[House Hearing, 119 Congress]
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                           COMMITTEE ON HOUSE
                             ADMINISTRATION

                        HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                            JANUARY 23, 2025

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                   COMMITTEE ON HOUSE ADMINISTRATION

                    BRYAN STEIL, Wisconsin, Chairman

BARRY LOUDERMILK, Georgia            JOSEPH MORELLE, New York,
H. MORGAN GRIFFITH, Virginia              Ranking Member
GREG MURPHY, North Carolina          TERRI A. SEWELL, Alabama
STEPHANIE BICE, Oklahoma             NORMA TORRES, California
MARY MILLER, Illinois                JULIE JOHNSON, Texas
MIKE CAREY, Ohio
LAUREL LEE, Florida

                      Mike Platt,  Staff Director 
                 Jamie Fleet,  Minority Staff Director 
                 
                 
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                           Opening Statements

Chairman Bryan Steil, Representative from the State of Wisconsin.     1
    Prepared statement of Chairman Bryan Steil...................     2
Ranking Member Joseph Morelle, Representative from the State of 
  New York.......................................................     3
    Prepared statement of Ranking Member Joseph Morelle..........     5

                       Submissions for the Record

Committee Resolution 119-1.......................................     7
Committee Resolution 119-2.......................................    30
Committee Resolution 119-3.......................................    32
Committee Resolution 119-4.......................................    33
Committee Resolution 119-5.......................................    40
Committee Resolution 119-6.......................................    42
Committee Resolution 119-7.......................................    43
Committee Resolution 119-8.......................................    54
Vice Chair letter................................................    57
Clerk letter.....................................................    58

 
                         ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING

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                            January 23, 2025

                 Committee on House Administration,
                                  House of Representatives,
                                                   Washington, D.C.
    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:05 a.m., in 
room 1310, Longworth House Office Building, Hon. Bryan Steil 
[Chairman of the Committee] presiding.
    Present: Representatives Steil, Loudermilk, Griffith, 
Murphy, Miller, Lee, Morelle, Sewell, and Johnson.
    Staff present: March Bell, General Counsel; Annemarie Cake, 
Professional Staff and Deputy Clerk; Rachel Collins, Deputy 
General Counsel and Parliamentarian; Kristen Monterroso, 
Director of Operations and Legislative Clerk; Michael Platt, 
Staff Director; Jordan Wilson, Director of Member Services; 
Khalil Abboud, Minority Deputy Staff Director; Jamie Fleet, 
Minority Staff Director; Owen Reilly, Minority Professional 
Staff; Matt Schlesinger, Minority Senior Counsel; and Sean 
Wright, Minority Chief Counsel.

    OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. BRYAN STEIL, CHAIRMAN OF THE 
 COMMITTEE ON HOUSE ADMINISTRATION, A U.S. REPRESENTATIVE FROM 
                           WISCONSIN

    Chairman Steil. All right. The Committee on House 
Administration will come to order.
    I note that a quorum is present.
    Without objection, the chair is authorized to declare a 
recess at any time.
    Today I want to welcome all of you to the Committee on 
House Administration's organizational meeting for the 119th 
Congress. I would like to welcome back my friend and colleague, 
Ranking Member Mr. Morelle, and my Democratic colleagues. I am 
excited to continue to work with all of you.
    I also welcome back our Republican colleagues: Mr. Barry 
Loudermilk, Mr. Morgan Griffith, Congressman Greg Murphy, 
Congresswoman Stephanie Bice, Congressman Mike Carey, and 
Congresswoman Laura Lee. Thank you for all your hard work the 
past Congress and look forward to the hard work that is coming 
ahead during the next 2 years in the 119th.
    I would also like to welcome our new Members: Congresswoman 
Mary Miller of Illinois and Congresswoman Julie Johnson from 
Texas.
    Mrs. Miller from Illinois has been a friend and a strong 
supporter of commonsense election integrity measures that will 
strengthen our election laws and increase confidence in our 
elections.
    We are excited, Mrs. Miller, that you are able and willing 
to join our Committee. I look forward to your work in 
particular as it relates to election integrity during this 
Congress.
    Ms. Julie Johnson from Texas. We just had a conversation 
about the rivalry between the Texas and Dallas Cowboys and the 
Green Bay Packers. With today's weather, I am reminded, of 
course, of the 1967 Ice Bowl, which we both might be reminded 
that the Green Bay Packers defeated the Dallas Cowboys 21-17 on 
a frigid day. We look forward to your participation in the 
hearing as well.
    We welcome both of you to the Committee.
    The Committee on House Administration was incredibly 
productive last Congress, during the 118th Congress. We held 39 
full Committee and Subcommittee hearings last Congress on 
issues including legislative oversight, election integrity, 
legislative branch, modernization, artificial intelligence 
capabilities, and other topics.
    We passed the COCOA Act in a nonpartisan fashion and got it 
signed into law, ensuring congressional election observers are 
able to fairly and accurately observe elections across the 
country. I am proud of what we have been able to accomplish as 
a Committee; however, our work is far from over. We still have 
more we can do to strengthen our election integrity and 
increase Americans' confidence in our elections.
    We will continue working to make the legislative branch 
more cost effective and efficient. Most importantly, we will 
continue to enhance our campus security to ensure the Capitol 
is safe and accessible for all Americans.
    I look forward to working alongside my colleagues to ensure 
a successful and productive 119th Congress. As I said, our work 
is just beginning.
    I will now recognize the Ranking Member, Mr. Morelle, for 5 
minutes for the purpose of offering an opening statement.
    [The prepared statement of Chairman Steil follows:]

   PREPARED STATEMENT OF CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE ON HOUSE 
                   ADMINISTRATION BRYAN STEIL

    Today I want to welcome all of you to the Committee on 
House Administration's organizational meeting for the 119th 
Congress. I would like to welcome back my friend and colleague, 
Ranking Member Mr. Morelle, and my Democratic colleagues. I am 
excited to continue to work with all of you.
    I also welcome back our Republican colleagues: Mr. Barry 
Loudermilk, Mr. Morgan Griffith, Congressman Greg Murphy, 
Congresswoman Stephanie Bice, Congressman Mike Carey, and 
Congresswoman Laura Lee. Thank you for all your hard work the 
past Congress and look forward to the hard work that is coming 
ahead during the next 2 years in the 119th.
    I would also like to welcome our new Members: Congresswoman 
Mary Miller of Illinois and Congresswoman Julie Johnson from 
Texas.
    Mrs. Miller from Illinois has been a friend and a strong 
supporter of commonsense election integrity measures that will 
strengthen our election laws and increase confidence in our 
elections.
    We are excited, Mrs. Miller, that you are able and willing 
to join our Committee. I look forward to your work in 
particular as it relates to election integrity during this 
Congress.
    Ms. Julie Johnson from Texas. We just had a conversation 
about the rivalry between the Texas and Dallas Cowboys and the 
Green Bay Packers. With today's weather, I am reminded, of 
course, of the 1967 Ice Bowl, which we both might be reminded 
that the Green Bay Packers defeated the Dallas Cowboys 21-17 on 
a frigid day. We look forward to your participation in the 
hearing as well.
    We welcome both of you to the Committee.
    The Committee on House Administration was incredibly 
productive last Congress, during the 118th Congress. We held 39 
full Committee and Subcommittee hearings last Congress on 
issues including legislative oversight, election integrity, 
legislative branch, modernization, artificial intelligence 
capabilities, and other topics.
    We passed the COCOA Act in a nonpartisan fashion and got it 
signed into law, ensuring congressional election observers are 
able to fairly and accurately observe elections across the 
country. I am proud of what we have been able to accomplish as 
a Committee; however, our work is far from over. We still have 
more we can do to strengthen our election integrity and 
increase Americans' confidence in our elections.
    We will continue working to make the legislative branch 
more cost effective and efficient. Most importantly, we will 
continue to enhance our campus security to ensure the Capitol 
is safe and accessible for all Americans.
    I look forward to working alongside my colleagues to ensure 
a successful and productive 119th Congress. As I said, our work 
is just beginning.

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. JOSEPH MORELLE, RANKING MEMBER OF THE 
 COMMITTEE ON HOUSE ADMINISTRATION, A U.S. REPRESENTATIVE FROM 
                            NEW YORK

    Mr. Morelle. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    First, congratulations on your reappointment as chair of 
the House Administration Committee. I am grateful to you for 
all your work. Thanks for calling this meeting so we can 
formally begin the process and the important work of this 
Committee.
    Today we will consider a--I am not sure if it is a number 
of or if we combine them all under a single resolution--but I 
know that are critical to the operation of the House. I guess 
we are going to take them all up perhaps as one vote, all the 
resolutions.
    Before we get to that, I want to officially thank and 
welcome all of my colleagues back to the Committee.
    Mrs. Miller, welcome, and it is great to have you join us.
    Mrs. Miller. Thank you.
    Mr. Morelle. I do want to also acknowledge Representative 
Terri Sewell and Representative Norma Torres, are two Members 
who have served in the past. Ms. Sewell, of course, from 
Alabama, and Mrs. Torres from California, whose sadly, I think, 
as Mrs. Bice is at the Appropriations Committee but is excited 
to continue. I want to make sure that we particularly keep our 
thoughts and prayers for the people in California where Mrs. 
Torres represents.
    As Subcommittee leaders on our side, both Ms. Sewell and 
Torres served this Committee with integrity and distinction 
last Congress, and I look forward to working with both of them.
    I also want to welcome on our side today a fellow former 
State legislator, Ms. Johnson, who served in the State House in 
Texas, and welcome her both to the House of Representatives and 
certainly to our Committee. I think it is rare on our side that 
a first-term Member gets appointed to a leadership Committee, 
but I think it speaks to Julie's experience and judgment that 
Leader Jeffries has asked her to serve with us so early in her 
tenure.
    The 118th Congress was productive for this Committee, and I 
thank you Mr. Chairman for that. While we had our 
disagreements, some more entrenched perhaps than others, we 
also delivered bipartisan wins for the House and for the 
American people. I am eager to continue that fruitful 
relationship in the 119th Congress as we tackle the diverse 
range of issues we are charged with overseeing.
    Through the Committee's jurisdiction over the 
administration, all Federal elections, we have a solemn duty to 
preserve, protect, and defend the sanctity of American 
democracy, and we must ensure that every American is able to 
cast a free and fair ballot. Our Nation does well only when 
everyone participates but will falter if we elevate the 
wealthy, the well-off, and the well-connected above our 
friends, neighbors, and the countless working Americans that 
have made this country a shining city on a hill.
    It is also incumbent upon all of us to ensure the House is 
a safe and inclusive place to work for Members and staff. While 
we have made considerable strides to this end in recent 
Congresses, as evident in the workplace rights resolution we 
will consider today, we must still actively work to preserve 
and/or expand on those achievements. The sanctity of this 
institution is among our most critical missions, and I know we 
all take that very, very seriously.
    To that end, again, I invite the majority to work with us 
on bipartisan oversight of the Capitol Police, Capitol Complex, 
security, and the safety of Members and staff. To a certain 
extent we were certainly able to do that at the full Committee 
level during the 118th Congress. I am grateful to Chairman 
Steil and the full Committee staff for their partnership in 
these efforts.
    This is especially important, given President Trump's most 
recent actions freeing violent felons who assaulted police 
officers in our Capitol, allowing them into these halls back, 
and sending them back into our districts. I urge the Committee 
in the strongest terms to take immediate action to address this 
new threat as it is happening.
    It is my hope that the 119th Congress we can spend 
meaningful time ensuring the mental health, wellness, and 
morale of the Capitol Police, including continued development 
of the Howie Liebengood Center for Wellness, and addressing 
systemic deficiencies in a force such as officer training and 
recruitment, which I know they continue to struggle with.
    We are also not just responsible for the physical security, 
but also cyber defenses as well. As the use and advancement of 
artificial intelligence expands dramatically, we must be 
prudent and thoughtful in its use in the legislative branch. 
Throughout the 118th Congress, this Committee--again, thank 
you, Mr. Chairman, for that, we worked in a bipartisan manner 
to advance the implementation of AI technology.
    I am committed to continuing this effort, striving for a 
more efficient and effective House, expanding the renewed focus 
on responsibly expanding the use of AI across Member offices, 
Committees, and institutional partners. Our policies must 
adequately protect sensitive data to fortify the House network 
and ensure staff are trained in the potential dangers of the 
AI. We also serve as guardians of the historical record.
    We have much work to do. It is my hope that we can build on 
the bipartisan groundwork we laid last Congress and keep the 
best interest of our constituents and institution at the 
forefront of our efforts.
    Again, let me thank you, Mr. Chairman, and your great staff 
for the bipartisan work and the cooperation. We look forward to 
that again.
    I just note as a historical note. I was actually alive in 
1967 and watched the game on television. I do not believe you 
were actually on the planet yet. We were certainly 
anticipating--we were anticipating your arrival. I actually 
watched the game. I remember it well.
    With that, I will yield back.
    [The prepared statement of Ranking Member Morelle follows:]

PREPARED STATEMENT OF RANKING MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ON HOUSE 
                 ADMINISTRATION JOSEPH MORELLE

    First, congratulations on your reappointment as chair of 
the House Administration Committee. I am grateful to you for 
all your work. Thanks for calling this meeting so we can 
formally begin the process and the important work of this 
Committee.
    Today we will consider a--I am not sure if it is a number 
of or if we combine them all under a single resolution--but I 
know that are critical to the operation of the House. I guess 
we are going to take them all up perhaps as one vote, all the 
resolutions.
    Before we get to that, I want to officially thank and 
welcome all of my colleagues back to the Committee.
    Mrs. Miller, welcome, and it is great to have you join us.
    I do want to also acknowledge Representative Terri Sewell 
and Representative Norma Torres, are two Members who have 
served in the past. Ms. Sewell, of course, from Alabama, and 
Mrs. Torres from California, whose sadly, I think, as Mrs. Bice 
is at the Appropriations Committee but is excited to continue. 
I want to make sure that we particularly keep our thoughts and 
prayers for the people in California where Mrs. Torres 
represents.
    As Subcommittee leaders on our side, both Ms. Sewell and 
Torres served this Committee with integrity and distinction 
last Congress, and I look forward to working with both of them.
    I also want to welcome on our side today a fellow former 
State legislator, Ms. Johnson, who served in the State House in 
Texas, and welcome her both to the House of Representatives and 
certainly to our Committee. I think it is rare on our side that 
a first-term Member gets appointed to a leadership Committee, 
but I think it speaks to Julie's experience and judgment that 
Leader Jeffries has asked her to serve with us so early in her 
tenure.
    The 118th Congress was productive for this Committee, and I 
thank you Mr. Chairman for that. While we had our 
disagreements, some more entrenched perhaps than others, we 
also delivered bipartisan wins for the House and for the 
American people. I am eager to continue that fruitful 
relationship in the 119th Congress as we tackle the diverse 
range of issues we are charged with overseeing.
    Through the Committee's jurisdiction over the 
administration, all Federal elections, we have a solemn duty to 
preserve, protect, and defend the sanctity of American 
democracy, and we must ensure that every American is able to 
cast a free and fair ballot. Our Nation does well only when 
everyone participates but will falter if we elevate the 
wealthy, the well-off, and the well-connected above our 
friends, neighbors, and the countless working Americans that 
have made this country a shining city on a hill.
    It is also incumbent upon all of us to ensure the House is 
a safe and inclusive place to work for Members and staff. While 
we have made considerable strides to this end in recent 
Congresses, as evident in the workplace rights resolution we 
will consider today, we must still actively work to preserve 
and/or expand on those achievements. The sanctity of this 
institution is among our most critical missions, and I know we 
all take that very, very seriously.
    To that end, again, I invite the majority to work with us 
on bipartisan oversight of the Capitol Police, Capitol Complex, 
security, and the safety of Members and staff. To a certain 
extent we were certainly able to do that at the full Committee 
level during the 118th Congress. I am grateful to Chairman 
Steil and the full Committee staff for their partnership in 
these efforts.
    This is especially important, given President Trump's most 
recent actions freeing violent felons who assaulted police 
officers in our Capitol, allowing them into these halls back, 
and sending them back into our districts. I urge the Committee 
in the strongest terms to take immediate action to address this 
new threat as it is happening.
    It is my hope that the 119th Congress we can spend 
meaningful time ensuring the mental health, wellness, and 
morale of the Capitol Police, including continued development 
of the Howie Liebengood Center for Wellness, and addressing 
systemic deficiencies in a force such as officer training and 
recruitment, which I know they continue to struggle with.
    We are also not just responsible for the physical security, 
but also cyber defenses as well. As the use and advancement of 
artificial intelligence expands dramatically, we must be 
prudent and thoughtful in its use in the legislative branch. 
Throughout the 118th Congress, this Committee--again, thank 
you, Mr. Chairman, for that, we worked in a bipartisan manner 
to advance the implementation of AI technology.
    I am committed to continuing this effort, striving for a 
more efficient and effective House, expanding the renewed focus 
on responsibly expanding the use of AI across Member offices, 
Committees, and institutional partners. Our policies must 
adequately protect sensitive data to fortify the House network 
and ensure staff are trained in the potential dangers of the 
AI. We also serve as guardians of the historical record.
    We have much work to do. It is my hope that we can build on 
the bipartisan groundwork we laid last Congress and keep the 
best interest of our constituents and institution at the 
forefront of our efforts.
    Again, let me thank you, Mr. Chairman, and your great staff 
for the bipartisan work and the cooperation. We look forward to 
that again.
    I just note as a historical note. I was actually alive in 
1967 and watched the game on television. I do not believe you 
were actually on the planet yet. We were certainly 
anticipating--we were anticipating your arrival. I actually 
watched the game. I remember it well.

    Chairman Steil. The gentleman yields back. I have watched 
the game, but I did not watch it live. That was inaccurate.
    I am willing to yield to the gentlelady, Ms. Johnson.
    Ms. Johnson. Mr. Chairman, just let the record reflect that 
I would hope that Ranking Member Morelle would be on the Cowboy 
side of this. I am the Democrat----
    Mr. Morelle. I am a Browns fan. That is the worst of all 
things.
    Ms. Johnson. I will just put that out there. Thank you so 
much for welcoming me so nicely to the Committee.
    Chairman Steil. Thank you.
    Mr. Griffith. Mr. Chairman, if I might?
    Chairman Steil. I will yield to my colleague, Mr. Griffith.
    Mr. Griffith. It is about the Ice Bowl, Mr. Chairman. I 
happened to represent Carroll Dale, who was from Wise County, 
was on the 1967 Packers team, was there. He came home to coach 
football at UVA Wise, and he is now retired. The football 
stadium at his high school is named for him. He was a big part 
of the Packers organization in the sixties.
    Chairman Steil. The chair will yield to anyone else who 
would like to say a positive statement about the Green Bay 
Packers. I am not sure Mrs. Miller can do that being from 
Illinois, but we will put you on the spot.
    No. In a serious sense, back to our business. I will now 
call up Committee Resolution 119-1 through 119-8 to be 
considered en bloc.
    Committee Resolution 119-1 is the rules of the Committee on 
House Administration for the 119th Congress.
    [Committee Resolution 119-1 follows:]
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    Committee Resolution 119-2 appoints the majority Members to 
the Subcommittees.
    [Committee Resolution 119-2 follows:]

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    Rep. Laurel Lee will serve as chair of the Subcommittee on 
Elections. Rep. Stephanie Bice will serve as the chair of the 
Subcommittee on Modernization and Innovation.
    Committee Resolution 119-3 appoints the minority Members to 
the Subcommittee. Rep. Terri Sewell will serve as the Ranking 
Member of the Subcommittee on Elections. Rep. Norma Torres will 
serve as the Ranking Member on the Subcommittee on 
Modernization and Innovation.
    [Committee Resolution 119-3 follows:]
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    Committee Resolution 119-4 adopts the parking policy for 
the 119th Congress.
    [Committee Resolution 119-4 follows:]

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    Committee Resolution 119-5 promulgates regulations 
regarding mandatory anti-harassment and anti-discrimination 
policies for House offices.
    [Committee Resolution 119-5 follows:]

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    Committee Resolution 119-6 promulgates regulations 
regarding displaying a statement of rights and protections 
provided to House employees.
    [Committee Resolution 119-6 follows:]

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    Committee Resolution 119-7 implements the House Retention 
through Education Advancement Program known as REAP.
    [Committee Resolution 119-7 follows:]

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    Committee Resolution 119-8 amends the Eligible 
Congressional Member Organizational Handbook.
    [Committee Resolution 119-8 follows:]

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    I will now recognize Ranking Member, Mr. Morelle, if he 
would like to give a statement on these resolutions.
    Mr. Morelle. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I largely support the resolutions contained within the en 
bloc package as drafted, and I will urge my colleagues on our 
side to do the same. I would like to spend just a few moments 
talking about some procedural protections I would like the 
Committee to consider as we move forward in the 119th Congress.
    Protection of the rights of the minority, regardless of 
which party holds the gavel, has been a fundamental principle 
in the House since its inception. Robust, informed debate not 
only makes for good policy, but it makes for a better overall 
Committee.
    To that end, I would respectfully ask that the Committee 
endeavor to enforce requirements for the advance submission of 
majority witness testimony to allow for better development of 
Member questions. Too often last Congress witnesses failed to 
submit their written testimony in a timely manner, sometimes 
not submitting at all, which really hindered our preparation 
and making for a less informed hearing and thus a deficient 
Committee record.
    I would just encourage that our staffs on both sides work 
tirelessly on these proceedings, and delayed testimony only 
makes it harder for them to do their jobs.
    Second, it has long been the tradition of the Committee to 
require a majority vote of the Committee's Members to authorize 
the issuance of a subpoena. The reasons for that are simple. 
Congress' power to compel is mighty and must be used 
judiciously, and after debate, requiring bipartisan 
consideration achieves that end.
    I ask you to use your discretion as chair to consult with 
me as the Ranking Member prior to issuing any subpoenas as much 
as possible--obviously, it is not always possible, but--and to 
provide us a reasonable amount of notice to the Committee's 
minority prior to the issuance of any of those subpoenas. The 
amount of suggestions is consistent with I think not only the 
Committee's precedent, but also the manner in which you have 
conducted this, which is in a bipartisan fashion. I think they 
would serve as well as we begin our work here.
    With that, I support the resolutions. I welcome our Ranking 
Members on the Subcommittee, Ms. Sewell. Ms. Johnson will serve 
on that Subcommittee as well on Elections. Mrs. Torres and I 
will serve as Members on Modernization and Innovation. I do 
again support these resolutions, considered en bloc, and I urge 
my colleagues to do the same.
    With that, I yield back.
    Chairman Steil. The gentleman yields back. I appreciate the 
comments, and we will continue to work to improve operations on 
the Committee.
    The clerk will please report the resolutions.
    The Clerk. Committee Resolution 119----
    Chairman Steil. Without objection, the reading of the 
resolution is suspended with. Also, without objection, the 
resolution shall be considered as read and open to amendment at 
any point.
    Does any Member seek recognition?
    I now ask unanimous consent that these resolutions be 
considered en bloc.
    Hearing no objection, the Committee will consider the 
resolution en bloc, and the question now occurs on the 
resolution.
    All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
    All those opposed, no.
    In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, and the 
resolutions are agreed to.
    Without objection, a motion to reconsider is laid upon the 
table.
    According to rule 1(p), I appoint Rep. Laurel Lee as vice 
chair of the full Committee.
    [Vice Chair letter follows:]
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    In accordance with rule 14(b) of the rules of the 
Committee, I now appoint Kristen Monterroso as the clerk.
    [Clerk letter follows:]

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    I request unanimous consent that the two letters stating 
the appointments of the clerk and vice chair be entered into 
the record. A copy of these letters will be made available to 
all Committee Members.
    This concludes all the matters before the Committee, unless 
any Members have any comments.
    Without objection, the staff is authorized to make 
necessary technical and conforming changes.
    If there is no further business, I want to thank the 
Members for their participation.
    Without objection, the Committee on House Administration 
stands adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 10:20 a.m., the Committee was adjourned.]

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