[House Hearing, 116 Congress] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] THE STATE OF COMPETITION IN THE WIRELESS MARKET: EXAMINING THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED MERGER OF T-MOBILE AND SPRINT ON CONSUMERS, WORKERS, AND THE INTERNET ======================================================================= HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON ANTITRUST, COMMERCIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED SIXTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION ---------- TUESDAY, MARCH 12, 2019 ---------- Serial No. 116-10 ---------- Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary [GRAPHIC NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Available via: http://judiciary.house.gov __________ U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 44-492 PDF WASHINGTON : 2021 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY JERROLD NADLER, New York, Chair MARY GAY SCANLON, Pennsylvania, Vice-Chair ZOE LOFGREN, California DOUG COLLINS, Georgia, Ranking SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas Member STEVE COHEN, Tennessee F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, Jr., HENRY C. ``HANK'' JOHNSON, Jr., Wisconsin Georgia STEVE CHABOT, Ohio THEODORE E. DEUTCH, Florida LOUIE GOHMERT, Texas KAREN BASS, California JIM JORDAN, Ohio CEDRIC L. RICHMOND, Louisiana KEN BUCK, Colorado HAKEEM S. JEFFRIES, New York JOHN RATCLIFFE, Texas DAVID N. CICILLINE, Rhode Island MARTHA ROBY, Alabama ERIC SWALWELL, California MATT GAETZ, Florida TED LIEU, California MIKE JOHNSON, Louisiana JAMIE RASKIN, Maryland ANDY BIGGS, Arizona PRAMILA JAYAPAL, Washington TOM McCLINTOCK, California VAL BUTLER DEMINGS, Florida DEBBIE LESKO, Arizona J. LUIS CORREA, California GUY RESCHENTHALER, Pennsylvania SYLVIA R. GARCIA, Texas BEN CLINE, Virginia JOE NEGUSE, Colorado KELLY ARMSTRONG, North Dakota LUCY McBATH, Georgia W. GREGORY STEUBE, Florida GREG STANTON, Arizona MADELEINE DEAN, Pennsylvania DEBBIE MUCARSEL-POWELL, Florida VERONICA ESCOBAR, Texas PERRY APELBAUM, Majority Staff Director & Chief Counsel BRENDAN BELAIR, Minority Staff Director ------ SUBCOMMITTEE ON ANTITRUST, COMMERCIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW DAVID N. CICILLINE, Rhode Island, Chair JOE NEGUSE, Colorado, Vice-Chair HENRY C. ``HANK'' JOHNSON, Jr., F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, Jr., Georgia Wisconsin, Ranking Member JAMIE RASKIN, Maryland MATT GAETZ, Florida PRAMILA JAYAPAL, Washington KEN BUCK, Colorado VAL BUTLER DEMINGS, Florida KELLY ARMSTRONG, North Dakota MARY GAY SCANLON, Pennsylvania W. GREGORY STEUBE, Florida LUCY McBATH, Georgia SLADE BOND, Chief Counsel DANIEL FLORES, Minority Counsel C O N T E N T S ---------- Tuesday, March 12, 2019 Page OPENING STATEMENTS The Honorable David Cicilline, a Member of Congress from the State of Rhode Island, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law.............................. 1 The Honorable James Sensenbrenner, a Member of Congress from the State of Wisconsin, Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law................... 4 The Honorable Jerrold Nadler, Chair of the Committee on the Judiciary from the State of New York........................... 5 WITNESSES John Legere, Chief Executive Officer, T-Mobile Oral Testimony................................................. 12 Prepared Testimony............................................. 14 Marcelo Claure, Executive Chair, Sprint Oral Testimony................................................. 22 Prepared Testimony............................................. 24 Chris Shelton, President, Communications Workers of America Oral Testimony................................................. 29 Prepared Testimony............................................. 31 Gigi Sohn, Distinguished Fellow, Georgetown University Law Center Oral Testimony................................................. 144 Prepared Testimony............................................. 145 Carmen Scurato, Senior Policy Counsel, Free Press Oral Testimony................................................. 152 Prepared Testimony............................................. 154 Carri Bennet, General Counsel, Rural Wireless Association Oral Testimony................................................. 209 Prepared Testimony............................................. 210 Scott Wallsten, President and Senior Fellow, Technology Policy Institute Oral Testimony................................................. 215 Prepared Testimony............................................. 218 Christopher S. Yoo, John H. Chestnut Professor of Law, University of Pennsylvania Law School Oral Testimony................................................. 241 Prepared Testimony............................................. 242 LETTERS, STATEMENTS, ETC., SUBMITTED FOR THE HEARING Statement from the Honorable Doug Collins, Ranking Member of the Committee on the Judiciary from the State of Georgia submitted by The Honorable James Sensenbrenner, Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Wisconsin for the record..................... 10 Correspondence from The Honorable Pramila Jayapal and Elizabeth Warren to John Legere submitted by the Honorable Pramila Jayapal, a Member of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Washington for the record......................................................... 252 An article entitled ``Huawei Connects Rural America: Could It Threaten the Country's Most Sensitive Military Secrets from CNN,'' submitted by the Honorable Matt Gaetz, a Member of the Subcommittee on the Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Florida for the record................... 262 A letter from Frank DiRico, CEO, Viaro Wireless submitted by the Honorable Ken Buck, a Member of the Subcommittee on the Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Colorado for the record........................................ 274 A letter from Colorado Cellular, Inc., submitted by the Honorable Matt Gaetz, a Member of the Subcommittee on the Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Florida for the record..................................................... 282 A letter from David Erikson, CEO, freeconferencecall.com submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record.................. 300 Statement from George Slover, Senior Policy Counsel, Consumer Reports, and Jonathan Schwantes, Senior Policy Counsel, Consumer Reports, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record......................................................... 303 A letter from a coalition of organizations in support of the proposed merger of Sprint and T-Mobile, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record.................................... 312 Statement from David A. Little, Executive Director, Rural Schools Association of New York State, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record......................................................... 315 Statement from Corrina Freedman, Political and Legislative Director, Writers Guild of America West, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record.................................... 318 Statement from Tony Vargas, State Senator, Nebraska, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record.................................... 320 Statement from Richard M. Manning, President, Americans for Limited Government, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record......................................................... 322 Statement from Grover Norquist, President, Americans for Tax Reform, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record.............. 324 Statement from Julian Canete, President & CEO, California Hispanic Chambers of Commerce, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record......................................................... 326 Letter from the California Hispanic Chambers of Commerce to the Federal Trade Commission regarding the proposed merger of T- Mobile and Sprint, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record......................................................... 327 Statement from Kent Lassman, Competitive Enterprise Institute, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record.................. 329 Statement from Pat Fong Kushida, President & CEO, California Asian Pacific Chamber of Commerce, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record.......................................... 333 Statement from Chip Pickering, CEO, INCOMPAS, submitted by the Honorable David Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record.................................... 335 APPENDIX An article entitled ``Enabling opportunities: 5G, the internet of things, and communities of color,'' Brookings, submitted by the Honorable Hank Johnson, a Member of the Subcommittee on the Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law for the State of Georgia for the record......................................... 340 QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FOR THE RECORD Questions for John Legere submitted by the Honorable Ted Lieu, a member of the Committee on the Judiciary from the State of California for the record...................................... 368 Responses to Questions from John Legere submitted by the Honorable Ted Lieu, a member of the Committee on the Judiciary from the State of California for the record.................... 369 Responses to Questions from John Legere submitted by the Honorable James Sensenbrenner, Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Wisconsin.................................... 370 Responses to Questions from John Legere submitted by the Honorable David N. Cicilline, Chair of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Rhode Island for the record.................................... 373 Responses to Questions from John Legere submitted by the Honorable Ted Lieu, a member of the Committee on the Judiciary from the State of California for the record.................... 372 Responses to Questions from Carri Bennet submitted by the Honorable Matt Gaetz, a Member of the Subcommittee on the Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Florida and James Sensenbrenner, Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law from the State of Wisconsin for the record..................... 373 THE STATE OF COMPETITION IN THE WIRELESS MARKET: EXAMINING THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED MERGER OF T-MOBILE AND SPRINT ON CONSUMERS, WORKERS, AND THE INTERNET ---------- Wednesday, March 12, 2019 House of Representatives Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law Committee on the Judiciary Washington, DC The Subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 2:00 p.m., in Room 2141, Rayburn Office Building, Hon. David Cicilline [chairman of the subcommittee] presiding. Present: Representatives Cicilline, Johnson of Georgia, Raskin, Jayapal, Demings, Scanlon, Neguse, McBath, Sensenbrenner, Nadler, Gaetz, Buck, and Armstrong. Staff Present: David Greengrass, Counsel; Lisette Morton, Director, Policy Planning, and Member Services; Madeline Strasser, Chief Clerk; Moh Sharma, Member Services and Outreach Member; Susan Jensen, Parliamentarian/Senior Counsel; Amanda Lewis, Counsel; Joseph Van Wye, Professional Staff Member; Slade Bond, Chief Counsel; Lina Khan, Counsel; Daniel Flores, Minority Chief Counsel and Andrea Woodard, Minority Professional Staff. Mr. Cicilline. The Subcommittee will come to order. Without objection, the Chair is authorized to declare recesses of the Committee at any time. We welcome everyone to today's hearing on the State of Competition in the Wireless Market: Examining Impact of the Proposed Merger of T-Mobile and Sprint on Consumers, Workers, and the Internet. Mr. Cicilline. I now recognize myself for an opening statement. Today's hearing is an important opportunity to examine the State of competition in the wireless industry and the competitive effects of the proposed merger of T-Mobile and Sprint. Over the past century, the telecommunications industry in the United States has demonstrated the harms that result from monopoly power. By 1948, AT&T's dominance was so entrenched that it was widely considered to be a lawful monopoly. Over the next 40 years, it grew to become the largest corporation in the world, controlling more than 80 percent of the market. It earned more than $53 billion in annual revenue and was the second largest employer in the United States, behind only the Federal Government. In 1982, the Justice Department successfully concluded its landmark anti-monopoly case against AT&T for blocking competition in the telephone service and equipment market. As a result, the Bell System was broken into separate telephone companies while AT&T's long-distance services were structured separately from its device manufacturing services. The importance of the breakup of the Bell System cannot be overstated. It facilitated an explosion of competition in long distance markets, significantly lower prices for consumers, improved products, and services, and spurred the creation of new jobs. Perhaps most importantly for the purposes of today's hearing, the competitive pressure resulting from robust enforcement also led to the deployment of fiber optic across the country, particularly much of the Internet's infrastructure. Anne Bingaman, the Assistant Attorney General of the Antitrust Division, testified before the Subcommittee in 1994 that AT&T had copper wires across the country until competition entered that market, and when it did, Sprint and MCI laid fiber optic coast to coast and AT&T, spurred by competition, followed them. She noted then that there was no question that the speed of building the infrastructure for nationwide internet was years and years ahead of where it would have been in the absence of the breakup of AT&T. When coupled with some of the pro-competitive reforms in the Telecommunications Act of 1996, such as phone number portability, consumers and small businesses saved billions of dollars each year while maverick competitors were incentivized to enter the market to offer better services and more choice. Due largely to a retreat from aggressive antitrust enforcement over the past several decades, there are only four national carriers today. The proposed merger of T-Mobile and Sprint would shrink this market to just three national wireless carriers, resulting in the combined company controlling nearly a third of the wireless market. The merging parties claim that the transaction is necessary to deploy the next generation of broadband internet across the country and to compete more vigorously with the two largest carriers, AT&T and Verizon. To their credit, both Sprint and T-Mobile have aggressively competed with the larger carriers over the past decade, resulting in lower prices and better policies for consumers. But, I am deeply skeptical that consolidation is the path forward to lowering prices, increasing opportunity, or unleashing competition in places around the country where there is none today. First, the competition that has been driven by Sprint and T-Mobile over the past decade has occurred in the absence of consolidation, not because of it. Second, nearly a century of experience with telephone monopolies has taught us that the pressure of competition is critical to building out the nation's internet infrastructure and improving quality for consumers. Finally, there is mounting evidence that additional consolidation in this market would likely give the combined company the incentive and ability to raise prices, lower wages, and abandon the policies that have benefited consumers over the past decade. Under both longstanding Supreme Court precedent and the horizontal merger guidelines, mergers that significantly increase concentration in highly concentrated markets are presumed to be illegal. It is beyond dispute that this transaction will significantly increase concentration in the wireless market far beyond the level that the antitrust agencies consider to be likely to enhance market power, and because of this reality, the only thing preventing the merging parties from raising prices, lowering quality, and depressing wages are promises for a limited period of time. Today's hearing is also an opportunity to examine concerns related to the current State of merger enforcement. It has been nearly a year since the Federal Trade Commission last challenged a merger in court, and since the beginning of the Trump Administration the Justice Department's Antitrust Division has only challenged one significant merger, AT&T's acquisition of Time-Warner. Not only did the Antitrust Division lose this challenge, but this case has been mired in controversy from day one due to the President's shameful attempts to interfere in antitrust enforcement. Last week, Jane Mayer of The New Yorker reported that the President instructed senior White House officials to, and I quote, ``get this lawsuit filed'' against the AT&T and Time- Warner merger following a series of reports suggesting that the President seeks to wield the antitrust laws as a political weapon to reward friends and punish perceived enemies. In response to this explosive report, Chair Nadler and I are seeking the production of every communication and document related to this case. We must get to the bottom of whether the White House has weaponized our antitrust laws to punish enemies or reward friends, and we will. Most importantly for the purposes of today's hearing, the proposed merger of T-Mobile and Sprint is really a critical test. Is the Antitrust Division genuinely dedicated to promoting competition or does it only oppose mergers when the White House tells it to do so? Finally, this proposed merger does not occur in a vacuum. Working families across the country are struggling to make ends meet. Parents lie awake at night wondering how they will be able to afford their child's insulin. People work double and triple shifts just to afford their health insurance deductibles and co-pays for prescription drugs, and for too many families having as much as an extra $50 in the bank can be the difference between scraping by to the next paycheck or having the heat turned off in the middle of a cold winter. Decades of consolidation throughout the economy have wiped out countless small businesses and hollowed out the middle class, resulting in record levels of inequality that have undermined social mobility in our country significantly. During this period, corporations have converted monopoly rents into higher compensation for executives, and in the process, driven down wages and made life unaffordable for many people. As Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz has warned, and I quote, ``We have become a rent-seeking society, dominated by market power of large corporations, unchecked by countervailing powers, and the power of workers has been weakened, if not eviscerated.'' It is every stagnant paycheck, every surprise medical bill, every overpriced and overcrowded flight with hidden fees, every trip to the hospital where patients are forced to wait for hours and risk personal bankruptcy to receive medical care, and every astronomical telephone and cable bill that is accompanied by a forced arbitration clause and horrible customer service. These are all reminders that America's monopoly problem has fundamentally broken our economy and destroyed the American dream. We read stories of billionaires buying yachts that are furnished like palaces and as large as some elementary schools while the brave men and women in uniform who fought for our country do not have access to affordable healthcare. This economic nightmare is exactly why Democrats promised Americans that we would crack down on corporate monopolies through a better deal on competition. Ending this moral crisis is a top priority for me as Chair of the Antitrust Subcommittee and a top priority for House Democrats to keep our promise to work for the people, to prevent big mergers that would harm consumers, workers, and competition. In closing, I thank our esteemed panel of witnesses for appearing before us today, and I very much look forward to all your testimony. I now have the privilege of recognizing the distinguished gentleman from Wisconsin, the Ranking Member, Mr. Sensenbrenner, for his opening statement. Mr. Sensenbrenner. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, and I welcome the witnesses to today's hearing, which will examine the Proposed T-Mobile-Sprint Merger and its Impact on the Market and Consumers. Let me say at the beginning that I am disappointed to hear Chair quote a partisan spin on this proposal even before we hear the testimony from the witnesses. You know, I certainly have not made up my mind on whether this proposed merger is in the public interest or not, this hearing will shed some light on it, but I do want to say that I don't think that antitrust questions should be partisan in nature whatsoever. I have been on this Committee for 40 years and there are very few of these proposals that the Committee has examined where Republicans and Democrats have been divided from the get- go. On March 29th, 2018, T-Mobile and Sprint announced a merger agreement that undoubtedly will change the telecommunications landscape. If approved, this $26.5 billion deal would combine the third and fourth largest wireless providers. While eliminating a competitor, the merger could put companies in a much stronger position to take on AT&T and Verizon, which have dominated the marketplace. If combined, T- Mobile and Sprint hope to improve service, innovate and expand their network into underserved and rural areas. I look forward to hearing from both CEOs on the implication of this merger as on the deployment of 5G. 5G is key to improving service with greater coverage, higher speeds, and increased added capacity. Ensuring that we are at the forefront of this technology will provide untold benefits to American consumers and the American economy and is important to many Members of the committee. We will hear today from witnesses who will outline a very different picture, one that paints this merger as negatively impacting low-income consumers and rural communities. Many wireless competitors and consumer advocates believe a more concentrated wireless industry will reduce competition, raise prices, and result in job losses. Under the Communications Act of 1934, the Federal Communications Commission is reviewing the merger to ensure that it promotes the public interest, convenience, and necessity. U.S. Department of Justice and State Attorneys General are also reviewing the transaction pursuant to their respective authorities. While Congress has no formal role in the DOJ or FTC's merger review process, hearings like this provide an opportunity to ask and debate questions of great importance to American consumers, and I look forward to the testimony of the witnesses and debate among Members of the committee, and in the end wise decisions by DOJ and the FTC that ensure competitive future for wireless communications in America. I yield back the remainder of my time. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner. The Chair now recognizes the Chair of the Full Committee, the gentleman from New York, Mr. Nadler, for his opening statement. Mr. Nadler. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate this opportunity to carefully consider the impact of the proposed merger of Sprint and T-Mobile on competition, consumers, and workers. While I do not prejudge the merits of any proposed merger, it is clear that this transaction, if approved by regulators, would usher in significant changes to the market for mobile wireless services. Given the fact that 95 percent of American adults own a cell phone and 20 percent use a mobile device as their primary means of accessing the internet, it is critical that we closely analyze any proposed merger with such a wide-ranging impact. As independent companies, Sprint and T-Mobile have each brought competitive and innovative products to market. These products have not only benefited their customers but have also benefited the customers of other wireless carriers whose own carriers have had to compete with both companies. For example, Sprint and T-Mobile's reintroduction of unlimited data plans in 2016 resulted in lower monthly bills and better internet access for millions of consumers. These companies have also provided important services, such as competitive prepaid mobile wireless plans, to some of our most underserved communities. These prepaid plans offer certain customers the ability to purchase wireless broadband and wireless cellular services without passing a credit check. I applaud both companies for their competitive efforts, for their ingenuity, and for serving consumers in every market. In considering their proposed merger, however, we must determine whether this proposed new combined company with the largest share of the marketplace would have less incentive to innovate and to compete with other companies. I am concerned about any merger that would significantly increase concentration in a market that is already highly concentrated. There are only four national wireless carriers today, AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint. As a result of this transaction, there would be only three, each of which would control about a third of the marketplace, thereby dramatically altering the competitive landscape. Consequently, the combined Sprint and T-Mobile may no longer have any market-based incentive to lower prices and to offer pro-consumer policies once it becomes as large as the other two carriers. This in turn could harm other carriers' customers who have indirectly benefited from Sprint and T- Mobile's competition over the past decade. Concerns have been raised about the merger's impact on low- income consumers who often must rely on cheaper prepaid phones for their wireless service. Because the proposed transaction would also consolidate the market for these services, it may have disproportionately negative effects on low-income households. This would be particularly harmful in major cities with large populations of middle- and low-income people, such as New York, which may experience even higher levels of concentration in the market for prepaid phones than in other regions. For their part, Sprint and T-Mobile offer a variety of justifications in support of this merger. They argue that the transaction would enable New T-Mobile, as the company would be called, to supercharge the market for wireless competition. Its increased scale, they argue, would lead to better quality of its network and would enable the development of innovative new products at dramatically faster speeds. Moreover, they believe that the merged company would be in a better position to compete with the other wireless giants and would push the other companies to offer better services to their customers. They also anticipate that the new company would expand its workforce and would invest up to $40 billion in the first three years after the merger. This may lead to the creation of more jobs, better policies for consumers, and new competition in the broadband marketplace, thanks to faster deployment of a nationwide Fifth Generation or 5G wireless network. These claimed benefits of the merger would be welcome developments for millions of employees and consumers. They should be viewed with healthy skepticism, however, in light of numerous mergers we have seen in recent years that have made economic promises that were ultimately not borne out. That is one reason why I introduced the Restoring and Improving Merger Enforcement Act, legislation designed to prohibit the consideration of spurious unverifiable economic efficiencies to justify anticompetitive mergers. Merging parties routinely justify anticompetitive mergers under the guise of corporate restructuring and other so-called efficiencies which are generally code words for widespread layoffs and reduced wages and benefits for employees. Rather than create more efficient markets, waves of consolidation throughout the economy over the past several decades have imperiled the financial security of American workers and consumers. As a result, employers have immense power to reduce the wages, benefits, and economic mobility of workers while consumers routinely pay higher prices for goods and services than they would in a more competitive economy. When combined with the precipitous decline of collective bargaining, this massive consolidation has shrunk the middle class and has increased income inequality through stagnant wages and less economic opportunity. Needless to say, I am pleased that State and federal regulators are closely scrutinizing this transaction to determine what impact it may have on consumers and employees, and I appreciate Chair Cicilline holding this hearing today so that Members of this Subcommittee may also examine the important questions the proposed merger raises. I look forward to hearing from our large panel of expert witnesses, including the CEOs of both Sprint and T-Mobile, and I thank them for their participation, in particular those who have rearranged their schedules on several occasions to accommodate congressional conflicts that have arisen. I yield back the balance of my time. Mr. Cicilline. I thank the gentleman. I now recognize the Ranking Member for unanimous consent. Mr. Sensenbrenner. Mr. Chair, I ask unanimous consent to put in the record the statement by the Ranking Member of the Full Committee, the gentleman from Georgia, Mr. Collins. Mr. Cicilline. Without objection. [The information follows:] MR. SENSENBRENNER FOR THE RECORD ======================================================================= STATEMENT OF DOUG COLLINS Thank you, Chairman Cicilline and Ranking Member Sensenbrenner for holding this hearing. This nation's communications infrastructure is of paramount importance. It helps to bind together America's families and communities, it's critical to our economy and it's vital to our national security. The proposed merger of T-Mobile and Sprint raises significant issues for the future of our communications system. America is rapidly continuing its shift to primary reliance on wireless and fiber-optic infrastructure for its communications needs, and T-Mobile and Sprint are two of just four nationwide wireless companies serving those needs. The proposed merger, moreover, comes precisely as markets in the U.S. and abroad begin the transition to the next wave of wireless technology--5G. Whether the merger, if approved, will help or hinder the fastest, strongest transition to 5G has far- reaching implications for families, students, small business owners, major companies and everyone beyond and in between. It is no understatement to say that the proposed merger has serious implications including whether the U.S. will continue to lead the world in communications innovation and the advanced goods and services that depend upon it. I expect the Department of Justice's Antitrust Division and the Federal Communications Commission to resolve with the fullest application of their expertise whether the proposed merger meets legal standards for approval. My concern at this hearing is that Congress help to elevate the profile of issues and explore for the benefit of American families what the future consequences of approval or disapproval would be. One area I greatly look forward to hearing about is the potential this merger could have to help fmprove communications across rural America, like in northeast Georgia. Of the four national carriers, including T-Mobile and Sprint none are serving rural districts like mine well enough. If the merger will not improve access, rural America will only suffer more. If it will improve access, then welcome relief may be on its way. Another question is whether Sprint will disappear no matter what happens with the merger. There are those who claim that, for financial reasons, Sprint will soon no longer be a viable national competitor. If that's true, the question could simply be whether we go from four to three national competitors because of the merger or because Sprint goes into bankruptcy. The question may even be whether we go from four to two, because eventually, if T-Mobile is left alone in competition with AT&T and Verizon, it too will ultimately go under. But there are also those who claim that Sprint will be financially viable going forward. They assert that, if Sprint remains independent, scores of regional competitors who rely on its market-leading support of roaming services will help to build out a 5G network even faster than the merged T-Mobile and Sprint could. They also claim that will be especially true in rural areas. For the benefit of my constituents, I want to hear everything I can today about the potential this merger has for positive or negative impact on rural communities. I commend the Subcommittee for holding this hearing on the proposed merger. I am also delighted that the Subcommittee is beginning this term of Congress with two consecutive antitrust hearings. Our antitrust jurisdiction is critical and I am eager to continue its reinvigoration this term. I look forward to each of the witnesses' testimonies and yield back the balance of my time. Mr. Cicilline. It is now my pleasure to introduce today's witnesses. Our first witness is John Legere, the Chief Executive Officer of T-Mobile. He has been named a Top CEO by Glassdoor and was granted the Maverick and Leadership Award by Yale's Chief Executive Leadership Institute. Before his time at T-Mobile, Mr. Legere served as CEO of both Global Crossing and Asia Global Crossing as well as Head of Global Corporate Strategy and Business Development at AT&T. Mr. Legere received a Bachelor's Degree in Business Administration from the University of Massachusetts, a Master's Degree in Science as an Alford P. Sloan Fellow at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and, additionally, he received his Master's of Business Administration degree from Fairleigh Dickinson University and completed Harvard Business School's Management Development Program. Our second witness is Marcelo Claure, the Executive Chair of the Board of Sprint Corporation. Previously, Mr. Claure served as Sprint's Chief Executive Officer. He is also currently the Chief Operating Officer at SoftBank Group and CEO of SoftBank Group International. Mr. Claure was named a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum as well as one of 42 individuals selected by the Carnegie Corporation as part of the Great Immigrants: The Pride of America Initiative. He received his B.S. in Finance from Bentley University. Our third witness is the President of the Communication Workers of America, Christopher Shelton. He has worked with CWA since 1968, when he was elected a shop steward while working for New York Telecom. A native of the Bronx, New York, Mr. Shelton joined CWA's National Staff in 1988 and has served in multiple positions representing locals throughout New York, New Jersey, and New England. Mr. Shelton was elected the President of CWA at their 75th Convention in 2015. The fourth witness on our panel is Gigi Sohn, a Distinguished Scholar with the Georgetown Law Institute for Technology, Law, and Policy, and a Benton Senior Fellow at Public Advocate. For 30 years, Ms. Sohn has worked to protect and promote competition policies that have made the Internet more open, competitive, and affordable. Ms. Sohn previously served as counsel to Tom Wheeler during his tenure as Chair of the Federal Communications Commission. She received her B.S. from Boston University and her JD from the University of Pennsylvania Law School. Our fifth witness is Carmen Scurato, Senior Policy Counsel with Free Press. Before working with Free Press, Ms. Scurato served as Vice President of Policy as well as General Counsel at the National Hispanic Media Coalition and as a Project Supervisor with the Office of Legislative Affairs at the Department of Justice. She received her B.A. from New York University and her JD from the Villanova University School of Law. Our sixth witness is Carrie Bennet, General Counsel at the Rural Wireless Association. Since 1987, she has represented primarily rural wireless carriers, telephone companies, and cellular carriers before the FCC, the courts, and in Congress. She is a member of both the Federal Communications Bar Association and the American Bar Association and has published numerous articles on wireless and rural communications issues. She received her B.A. from North Carolina State University and her JD from the Columbus School of Law at Catholic University. Scott Wallsten, the President and Senior Fellow at the Georgetown Technology Policy Institute, is our seventh witness. An economist with an expertise in industrial organization and public policy, his research focuses on competition, regulation, telecommunications, and technology policy. Mr. Wallsten is also a Senior Fellow at the Georgetown Center for Business and Public Policy. He received his B.A. in Economics from Washington University and his Ph.D. in Economics from Stanford University. Our final witness is Professor Christopher Yoo. Professor Yoo is a Director at the Center for Technology, Innovation, and Competition as well as the John Chestnut Professor of Law, Communication, and Computer and Information Science at the University of Pennsylvania Law School. His research focuses on administrative and regulatory law, especially in relation to technology, innovation, and the Internet. He has also taught at Vanderbilt University School of Law where he serves as the Founding Director of the Technology and Entertainment Law Program. Mr. Yoo received his A.B. from Harvard University and his J.D. from Northwestern University. We welcome all our incredibly distinguished witnesses and thank you for participating in today's hearing. Now if you would please rise, I will begin by swearing you in. Please raise your right hands. Do you swear or affirm under penalty of perjury that the testimony you are about to give is true and accurate to the best of your knowledge, information, and belief, so help you God? [A chorus of ayes.] Mr. Cicilline. Let the record show the witnesses answer in the affirmative. Thank you. You may be seated. Please note that each of your written statements will be entered in the record in its entirety. Accordingly, I ask that you summarize your testimony in five minutes. To help you stay within that time, there is a time light on your table. When the light switches from green to yellow, you have about a minute to conclude your testimony and when the light turns red, it signals that your five minutes have expired. So please keep that in mind. We will begin with Mr. Legere. TESTIMONY OF JOHN LEGERE Mr. Legere. Thank you, Chair Nadler, Chair Cicilline, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner, and other Members of the Subcommittee, for inviting Marcelo, me, and the rest of the panel here today. I appreciate the opportunity to tell you about the tremendous benefits of the proposed T-Mobile/Sprint merger and the progress we are making towards making it a reality. So, first, what will the merger deliver? It will deliver a super-charged un-carrier which can ensure U.S. leadership in 5G, increase competition, and create American jobs. First and foremost, the New T-Mobile will make sure America wins the global 5G race. This is so important because 5G will unlock new capabilities that will fuel innovation and job creation well beyond anything we have seen so far. 5G will completely transform the way Americans live, work, travel, and play. 5G means real-time navigation, downloading a movie in seconds, instant language translation, and much more. Nearly every American business will be able to use 5G to revolutionize how they create and deliver goods and services. Best of all, with this transaction, the benefits of 5G won't just flow to big cities. Combining Sprint and T-Mobile will produce a faster, broader, and deeper network that is truly nationwide. It will benefit consumers and businesses everywhere, including in rural America. Neither company could do this on its own. Second, the New T-Mobile will have the capital, scale, and network to super-charge competition, unleashing significant benefits for all consumers, including keeping prices low. The combined company will continue the T-Mobile tradition of disrupting the wireless space, and we will disrupt in-home broadband with the new wireless mobile and in-home broadband options, offering average download speeds of a hundred megabits or greater to 90 percent of the United States population by 2024 and, thus creating a new broadband option for millions of Americans who have none and freeing millions from the stranglehold of big cable. Budget-conscious customers use the most data, as many of them rely on their phones as their main point of access to the internet. That means they have the most to gain when data costs less. New T-Mobile will offer a much-needed new bridge across the digital divide. Our opponents are wrong when they claim the merger will lead to higher prices. In fact, the opposite is true. The massive increase in our network capacity and huge reductions in our costs to deliver our services will enable the New T-Mobile to win customers through lower prices and better services, and it is in my business plan to do just that. I am so confident that this merger will lower prices that we have committed in writing to the regulators that we will make available the same or better rate plans as those currently offered by T-Mobile and Sprint for the next three years. Third, this merger will be a tremendous jobs creator at New T-Mobile and across our country. Our merger will be jobs positive from day one and going forward. In the first year, we will have thousands more employees than the stand-alone companies combined. By 2024, we will have 11,000 more employees. Our critics are wrong about the impacts on jobs. I have looked at their arguments and supposed analysis and they do not make sense. They ignore the facts. They don't account for any areas where jobs will grow, like new customer experience centers, enterprise services, broadband and media, and network build and integration. We have heard this story before. They said we would cut 10,000 jobs when T-Mobile merged with Metro-PCS. In fact, we expanded jobs by tens of thousands. Let me say this to every T-Mobile and Sprint employee working at one of our stores today: Each of you will be offered a job with the New T-Mobile. Make no mistake. Opponents of the transaction are fear-mongering about job losses and price increases in a desperate effort to maintain the status quo. They know that blocking this transaction will only entrench the incumbent Big 2 wireless carriers and big cable, and that is their goal. Opponents and their backers are terrified of the competition that a super-charged un-carrier will bring. On the other hand, many have already recognized the tremendous benefits of this merger. CFIUS and Team Telecom have completed their national security review and approved the transaction. Sixteen of 19 State regulatory commissions have completed their reviews and found the transaction to be in the public interest, and over 200 organizations, companies, government officials, and community leaders publicly support the transaction. I am particularly honored that Congressman Eshoo, Congressman Long, and 11 other Members have signed a bipartisan letter of support. To those that doubt us, I would simply say this: We are the un-carrier. My management team and I believe in delivering on our promises, and we know if we do not, we will lose the credibility and trust of our customers and employees. I can promise to you the New T-Mobile will deliver for consumers, American workers, and for our country. Thank you, and I look forward to answering your questions. [The statement of Mr. Legere follows:] STATEMENT OF MR. LEGERE Introduction Thank you, Chairman Cicilline, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner, and Members of the Committee. My name is John Legere. I have been Chief Executive Officer of T-Mobile U.S., Inc. since September of 2012. Since becoming CEO almost seven years ago, I've been privileged to lead T- Mobile on its mission to fix a stupid, broken, arrogant industry and to redefine how the American consumer views and experiences ``wireless.'' As the ``Un-carrier,'' T-Mobile has worked to attract customers by fixing a wide range of their pain points while ultimately providing consumers better value for lower prices. If the merger is approved, I will proudly serve as the CEO of New T-Mobile. I appreciate the opportunity to be here today alongside Marcelo Claure of Sprint to discuss the proposed merger of our two companies. New T-Mobile will enable U.S. leadership in 5G, deliver significant value and benefits to consumers in all corners of the nation, increase competition in wireless and in- home broadband, and create American jobs. New T-Mobile will be able to leverage a unique combination of complementary assets to unlock massive synergies to build a world-leading 5G network that will deliver unprecedented services and value to all consumers, increasingly disrupt multiple industries, and enhance the American economy and national security. Our proposed merger with Sprint will provide New T-Mobile with the added scale and critical spectrum and network assets to supercharge our Un-carrier strategy. As a result, we can take competition to new levels. We will offer a much faster, broader, and deeper network and new services at lower prices than either T-Mobile or Sprint could achieve alone. This will force our rivals--AT&T, Verizon, and the cable monopolies--to improve their services, increase their own capacity, and lower prices even further. All American customers will win with lower prices and better services! When we build our world-class 5G network, we are not only going to benefit wireless customers, but also finally bring real competition for in-home broadband consumers, including rural customers, who are typically stuck with no choices for in-home broadband service today. We will bring new competition to Big Cable in two ways. Our 5G network gives us the speed and capacity to offer an affordable in-home high-speed broadband service to millions of American households. And with fiber-like speeds across our mobile network, many more Americans will be able to ``cut the cord'' entirely and eliminate a separate broadband charge--saving hundreds of dollars a year! The industry will have to respond, and prices will drop even more! Importantly, we will bring these benefits to parts of the United States that other larger wireless carriers and cable companies often ignore--such as rural America and lower income communities. Our 5G network will be nationwide and connect the whole country. We will back our commitment to these areas with at least 600 new retail stores, five new customer experience centers, and 12,000 new employees on the ground in rural areas and small towns--communities that need them the most. Our lower income customers use the most data because they disproportionately rely on their phones to access the internet. They have the most to gain when the price of data drops! Urban or rural, the merger will build a much-needed bridge across the digital divide. We aren't stopping there, as our plans include breaking into new and emerging lines of business such as enterprise, Internet of Things (``IoT''), and video. This merger will be a tremendous jobs creator at New T- Mobile and across the country. Certain opponents of our merger with vested interests in maintaining the status quo have falsely characterized this merger as a job killer. But they have it all wrong: Our merger will be jobs positive from day one--and going forward. The build-out of our 5G network, investment in new customer experience centers, and expansion into new businesses like broadband, video distribution, and enterprise services means thousands more jobs than the two standalone companies would have needed. New T-Mobile will need approximately 3,600 more employees in its first year and more than 11,000 more employees by 2024 than the standalone companies combined without the merger. We recently announced the locations for three of five new technologically advanced customer experience centers that New T-Mobile will build--one in Sprint's hometown of Overland Park, Kansas, one in the greater Rochester area of New York, and one in California's Central Valley--each with over one thousand new employees. On top of increasing competition and adding jobs, this merger will also help ensure that the tremendous benefits of 5G leadership are realized here in America. The United States led the world in 4G and the monumental ecosystem that was built around it, spawning companies such as Uber, Snap, and Venmo. Our merger creates the opportunity to continue that leadership in the 5G world. Nothing short of our global technology leadership is on the line. New T-Mobile will build the robust, nationwide, secure 5G network that will win the race to 5G. Neither Sprint nor T-Mobile could do anything close to this on their own. And no one else will do it on our accelerated time frame if we don't do it together. The benefits of the transaction have always been obvious to us. Since we announced the merger last April, the evidence is even more powerful today than it was then. In the meantime, I have heard what our opponents have to say, and I am here today to address those concerns directly and explain why they're wrong. We are confident that a T-Mobile/Sprint merger will benefit the U.S. economy for American workers and consumers and promote U.S. technological leadership and our national security. Make no mistake, opponents of the transaction are fear- mongering about job losses and price increases in a desperate effort to maintain the status quo. They know that blocking this transaction will only entrench the incumbent Big Two wireless carriers AND Big Cable--and that's their goal. Opponents and their backers are terrified of the competition that a supercharged Un-carrier will bring! T-Mobile welcomes this Committee's role in providing oversight, and I am pleased to answer your questions. First, I will provide some further details on the transaction and topics of interest. Excitement Over the Benefits of the Transaction Together with Sprint, we have been working since the deal announcement in April to share the tremendous benefits of the transaction in every corner of the country. We have also provided the evidence to back up our claims so that consumers, employees, policymakers, and regulators could make up their own minds. We have provided over 25 million pages of T-Mobile documents to the U.S. Department of Justice and Federal Communications Commission and have had many meetings with the staff of both agencies to answer their questions. We've made filings on the transaction in 19 states and met with a number of State Attorneys General and their staffs. I've also had the honor to meet with several Members of this Subcommittee one-on- one to discuss the transaction's benefits directly. We engaged from the beginning with U.S. national security agencies with whom both T-Mobile and Sprint have had longstanding partnerships. And we've connected with many consumer groups, small business organizations, civil rights groups, and other important stakeholders in the wireless economy to understand their needs and explain the benefits of this transaction. It has been a long road, but what we've learned is that when workers, consumers, regulators, and policymakers understand the facts about the transaction--the details I will share with you today--they can understand that together T- Mobile and Sprint will protect and enhance technological leadership in the world, improve the consumer experience and consumer welfare, supercharge competition in wireless and beyond, and create a jobs engine for the U.S. economy. I'll mention just a few important milestones in our journey. The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (``CFIUS'') and Team Telecom completed their national security review and approved the transaction. Sixteen of nineteen State regulatory commissions (including the District of Columbia) have approved the transaction, including most recently the New York Public Service Commission, which concluded that the transaction is in the public interest. Attorneys General Sean Reyes (R-UT) and Hector Balderas (D-NM) have written in support, highlighting benefits to rural America. Governor Laura Kelly (D-KS) and numerous other State officials have expressed support for the transaction. We are particularly honored that Congresswoman Anna Eshoo (D-CA) and Congressman Billy Long (R-MO) spearheaded a bipartisan letter of support. Over 200 national and local civil rights, economic development, community and business organizations, companies, government officials, and community leaders have provided public support for the transaction, including: The U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce; the U.S. Black Chamber of Commerce; the National Hispanic Caucus of State Legislators; the National Rural Education Association; the National Puerto Rico Chamber of Commerce; and Silicon Harlem, among many others. At three public interest hearings in Fresno, Los Angeles, and San Diego, California, at least 60 private individuals and Members of local community groups came out to voice support. And a number of MVNOs--so-called ``virtual'' carriers that utilize the T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, or Sprint networks to offer service--such as TracFone, Ultra Mobile/Mint Mobile, Prepaid Wireless Group, and Republic Wireless, support the merger because it gives them access to a super 5G network that will expand their business opportunities and enable them to compete and better serve their customers. Several well-respected academics and think tanks have published papers that support and extol the transaction, including papers on the competitiveness and dynamism of wireless markets, the convergence of wireless and wired broadband, the importance of 5G for rural economic development, and how U.S. leadership in 5G can help close the digital divide for the benefit of communities of color. I have been encouraged by this tremendous support and excited by the opportunity to share our story with all of you. U.S. Leadership in 5G is Critical to American Innovation and National Security I will start with the amazing 5G network that New T-Mobile will build by combining T-Mobile and Sprint. This merger will help ensure that the tremendous benefits of 5G leadership are realized here in America. The stakes are high--nothing less than preserving our edge in innovation and maintaining our security. Just look at 4G. The U.S. started rolling it out nationwide before almost any other nation, getting the technology into hands of innovators and entrepreneurs, and today 99.7% of Americans are covered by 4G LTE. The result: America and our innovators led the global mobile economy for the last decade. Uber, Snap, Venmo, and Instagram are all products and businesses built largely or entirely on the 4G mobile web. Furthermore, many of today's global internet leaders like Google, Facebook, and Amazon rose to prominence by leveraging the transition to mobile here in the U.S. first. Analysts estimate this early leadership generated billions in economic value and millions of new jobs here in America. As the next generation of wireless technology, 5G is a game changer. The capacity, speed, and latency of 5G are truly revolutionary and far beyond what the most advanced 4G network can support today. 5G will enable superior capacity, faster data rates, and much lower latency, as well as energy efficiency leading to longer battery life and the capability to connect a greater number of devices. Our 5G network will deliver fiber-like data speeds, low latency for real-time interactivity, more consistent performance and user experience, and massive capacity for unlimited data to support things like 4K video streaming, smart cities, real time translation, online gaming, and other exciting applications that cannot be served across a substantial number of users by 4G. This will transform the way Americans live, work, travel, and play. Nearly every business in America will use 5G to revolutionize how they create and deliver goods and services. New T-Mobile's 5G network will serve as a platform for ensuring that the 5G ecosystem of innovation and technological development occurs in the United States. Just as we experienced with 4G, the countries who are first to deploy broad, robust 5G will enjoy a critical global edge in innovation, development, and deployment of related technologies and products, such as the IoT, autonomous vehicles, advanced telemedicine, and entertainment. The United States is not alone in pursuing this goal. The United States must win the 5G race against China and do so in a way that protects our national security. 5G will be the means to connect and control phones, computers, cars, and appliances--nearly every device you can imagine. It is therefore imperative that U.S. 5G networks are secure. Winning the 5G deployment race is critical to assuring this security. It will give U.S. companies more influence as the standards that define 5G technology continue to develop. It will also bolster trusted network equipment suppliers who must compete against Chinese companies such as Huawei and ZTE. And it also ensures that cutting-edge U.S. innovation around 5G occurs in the United States, which is as critical for our security as it is for our economy. The flood of innovation that 5G will unleash must occur in our country. Although 5G leadership is critical to America's future, the United States is falling behind in the 5G race. Other countries have shown that they will do whatever it takes to win the race to 5G and are making substantial commitments to support this goal. China has taken a global lead in the race, thanks to industry momentum and government support. China's 5-year economic plan specifies $400 billion in 5G-related investment, and China Tower alone has added nearly ten times the number of 5G sites than all U.S. companies combined. Since 2015, the U.S. has underspent China in wireless infrastructure by $8 to $10 billion. It is critically important that we turn the tide and recommit to American leadership in 5G. The Combination of T-Mobile and Sprint Ensures U.S. 5G Leadership Time is of the essence. Only accelerated deployment of robust, nationwide 5G will preserve our edge. Only New T- Mobile's 5G network will do it! This transaction ensures that America secures 5G leadership today and in the future. The combination of T-Mobile and Sprint accelerates deployment of a world-leading, national, broad and deep 5G network in the United States, built upon a set of perfectly complementary assets of the two companies. T-Mobile possesses low-band (600 MHz) spectrum, which is particularly useful for providing coverage across broad geographic areas, but has limited capacity, and high-band (mmWave) spectrum, which is useful primarily for outdoor applications and in targeted densely populated areas. By contrast, Sprint lacks low and high-band spectrum, but possesses substantial mid-band (2.5 GHz) spectrum, which has more limited coverage capabilities than low-band spectrum but provides deep network capacity. Combining T-Mobile's low-band and high-band wireless spectrum with Sprint's mid-band spectrum will allow for both extremely broad coverage and deep network capacity, providing the optimum scenario for a robust, nationwide 5G network. New T-Mobile will have the complete portfolio of spectrum necessary to offer top speeds and massive capacity to dense urban areas. At the same time, New T-Mobile will also bring robust 5G service to rural areas that will otherwise lag far behind. No other U.S. company currently has the available spectrum necessary to deploy 5G both broadly--truly nationwide coverage to nearly all Americans--and deeply--with the high speeds and massive capacity that 5G applications will require. Only this merger brings these assets together to enable a supercharged, nationwide 5G network! New T-Mobile will be able to invest significantly more in its 5G network than either company could standing alone. Through cost savings and efficiencies largely derived from combining the two networks and the scale we will achieve, New T-Mobile will be able to invest nearly $40 billion over the next three years to build out and enhance its network and bring the company into the 5G future. How? Combining with Sprint will give us the resources to enhance and build the vast, dense network of cellular towers and high-capacity antennas that will make full use of these assets for 5G. Today, T-Mobile has 64,000 macro sites across the Nation and Sprint has 46,000. Of the combined 110,000 towers, New T-Mobile will integrate approximately 11,000 sites from the Sprint network into the T- Mobile network and add 10,000 new sites, creating a much denser, higher capacity network that can carry substantially more traffic at the same time than either company could on its own. The breadth of the new cell site infrastructure, with approximately 84,000 macro cell sites blanketing the country, will allow New T-Mobile to provide reliable signal strength levels to far more areas than either standalone company. When compared to the standalone networks in 2021 and 2024, New T-Mobile will more than double 5G capacity by 2021, and nearly triple 5G capacity by 2024--more than eight times the capacity of T-Mobile and Sprint's networks combined today. This increase in capacity will dramatically decrease our cost of delivering each gigabyte of data, which will be translated into lower prices for customers. Indeed, our business plan anticipates that prices will continue to decline over the next six years, and an analysis of our merger by a leading economist concluded that building the nationwide 5G network will also provoke competitive responses from Verizon and AT&T and result in as much as a 55 percent decrease in price per gigabyte and a 120 percent increase in data supply for all wireless customers across the industry than would happen without this merger. In terms of speed, within two years of closing, the New T- Mobile network will be able to offer data speeds five times the speed of what the standalone T-Mobile 5G network would be able to offer. By 2024, the speeds will reach a point of fiber-like capabilities, averaging over 450 Mbps--that's 15 times the speed of today's T-Mobile network--and the New T-Mobile network will virtually eliminate the constraints consumers currently experience in congested environments, allowing for near instantaneous sharing and downloading of content from almost any location. This will transform the way Americans live, work, travel, and play by facilitating an enormous variety of IoT applications, as well as the full spectrum of connected devices. In sum, compared to today's T-Mobile network, New T- Mobile will have 8 times the capacity and 15 times the speed by 2024. In terms of coverage, New T-Mobile's 5G network will be truly nationwide. In fact, by 2024, over 290 million Americans (90 percent) will have access to average data speeds over 100 Mbps through New T-Mobile--higher speeds than many homes have through wired broadband service today. Neither Sprint nor T- Mobile on their own would be able to offer anything like that coverage. Even more incredibly, two-thirds of the country will have lightning fast 500 Mbps average data speeds by 2024--data speeds that neither Sprint nor T-Mobile will be able to offer any consumers on their standalone 5G networks for the foreseeable future. Even better, the broad geographic reach of New T-Mobile's 5G network will finally bring rural communities into the mobile broadband era. Rural communities that lack access to quality broadband can stagnate economically, as skilled workers take their talents to urban centers to fully participate in today's digital economy. Combining T-Mobile's and Sprint's spectrum allows us to close the gaps in rural broadband access and increase outdoor wireless coverage to reach 59.4 million rural residents, or 95.8 percent of the estimated 62 million rural residents. Opponents of the transaction have claimed that T-Mobile and Sprint do not need to merge to roll out 5G. That misses the point. To be clear, we are not saying we cannot get to 5G without Sprint. What we are saying is that together, we can build a world class 5G network with breadth and depth well beyond anything we could do alone. So, while it is true that T- Mobile and Sprint have already announced 5G plans, the standalone plans to deploy 5G are not even close to comparable to the network New T-Mobile can and will build. The Combination of T-Mobile and Sprint Safeguards U.S. National Security for 5G This transaction will also empower New T-Mobile with the network, resources, and spectrum to drive U.S. leadership in 5G, safeguarding our networks. New T-Mobile's incredible, industry-leading 5G network will be built and operated right here in the United States by an American company with American management. Our New T-Mobile 5G network will not only be the most robust, but it will also be the most secure. T-Mobile and Sprint have engaged extensively in partnership with the U.S. Government for many years. This partnership will continue with New T-Mobile into 5G, setting us apart from other U.S. wireless carriers in providing visibility into our 5G suppliers and ensuring our network remains safe and secure. As the global 5G deployment leader, New T-Mobile will have the most recent and up-to-date security framework with the U.S. Government of any wireless carrier. And as I mentioned at the outset, CFIUS and Team Telecom have approved this transaction after an extensive national security review. Opponents of the transaction have set up a shadowy group that refuses to disclose its donors and lobs allegations that this transaction will allow Huawei and ZTE into U.S. networks. That's false, and they know it is. Let me be clear--we do not use Huawei or ZTE network equipment in any area of our network. Period. And we will never use it in our 5G network. New T-Mobile will buy network equipment only from trusted network equipment suppliers with a strong security track record in the United States. By accelerating deployment of true, robust nationwide 5G, New T-Mobile will provide a critical lift to these trusted network equipment vendors--Huawei's competitors--protecting the 5G supply chain for the United States and our allies. Combining T-Mobile and Sprint will create a world-leading robust, broad, and deep nationwide 5G wireless network unlike anything either company could do alone and well before anyone else can do it. The United States will have 5G with or without this merger. The question is whether America will lead or follow. As the Un-carrier, we want to lead! Our merger with Sprint will be the catalyst to do that. The Creation of New T-Mobile Will Be Better for Consumers New T-Mobile will have the capital, scale, and network to supercharge competition and drive a full-on competitive response from AT&T and Verizon as well as newer players. The competition will still be far, far larger than us, but the merger will allow us to upend their lock on the market like never before. The combined company will continue the T-Mobile tradition of disrupting the wireless space, but we won't stop there. We will disrupt broadband, enterprise, and video as well. This increased competition in wireless and other areas will also lead to more innovation. This deal is exciting and transformative for American consumers! At T-Mobile, we are serious about the potential to grow, disrupt, and deliver new solutions and alternatives to consumers from one end of the country to the other. Being a maverick is in my DNA and T-Mobile's DNA, but it is also central to our successful business strategy and to the business plan of the combined company. As we build out our 5G network and expand into new services, we will need to grow our customer base. That means keeping the customers we've fought hard to win and attracting new customers with great quality and prices, and more innovative offerings. That's why two core assumptions of our business plan for the New T-Mobile are that prices will go down and output--data usage by customers--will increase. That's what makes this merger fundamentally different from one designed to restrict consumers' choices, reduce supply, and raise prices. Business success is based on increasing competition, not reducing it! First and foremost, the merger will increase competition in wireless. Our opponents claim that the merger will lead to higher prices, but this couldn't be further from the truth. I want to reiterate, unequivocally, that New T-Mobile rates will NOT go up. Rather, our merger will ensure that American consumers will pay less and get more. Greater capacity means our network can handle many more devices with greater capabilities at the same time everywhere in the country. It's like building a new stadium with three times as many seats--we will have the incentive and ability to bring more people in the door than ever before to fill up the seats. Our existing customers won't be enough to use all that extra capacity. We will have enormous economic incentives to bring new customers in to fill up the network. How will we do that? By lowering our prices, improving our products, and offering better service. Indeed, as capacity goes up, the price per gigabyte goes down, so we will not only be incentivized to add customers, but to do so at lower prices. The business plan for New T-Mobile calls for lower prices to win more customers. This isn't just for any segment of customers--this capacity dividend will be passed along to all customers, including our wholesale and prepaid customers. All American customers will win with lower prices and better services! In fact, we are so confident that this merger will give consumers more for their money that we are willing to put our money where our mouth is. Last month T-Mobile made a commitment that I stand behind: New T-Mobile will make available the same or better rate plans as those offered by T-Mobile or Sprint for three years following the merger. Let me be clear: We are committed to making the same or better plans available at current or lower prices. We will not raise prices, and we are happy to put it in writing! But that is only part of the story--that's just what New T- Mobile will do. AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, Charter, and the other players won't stand still as they will be forced to react fast or lose even more customers to New T-Mobile! When we lower our prices, they will have to lower their prices. When we improve quality, they will have to improve quality. The standalone T-Mobile has shaken up the industry and caused the big players to take notice, but the competitive response that we can force from them will be nothing like what we can do as the New T-Mobile. When we innovate to offer new products and services, they will have to do the same. This competitive response will be game changing, and we can't wait to see the kind of ecosystem of innovation and technological development that will occur right here in the United States. When we force Verizon and AT&T to respond, we're helping more than just our customers, we're helping all wireless customers across the country. We've submitted economic analysis to the FCC and DOJ demonstrating that American consumers will pay roughly 55 percent less per gigabyte of data in 2024 as a result of the transaction. All consumers, including lower-income and our diverse customer base, will benefit from increased competition and lower prices. One thing I am particularly excited about is that New-T- Mobile will bring new competition beyond wireless to in-home broadband--a market where tens of millions of consumers have few if any choices. Consumers hate their cable and wireline broadband choices, but today, they rarely have somewhere else to turn. With the spectrum and infrastructure assets of the combined companies, New T-Mobile's 5G network will give them a better option and a reason to ``cut the cord.'' By 2024, we will be able to deliver mobile wireless data speeds averaging over 100 Mbps, speeds that will equal or exceed wireline broadband to nearly 90 percent of the U.S. population, giving tens of millions of consumers a new mobile wireless alternative to their current fixed and wired broadband provider, allowing them to cut the broadband cord. Cutting the cord will offer enormous savings to consumers. Today, a consumer will typically pay around $80 a month for wired in-home broadband service. Cutting the cord will lead to $960 in annual savings for consumers. Further, the merger enables New T-Mobile to offer its own in-home wireless broadband solution (New T-Mobile Home Internet), and we project that we will sign up 9.5 million households nationwide for in-home broadband service by 2024-- New T-Mobile will be the fourth largest in-home internet service provider in the country based upon current subscriber shares, and a real competitive force in that market segment. Our economic analysis shows that by 2024 American consumers will save as much as $7 to $13 billion annually in lower broadband prices from the new alternatives and competition this merger will create. While some opponents of the merger have argued that this merger will hurt lower-income or budget-conscious consumers, that is 180 degrees wrong! Budget conscious consumers have the most to gain from the combination of T-Mobile and Sprint! Remember, the whole point of this transaction is to give consumers more for less--that is exactly what budget-conscious consumers want. That's why we love those customers at T-Mobile. They demand the best product at the lowest prices possible. They keep us sharp, so we keep the competition sharp. That's what we do, and what we will continue to do under the merger-- only bigger and better. All customers of New T-Mobile will benefit from the transaction because they will all be on the same great network and benefit from the same massive increases in capacity and dramatic decreases in the costs of delivering our service. Budget-conscious customers, including those on prepaid plans, will benefit the most from increased capacity and improved quality of the network. Those customers rely far more on mobile data than our other customers. They often lack a fixed broadband connection and use their phones as their primary or sole connection to the internet. Prepaid customers, like all of New T-Mobile's customers, will benefit from New T- Mobile's LTE and 5G improvements at no added cost. A faster, deeper, and broader network from New T-Mobile is exactly what they need! And for those that do have broadband today, $960 in annual savings from cutting the cord is a massive dividend that we will deliver. New T-Mobile is going to keep all of the great prepaid brands our customers love from both T-Mobile and Sprint--great choices like Metro, Boost, and Virgin will remain, in addition to those our competitors offer. We will also continue to offer Lifeline services, which is a program that helps low- income consumers afford phone and broadband service. You have my commitment on this: Barring material changes to today's Lifeline program, New T-Mobile is committed to continuing to offer Lifeline service indefinitely. But it gets even better: New T-Mobile's expansive 5G network will allow Lifeline services to be offered in many places where Sprint had no coverage. And all Lifeline subscribers will be able to take advantage of the same incredible New T-Mobile network as other subscribers. New T-Mobile will also be able to compete in wireless market segments that T-Mobile and Sprint rarely serve today. For example, AT&T and Verizon currently dominate enterprise services, or wireless services for business and government customers. Despite best efforts, neither Sprint nor T-Mobile has been able to make in-roads into AT&T and Verizon's nearly 90 percent share of the enterprise space. T-Mobile has only a very small share of the business market segment (including small businesses) today, and only an estimated 4 percent share of the large enterprise and government portion of the segment. Going forward, New T-Mobile will have the capacity and resources to be a disruptor in the enterprise space, and we will have every reason to compete hard for that business by innovating, offering better service, and lowering prices. Right now, AT&T and Verizon dominate that market. Armed with more scale and network capability, New T-Mobile will inject more competition and innovation into the Enterprise market. Better for American Workers T-Mobile is an amazing company to work for. I am proud that we are rated a top place to work by many organizations, including among many other accolades being recognized among the ``Best Places to Work'' by employee crowd-sourced website Glassdoor.com and for the eleventh consecutive year, being named one of the World's Most Ethical Companies by Ethisphere Institute. Our employees are motivated and energized by the success of the company. They are proud Magenta heroes, all of whom are owners and invested in the company. Our employees are also diverse, reflecting who we are and who our customers are. We have won many kudos for our leadership in the area of diversity and inclusion. In 2018 alone, Forbes named T-Mobile a ``Best Employer for Diversity''; we were honored as one of the ``Best Places to Work for Disability Inclusion'' by the U.S. Department of Labor's Disability Employment Initiative; and we were named the ``Best-of-the-Best Corporation for Inclusion'' by the National LGBT Chamber of Commerce. We were also honored by Military Friendly as one of the ``Nation's Top Military Friendly Employers''; we were named the ``Top 30 Best Employers for Latinos'' by Latino Leaders Magazine; and we received a perfect score on the Human Rights Campaign Corporate Equality Index. I am proud that this transaction will grow the number of T- Mobile employees so even more people will experience our terrific teams and culture. Unlike many transactions, our merger will be jobs positive from Day One and in the future. From 2019 forward there will be more employees at the New T- Mobile than the standalone companies combined. This is because New T-Mobile will spend nearly $40 billion to combine spectrum, sites, and assets and to develop its business over the next three years. We will need to hire thousands of employees to combine the networks and deploy 5G, to extend the Un-carrier customer care model to a wider subscriber base, and to support growing services like in-home broadband. New T-Mobile's business plan shows that New T-Mobile will employ 3,600 more employees after year one, and over 11,000 more employees by 2024, than the standalone companies combined. This is a result of approximately 600 new stores located to serve rural customers and small communities and five new technologically advanced customer experience centers that will implement the company's innovative ``Team of Experts'' customer care model. These stores and customer experience centers will create over 10,000 new American jobs. In fact, we will offer a job with the New T-Mobile to every single employee of T-Mobile and Sprint working in one of our retail stores. T-Mobile's history shows that we may end up hiring even more people than we expect. When we acquired MetroPCS in 2013, we expected that MetroPCS's employee count would stay about the same. Flashing forward to today, over 20,000 more people work in support of the MetroPCS brand than when the transaction closed. The same team that integrated MetroPCS into T-Mobile will lead the effort to seamlessly integrate T-Mobile and Sprint, and we can expect a similarly successful transition. We know we will grow jobs, not reduce them. We will need every hand on deck to build a world-leading 5G network and bring new competition to AT&T, Verizon, and the Cable giants. Communications Workers of America (``CWA'') has said that this transaction will lead to nearly 30,000 job losses across the United States--more than the total number of Sprint employees today! Well, I've looked at their study. With all due respect, it's pure hogwash. The merger does the opposite of what CWA claims--it grows jobs, not eliminates them. How does CWA come up with a different answer? Well, it's easy if you ignore the facts. For example, their analysis doesn't account for any areas where jobs will grow--like in new customer experience centers, enterprise services, broadband and media, and network build and integration. And we've heard this story before: CWA predicted that T-Mobile would cut 10,000 jobs when we merged with MetroPCS. Today, over 20,000 more people have jobs working under the Metro banner than before that merger! CWA was completely wrong then, and they are wrong now. Beyond T-Mobile, the innovation and growth fostered by the acceleration of broadly deployed 5G networks, which the transaction will instigate, will add hundreds of thousands of jobs to the U.S. economy. A study we have submitted to the FCC shows that New T-Mobile will stimulate economic growth contributing to more than 33,700 additional jobs over the five- year study period. CTIA predicts that the United States will add millions of new jobs if we win the race to 5G, and this transaction will put America in the pole position. We are excited to be a part of that growth, spurring our suppliers to hire more workers as we rely on them to turn our investments into a better, faster 5G network. New T-Mobile Must and Will Deliver on Its Commitments No one except a few self-interested critics disagrees that the United States has to lead in 5G and that creating a more effective competitor for Verizon and AT&T is better for consumers and the economy. But some have argued that this merger will not deliver on what we are promising. I could not disagree more. We are the Un-carrier. If we broke faith we would lose our loyal customers and destroy the future of our brand. I want to assure you that we would never do this. My management team and I believe in delivering on our promises, and we know if we do not, we will lose credibility and the trust of our customers. Everyone at T-Mobile has put too much blood, sweat, and tears into this brand and philosophy to abandon our Un-carrier ways, and our customers are committed to us for it. It matters to us, it matters to consumers, and it works for our shareholders. We fully understand that being successful in the evolving telecommunications marketplace requires that New T- Mobile continue being an aggressive disruptor that challenges the status quo. If we changed, we'd run the risk of losing the confidence of our customers and losing our position of brand strength in the marketplace--and it would clearly cost us paying customers. These people came to us because we offered something different from the other guys. They would abandon us--and I wouldn't blame them--if we started acting like AT&T, Verizon, or a hated cable company. Our business plan and our future success are centered around building a world class 5G network for everyone and delivering more to consumers for less. We have a history of delivering on our promises, and we have no plans of changing that now. New T-Mobile will deliver on the benefits--a robust, deep 5G network, increased competition, lower prices for higher quality, and increased jobs! We will keep true to who we are and deliver for consumers and for our country. It's who we are at T-Mobile--but delivering more for less is also great business! Accelerated, industry-leading, robust, nationwide 5G deployment is the foundation of New T-Mobile's business plan. New T-Mobile's business plan also projects aggressive share increases--taken from the industry leaders AT&T and Verizon--through its accelerated, enhanced 5G deployment. New T-Mobile will be able to attract new customers by delivering more data for the same or less dollars on a world-class 5G network and bringing new competition to broadband, enterprise, and video. New T-Mobile's success depends on being a stronger, more aggressive competitor! T- Mobile has committed to shareholders that it will rapidly integrate the networks and deploy industry-leading 5G, and they have staked billions of dollars on this happening. That's why we are happy to put our money where our mouth is and make clear commitments on prices and jobs. We know we can deliver, as New T-Mobile planned to do it anyway! Conclusion The New T-Mobile will enable U.S. leadership in 5G and bring tremendous benefits for consumers, American workers, and the economy as a whole. Only this merger, combined with our winning Un-carrier strategy, can get us there. As we build out our 5G network and expand into new services our plan is simple: Keep the customers we've fought hard to win and win new customers with great quality, lower prices, and more innovative offerings. Only the New T-Mobile, with the track record and DNA of the Un-carrier, can actually make that a reality. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today. I look forward to your questions. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Mr. Legere. Mr. Claure is now recognized for five minutes. TESTIMONY OF MARCELO CLAURE Mr. Claure. Thank you. Chair Cicilline, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner, and Members of the Subcommittee, it is truly an honor to be here, and I am grateful for the opportunity to speak to you. I would like to take this opportunity to explain why Sprint's proposed merger with T-Mobile will be great for the American consumers, will be great for Sprint employees, and, more importantly, is going to be great for our country. I will go into details in a moment but before I do so, I want to tell you a little about me. First, I am an immigrant. I immigrated to the United States as a young man from Bolivia. I had very little money. I went to a small but great university in Boston and I received a priceless education. Second, I am an entrepreneur. After I graduated, I founded a company called Brightstar. I started selling phones out of my car and I gradually grew Brightstar into the largest mobile phone distribution and supply chain company in the world. We worked hard. We grew to over $10 billion in. sales and we had thousands of employees all over the world. I am most proud that we made Brightstar the largest Hispanic-owned company in U.S. history. In 2014, I sold my business Brightstar to SoftBank. After that, I immediately became Sprint CEO. At that time, Sprint, a proud Kansas company, was near financial ruin. In 2013, the company had lost over $5 billion and in the previous 10 years Sprint had lost over $25 billion, and we had approximately $31 billion in debt. A great company with tens of thousands of jobs across the U.S. was at risk. Beginning in 2014, we undertook a massive and painful transformation of the company. We worked very hard from the ground up. We reduced our expenses by close to $6 billion through cost reductions, employee layoffs, and some unwanted transfers of jobs overseas. We didn't want to, but we had to do that to save Sprint. Today, Sprint is no longer in financial dire straits, but we still do face serious challenges. Despite our success, we are unable to fix our remaining challenge, the quality of our network. We cannot fix our network because of our poor financial situation and our lack of low band spectrum. Because of our network quality issues, Sprint still struggles to attract lots of customers and many customers that we acquire today leave at a faster pace than our competitors. Customers today are not willing to sacrifice quality. Today, the U.S. wireless market has become a duopoly. Verizon and AT&T has close to 70 percent market share and they control over 93 percent of the cash flow generated in our industry. As a result, there is no way that we can invest and be able to compete at the same level. Today, America and the world are at a technological inflection point. Over the next few years, 5G, a new standard of connectivity, will completely change the way we connect, but Sprint doesn't have the resources to build a nationwide 5G network to provide the necessary competition against the AT&T and Verizon duopoly. We estimate ourselves that we need at least $20 to $25 billion just to have 5G in our limited coverage area and because we aren't generating any cash flow, the only way to pay for this will be to raise more debt and to pay for that debt we have to raise our prices. We could no longer be the price leader. The only company that can build the world's best 5G network is a combination of Sprint and T-Mobile and we can only do this if this merger is approved. As a combined company, we are committed to invest nearly $40 billion over the next three years to build the world's best 5G network with nationwide coverage. How can we do this together? It is simple. It is a marriage of two necessary and complementary 5G pieces. Sprint has high- capacity spectrum which it acquired over many years. T-Mobile has broad national coverage spectrum. It is capacity plus coverage together that will allow us to build the most advanced network covering every network, every corner of America in urban, suburban, and rural areas. Sprint cannot do this alone and T-Mobile cannot do it either. We need each other to succeed. We cannot take lightly the fact that America needs to lead the world in 5G. China has made it a priority to win the 5G race. They are investing billions of dollars. When a country has the best network with the latest technology, it brings massive economic stimulus, explosive job growth, and a new wave of entrepreneurs. America's the land of innovators and disrupters. Let's keep it this way. My story validates this. Letting another country take 5G leadership away from the U.S. is going to cause irreparable damage. This is an opportunity of a lifetime. In addition, as you heard John, we are committed to lower prices. When we merge our two companies, we are going to create eight times the network capacity that we would have on our own. We will have to beat AT&T and Verizon on prices to fill this new capacity. This makes financial sense. It is good for business but, more importantly, it is our commitment. Lastly, it is true that most mergers do not create jobs. This merger is the opposite. This is a growth story. This new company will create new jobs, blue-collar and white-collar jobs, jobs in urban, suburban, and rural America. We will need a skilled network of engineers, construction crews, enterprise sales teams, call center jobs that we are going to bring back from overseas, and new sales reps for the new stores we are opening. I can't thank you enough for allowing me to speak today. As I mentioned, I am grateful to this country. As an American entrepreneur, I hope the merger is approved. I look forward to answering your questions. Thank you. [The statement of Mr. Claure follows:] STATEMENT OF MR. CLAURE Chairman Cicilline, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner, and Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear today to share my perspective on why this merger will be good for American consumers, good for Sprint employees, and good for U.S. technological leadership and the next generation of entrepreneurs. This is a critical time in the evolution of the wireless industry, and it is a particularly critical time for the customers, employees, and shareholders of Sprint. I have spent my career driving innovation and competition in the wireless industry. I served as Sprint's CEO from August 2014 until May 31, 2018, when I transitioned to my current role as Sprint's Executive Chairman. I am also the Chairman Emeritus of CTIA, a trade association representing the U.S. wireless communications industry, and I am expected to serve on the Board of the New T- Mobile following the completion of the merger. I know John Legere will be elaborating on his vision for the new company and all that he hopes to achieve. For my part, I would like to focus on why joining with T-Mobile now represents the best opportunity for Sprint to continue to be a force for competitiveness and innovation in the industry. I also want to explain the considerations that led us to this merger. It is no secret that in recent years, Sprint has had to chart a course through daunting obstacles. Over the last decade, the company had lost over $25 billion. For all the talent and work of our employees, our path was simply not sustainable. I am proud of what Sprint has done to stabilize itself and to put us in position to seize the important opportunity that we have today to address some of those longstanding challenges. Sprint is currently in the fifth and final year of its ``Sprint Now'' plan to turn around the company. We made difficult but necessary changes that have enabled us to cut billions of dollars in costs, improve our networks, and do better at attracting and retaining subscribers. In 2017, Sprint became net income positive for the first time in 11 years, and we achieved positive metrics across several other financial performance measures. Today, we are a more stable company financially than we have been in a very long time, and that financial stability has enabled us to embark on new, much- needed investments in our network aimed at trying to catch up with technological innovation in our industry. We have also been able to undertake initiatives such as the 1Million Project, which gives mobile devices and free high-speed internet access to high school students who don't have reliable connectivity at home. I am thrilled that this program will be continued under the New T-Mobile. Sprint's employees rightly take pride in all that we have accomplished together and are optimistic about the future. But as CEO and now Executive Chairman, I am acutely aware of what it has taken to get us to this point and the challenges that lie ahead. Achieving financial stabilization required us to reduce our network investment to historically low levels and to shrink the size of the company. Sprint's employee headcount fell from 40,000 in 2011 to 30,000 in 2018, a 25 percent decrease that was a painful but necessary step to stabilize our financial position. We also face an extremely high debt burden, with nearly $40 billion in total debt as of the end of calendar year 2018. And we have offered aggressive subscription promotions in an attempt to gain scale, creating challenges for our ability to make additional investments. Even with all of this effort, we still are unable to spend at parity with Verizon and AT&T, much less catch up to their previous investments. Our scale presents significant challenges. Because AT&T and Verizon have significantly more subscribers than Sprint, they have and can continue to spread network costs over a much larger customer base, resulting in a far lower cost per subscriber for a given level of capital spend. As a result, we continue to face difficult questions about how best to attract additional customers, improve our network, and find ways to challenge the two dominant players in the wireless market, AT&T and Verizon. There is an urgent need for us to answer the questions about our future because the wireless industry today is at an inflection point. It is poised to deploy the next leap forward in wireless technology--the fifth generation of wireless service--called 5G. Sprint wants to be a leader in this leap forward, but our plan anticipates a limited 5G build over time that will lack broad coverage. Given the characteristics of our mix of spectrum, our comparatively smaller scale, and the size of the capital expenditures involved, Sprint will be able to deliver 5G only in limited areas, focusing on population-dense metropolitan areas. Consequently, Sprint as a standalone company cannot fully seize the tremendous opportunity that 5G creates, much less match what a merged Sprint and T-Mobile could do together as a competitor and innovator. It is important to understand how our plans for 5G in the absence of a merger will necessarily be limited by our spectrum portfolio, lack of scale, and resource constraints. In particular, our limited low-band spectrum cannot provide a basis for launching a ubiquitous coverage layer for 5G, and building ubiquitous nationwide 5G coverage using only Sprint's 2.5 GHz spectrum would be impractical and economically infeasible. To be sure, Sprint's 2.5 GHz spectrum will deliver very high speeds and support substantial capacity where we are able to deploy it, but due to the propagation characteristics of 2.5 GHz spectrum, it would not provide a blanket of coverage outside of major metropolitan and suburban areas. Moreover, rolling out this more limited 5G network would require Sprint to invest $20-$25 billion in the next four years. Although subscribers in certain major cities will benefit from this roll-out, others will not, nor will we be able to truly unlock the power of 5G for innovation and entrepreneurship. Given these difficulties, I believe Sprint can contribute most effectively to the rollout of the next generation of wireless services--with all of the consumer and economic benefits that it entails--by combining our assets and know-how with T-Mobile. That is what makes me so excited about this merger. Through this transaction, the combined company will be able to build a transformative 5G network in America and unlock the promise of 5G faster and for more customers than either company could on a standalone basis. America and the world are racing to be the first to create the next generation of wireless technology, and the advantages of being a first mover cannot be overstated. As you will hear today, this merger will allow the combined company to dramatically accelerate the promise of nationwide 5G in the United States, deliver better performance and value to our customers, and create new jobs and opportunities for American workers. I. What the Transaction Means for the Race to 5G U.S. companies are in a race for 5G leadership, and the stakes could not be higher. A robust and ubiquitous 5G network will provide customers with incredibly fast speeds and massive capacity, and will create an ecosystem where the best creative minds can develop applications and uses to benefit consumers. An independent analysis by Accenture concludes that the United States is positioned to invest $275 billion in 5G, creating three million jobs and adding $500 billion to our economy. This merger will accelerate that investment. This is not just about faster wireless service for our subscribers--it is about ensuring that the United States leads in the next generation of innovation, which will rely on the massive capacity that 5G can unleash. The possible use cases for 5G include wearables, smart buildings, smart cities, smart agriculture, and safer self-driving cars. 5G will also include applications we can only imagine. The impact of the 4G/LTE deployment helps illustrate how critical it is for the United States to win the race to 5G. That generation of technology ushered in companies such as Uber and Airbnb. Indeed, it helped create the entire ``on-demand'' economy--new businesses and types of jobs that simply didn't exist before 4G. America led the world in the deployment of 4G. As a result, the United States got the benefit of the jobs and increased economic productivity that it facilitated. Much of the technological innovation enabled by 4G, and many of the companies built using that innovation, were U.S. companies-- creating new U.S. jobs. An analysis by Recon Analytics concluded that, by leading when the market evolved to 4G a number of years ago, the United States boosted annual GDP in 2016 by nearly $100 billion and resulted in a stunning 84% increase in wireless-related jobs in just a three-year period (2011-2014). Winning the race to 5G will require massive new investment and the right combination of spectrum. As John will describe in greater detail, the New T-Mobile has committed to spend nearly $40 billion--far beyond what Sprint has been able to spend in recent years or what it could spend alone--to achieve this world-class network and to increase its retail footprint to market this new technology, creating thousands of U.S. jobs directly and indirectly. It is important to understand that the promise of 5G lies not just in better and faster performance from mobile devices. The New T-Mobile will have the speed and capacity to substitute in many areas for in-home broadband--that is, the primary high- speed internet connection consumers use at home--including in areas that currently have few or no options for reliable in- home broadband, finally creating real competition in these areas. As a result, the new technology will enable the combined company to increase broadband coverage into more rural areas, along with improved signal quality and increased network capacity in places where neither company can profitably do so on its own. In short, the New T-Mobile will generate significantly improved and expanded services to unserved and underserved rural areas and create real choice for consumers. The blazing speed and enhanced capacity of the New T- Mobile's 5G network will enable it to offer consumers and businesses more choices and cost savings. This improved performance is especially important to our prepaid consumers and those on a tight budget for whom their mobile wireless connection is increasingly their best and, in some cases, their only reliable connection to the internet. The New T-Mobile's 5G network will also serve as a platform for new video options, including, but not limited to, video programming offered by the New T-Mobile itself. II. What the Transaction Means for Competition For years, Sprint has recognized the challenges posed by the fact that it competes in an industry dominated by two main players: Verizon and AT&T. Eight years ago, my predecessor Dan Hesse explained to the Senate and the House Judiciary Committee why a proposed merger between AT&T and T-Mobile would have made our industry less competitive. At that time, AT&T and Verizon together had two-thirds of the market, and the proposed merger would have taken a key disrupter off the field, leaving the market dominated by two behemoths. That merger did not go forward, because the government recognized that it was not in the public interest to let one of the two biggest providers get even bigger. But despite the substantial competitive efforts of Sprint and T-Mobile over the past eight years, AT&T and Verizon's grip on the market is just as strong today. They still together hold two-thirds of the market. And they have increasingly found ways to use their scale to cement their advantages rather than to compete vigorously with others in the marketplace. A huge and increasingly insurmountable gap remains between Sprint and both AT&T and Verizon. The merger today is critical to disrupting the marketplace and weakening the iron grip these giants have had on our industry. Even after the merger, the New T-Mobile will still be third in market share and will still be dwarfed by AT&T and Verizon in market capitalization. But it will be a much stronger competitor and a truly disruptive threat to the two giants' longstanding dominance. As part of the deal negotiations, executives from Sprint and T-Mobile extensively discussed the future of the combined company, and it became clear we share a common vision. For both Sprint and T-Mobile, this transaction is about the opportunity to create a better product for consumers than either company could achieve independently, continuing to offer innovative services and consumer value, and ultimately becoming the best wireless carrier in the United States. By joining forces, our two companies will have an opportunity to go head- to-head with the giants and to make the marketplace much more competitive and innovative. In turn, this will force AT&T and Verizon to accelerate and become more ambitious in their own 5G plans. The network that the New T-Mobile will be able to offer would transform the industry. Combining the complementary assets of both companies will enable a network that will offer unmatched coverage, capacity, and quality--both for current LTE customers and for the future 5G network that the New T-Mobile will be able to deploy. The combined network will surpass the quality of the networks offered by Verizon and AT&T, giving consumers more and better options than they have today. The transaction provides tremendous synergies, estimated at about $43 billion, and also provides much-needed economies of scale. The synergies and scale will allow the New T-Mobile to make the investments necessary to achieve its vision. Building and maintaining a national wireless network requires billions of dollars in capital expenditures and operating expenses each year. The synergies and scale of the combined company will create economic incentives for the New T-Mobile to build a world-class network, and to expand the geographic reach of its network to more Americans. In addition, the combined company will be focused on continuing the disruptive ``Un-carrier'' actions that have become synonymous with the T-Mobile brand. Led by John and T- Mobile's Mike Sievert, and drawing on the best that both T- Mobile and Sprint have to offer, the management team will be second-to-none. John and Mike have a vision for the New T- Mobile as a disruptive player in the industry and a force for innovation. This will be exciting for all the New T-Mobile employees. And as a prospective member of the Board of Directors of the New T-Mobile, I am eager to be part of the combined company and help realize that vision. Finally, it is important to appreciate that in addition to AT&T and Verizon, the wireless industry is increasingly seeing competition from a growing number of companies from other sectors with different business models, including Comcast, Charter, DISH, TracFone, and Google. These large, well- capitalized competitors are pushing into wireless because, just as we do, they see untapped potential for success if they are able to deliver better results to customers. III. What the Transaction Means for Americans Simply put, this transaction will bring benefits all across the country--in urban, suburban, and rural America. The combined company will deliver a far superior network, delivering tremendous value to consumers. Together, the New T- Mobile can supercharge the wireless industry with innovation, disruption, and an obsessive dedication to our customers. These benefits will be felt in several areas: 4G LTE. In the near term, the combined company will offer better 4G LTE services. The combined network will be anchored on the existing T-Mobile 4G LTE network and augmented with contributions from Sprint's network to improve coverage, consistency, speed, and capacity, with low income, black, and Hispanic customers among those who would benefit the most. More than 37 million Sprint devices are compatible with T-Mobile's LTE spectrum and can be migrated to the new network, and the number of customers who can access this improved 4G LTE network will only increase over time. 5G. Together, as I have discussed, Sprint and T-Mobile will be the first to deliver a nationwide 5G network with unmatched breadth and depth. They will be able to do this faster than either could hope to achieve as standalone companies. In particular, Sprint and T-Mobile have complementary spectrum holdings that, when combined, will be perfect for 5G. As independent entities, both companies would deploy 5G on their available spectrum, and, as a result of the spectrum they hold, each company's 5G network would have deficiencies. Sprint's planned 5G holdings are in mid-band spectrum, specifically the 2.5 GHz band. A rollout of truly nationwide coverage on this spectrum would require too many cellular radios to be economical or practical, and therefore Sprint's independent 5G network would have coverage gaps. T-Mobile's planned 5G spectrum holdings, on the other hand, are primarily in low band spectrum, specifically in the 600 MHz band. Signals sent over this spectrum travel far, making it ideal for extending geographic coverage. However, T-Mobile has a fixed amount of spectrum for 5G, so it will have very limited capacity, and the network will quickly get congested during those times when customers most want to use it. By bringing these resources together, the merger will create conditions for both nationwide coverage and massive amounts of network capacity, allowing for a 5G user experience that is robust and ubiquitous. While others currently advertise what they claim to be a 5G network, with coverage and capacity deficiencies noted in the fine print, the New T-Mobile will be the first to deliver truly mobile and nationwide coverage. Being faster to develop a ``true 5G'' network will help ensure that America will lead the development of the 5G ecosystem, which will be a significant boon for the American economy. If America can lead in 5G the way that this country led in 4G, it will benefit not only American consumers, but also all of the American companies that will develop the products, applications, and tools that will bring 5G to consumers across the world. Lower Prices and Cost Savings. As we have shown in the analyses we have submitted in support of the merger to DOJ, the FCC, and State regulators, the New T-Mobile will have powerful incentives to offer low prices to consumers in order to utilize the huge increase in network capacity that the transaction will make possible. The vision that John and Mike have for the New T-Mobile is that of a ``supercharged maverick,'' with the scale and resources to make a significant impact on the wireless marketplace for the better. This means the combined company will continuously look for ways to offer more for less, so it can grow its subscriber base and improve value propositions for American consumers. Critically, low income consumers will particularly benefit from these developments. These customers tend to use more mobile data and therefore will especially benefit from the increased capacity and improved service quality the New T- Mobile will provide--as well from the fact that the New T- Mobile's speed and capacity will give more consumers the option to ``cut the cord'' and rely on their mobile plans for internet access. Jobs. One of the things that excites me most about this merger is that it will enable us to add employees in the United States and to bring jobs that have moved offshore back home. I appreciate that executives' claims that mergers will create jobs are often met with skepticism. But here, the proposed merger will grow U.S jobs from day one and for the foreseeable future. By joining forces, the combined company will be able to make the investments needed to create a network that neither company could create on its own. The New T-Mobile is committed to spending nearly $40 billion over the next three years to build its 5G network, while also creating thousands of jobs across the country. In fact, we recently announced that the New T-Mobile plans to build five new state-of-the-art Customer Experience Centers around the United States, with each Center creating an average of 1,000 new jobs. In addition, the merger puts the combined company in a unique position to unlock the growth that will come with 5G. And, as previously mentioned, leading the world in 5G also will create opportunities for other U.S. companies to develop products and applications and to start and grow businesses that will employ thousands and thousands more people. On balance, this deal will create far more jobs than the status quo. Impact on Prepaid Customers. Sprint has long been proud to offer prepaid plans, and it is important to emphasize that the New T-Mobile's prepaid customers--as with its postpaid customers--will see significant benefits as a result of this transaction. As we have explained in our public filings, following the merger, prepaid customers with compatible handsets will enjoy the same improved network as postpaid customers, and perhaps more so, since many prepaid customers use more data than those on postpaid plans. This improved service also will not come with higher prices. The New T-Mobile will be incentivized to deliver more for the same or less due to having substantially more capacity and lower costs--and will face continued and likely intensified competition from Verizon, AT&T, and others. Impact on Rural Customers. A key benefit of the transaction, particularly for Sprint subscribers, will be the dramatic increase in rural 5G coverage due to the combined company's 600 MHz spectrum and the strong incentives to add customers created by the enormous capacity of the combined company's network. Because of the current geographic footprint of Sprint's network, our customers are too often forced to rely on roaming agreements for service coverage in rural areas where they cannot access our network, which are often extremely expensive and often lead to an inferior customer experience. But by adding Sprint's 2.5 GHz spectrum to T-Mobile's current spectrum portfolio, the New T-Mobile will be able to reach more rural customers and to provide rural customers with mobile and in-home broadband service at greater speeds and more consistent signal levels. The more favorable economics are not limited to wireless telephony. The new combined 5G network will have the speeds and capacity to effectively compete with in-home broadband in many areas. Rural consumers typically have only one or at most two choices for in-home broadband today. The New T-Mobile would provide another option and inject competition for the benefit of these relatively underserved rural customers. * * * In short, I truly believe that the New T-Mobile will build the best wireless network this country has ever seen, far faster than what either Sprint or T-Mobile could do on its own. To fill that new network, the New T-Mobile will have strong incentives to offer a tremendous new product at a great price. By having the best-in-class network, the new company will be able to compete for customers who have been reluctant to use Sprint or T-Mobile because of concerns that the quality of their individual networks is not as good as those offered by Verizon or AT&T. The transaction will give these customers more and better options. AT&T and Verizon have long prided themselves, and promoted themselves, as having the best network quality. With the New T-Mobile offering an unrivaled network experience, Verizon and AT&T will be forced to compete harder and invest more--and sooner--than they would absent the competitive spur of this transaction. Their increased investment will lead to more competition, better service, and more jobs, all to the benefit of American consumers. I thank the Subcommittee again for giving me the opportunity to share my perspective, and Sprint's perspective, on what will be a procompetitive merger that will benefit American consumers, American workers, and the American economy. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Mr. Claure. Mr. Shelton is now recognized for five minutes. TESTIMONY OF CHRISTOPHER SHELTON Mr. Shelton. Chair Cicilline, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner, Chair Nadler, Ranking Member Collins, Members of the Committee. My name is Chris Shelton. I am the President of the Communications Workers of America. We represent 700,000 employees in telecommunications and other industries, including more than 45,000 in the wireless industry. Let's tell it like it is. This merger would kill American jobs, depress wages, and raise prices on American consumers to enrich two foreign companies, Deutsche Telekom from Germany and SoftBank from Japan. Members of the Committee--that is economic treason. These are two of the worst companies in the United States when it comes to the treatment of workers. They ship jobs overseas and in recent years T-Mobile has been charged with more labor law violations per worker than even Walmart. Let's talk numbers. This merger would kill American jobs. We estimate that 30,000 Americans would lose their job if this merger is approved. The Wall Street firm MoffettNathanson estimates this merger would kill 20,000 jobs. Whether you take their number or ours, you should understand that T-Mobile's job creation promises are sheer fantasy. Sprint and T-Mobile compete for the same type of customers, often low-income households, which is why their stores are located near each other, sometimes right across the street. So, if the companies merge, chances are they would shut down one of the two neighboring stores and most of those workers would be out of a job. What about the people lucky enough to stay employed? The merger would drive down wages for all wireless retail workers in some cases by as much as $3,000 per year. Employers compete for skilled labor with wages and benefits. Take away competition and the remaining companies can throttle down employee's compensation while jacking up prices on consumers. Both are symptoms of the same disease, too much market power. That leads me to something I hope this Subcommittee and antitrust enforcement agencies will support. We need to include the wage and job impacts when analyzing whether a merger is anticompetitive, and we need to consider the impact of collective bargaining on jobs and wages. The last 40 years, we have seen more and more mega-mergers. Corporate profits keep climbing, productivity is going up, and executive compensation has skyrocketed, but workers' wages have not kept up. They have stagnated. Highly-concentrated markets and lack of competition are part of the reason. The weakening of unions as a powerful force to protect workers' jobs and wages is another reason for wage stagnation. As companies have gained market power through consolidation, workers have gotten weaker as a result of the war on labor. In antitrust terms, workers have lost countervailing power. Together, these two factors go far to explain why wages and living standards have stagnated for U.S. workers. They help explain the dramatic increase in income inequality in the U.S., where the top five percent of Americans control two-thirds of our nation's wealth. The good news is that America can do something about it. First, we can say no to mergers like the T-Mobile/Sprint transaction and preserve competition in consumer and labor markets. Second, we can bring back collective bargaining to protect workers, not just union Members but all workers. I have yet to hear either of these two corporate CEOs say they would remain neutral to allow their employees to decide whether to unionize, free from T-Mobile and Sprint's usual bullying tactics, intimidation, and antiunion propaganda. They simply don't want workers to have a say. If antitrust enforcement agencies and the courts can consider the consumer price impacts of a merger, they should be able to consider the impact of collective bargaining as a way to address anticompetitive effects in relevant labor markets. Finally, this merger is not only bad for workers, but it also is a disaster for consumers. T-Mobile and Sprint are each other's closest rivals, competing aggressively in particular for lower-income customers and persons of color. By eliminating this competition, economists estimate price will go up by as much as 15 percent and while these companies trumpet the alleged benefits for rural America, their own FCC filing shows that even six years after the merger, 46 million Americans, largely in rural areas, would not receive the benefits of its 5G network. Thank you, and I look forward to answering your questions. [The statement of Mr. Shelton follows:] STATEMENT OF MR. SHELTON Chairman Cicilline, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner, Chairman Nadler, Ranking Member Collins, Members of the Committee: Thank you for the opportunity to testify today. My name is Chris Shelton. I am President of the Communications Workers of America (CWA). CWA represents approximately 700,000 men and women who work in telecommunications, media, airlines, public service, and manufacturing. CWA represents more than 45,000 employees in the wireless industry.\1\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ CWA has collective bargaining agreements covering more than 45,000 AT&T Mobility employees and several Verizon Wireless units. T- Mobile employees, with CWA support, have joined together to form T- Mobile Workers United, an organization of T-Mobile and MetroPCS call center and retail employees and technicians working to improve conditions at work. As I discuss below, both T-Mobile and Sprint have a long history of violating workers' rights to form a union. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- My own experience in this industry goes back to 1968, when I was hired by New York Telephone as a technician. I've worked in telecommunications and represented telecommunications employees my entire adult life. So I know a little something about this industry. From the outset, let me be clear: This merger as currently structured would kill American jobs, lower wages, and raise prices to enrich two foreign companies, Deutsche Telekom from Germany and SoftBank from Japan. These are two companies with long histories of violating workers' rights. I will cover four areas in my testimony today: (1) Job losses from the proposed merger; (2) T-Mobile's and Sprint's long history of labor law and employment law violations; (3) the merger's likely impact on wages; and (4) the reasons consumers would be worse off if the merger takes place. Job Loss. The merger of T-Mobile and Sprint will eliminate an estimated 30,000 jobs across the county. Twenty-five thousand five hundred of those jobs would be in retail stores, some owned directly by Sprint and T-Mobile and others owned by independent retailers. The other job cuts would be in headquarters, eliminating duplicative functions.\2\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ See Fact Sheet: How The T-Mobile/Sprint Merger Will Impact Jobs, https://cwa-union.org/sites/default/files/t- mobile_sprint_merger_jobs_fact_sheet_20181126.pdf; Reply Comments of Communications Workers of America (October 31, 2018) at 5, https:// ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1031880128823/REDACTED%20-%20CWA%20T-Mobile- Sprint%20Reply%20Comments%2010-31-18.pdf (``CWA Reply Comments''); Comments of Communications Workers of America (August 27, 2018) Appendix D (describing methodology), https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/ 10827275801503/CWA%20T-Mobile-Sprint%20Comments%208-27-2018.pdf (``CWA Comments''). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sprint and T-Mobile compete with each other for the same type of customers, often low- and moderate-income households, which is why their stores are located near each other, sometimes right across the street.\3\ I attach maps of retail store locations of T-Mobile, Sprint, and their pre-paid brands Metro (T-Mobile) and Boost (Sprint) in Appendix A. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \3\ See CWA Presentation to Federal Communications Commission on Proposed Sprint/T-Mobile Merger (November 28, 2018) at 27, https:// ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/113007585462/Redacted%2011- 30%20CWA%20Ex%20Parte%20Notice%20WT%2018-197.pdf (maps showing retail footprint overlaps in New York City and Los Angeles South). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- It would make no sense for the merged company to keep all these stores open after the merger. That's not how businesses operate. Even before this merger was announced, Wall Street analysts were projecting store closures and job losses from this merger.\4\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \4\ ``Could a Sprint merger with T-Mobile kill more jobs than Sprint has?'' Chicago Tribune (October 10, 2017), https:// www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-sprint-t-mobile-merger-jobs- 20171010-story.html. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- CWA did a study, based on T-Mobile's own history and methodology, which showed the merger would result in a net job loss of:L13,700 retail workers in T-Mobile and Sprint stores; L11,800 workers in Boost and MetroPCS stores (the companies' prepaid brands); L4,500 headquarters employees.\5\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \5\ See Fact Sheet: How The T-Mobile/Sprint Merger Will Impact Jobs; CWA Reply Comments at 5; CWA Comments Appendix D (describing methodology). T-Mobile's and Sprint's track record with call center jobs is also telling. Both send a significant portion of call center work to the Philippines, Guatemala, Honduras, India, Mexico, Panama, the Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, and Canada.\6\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \6\ Fact Sheet: How The T-Mobile/Sprint Merger Will Impact Jobs; CWA Comments at 60-61. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- T-Mobile points to its 2012 acquisition of MetroPCS, and says look how many jobs that deal created. But MetroPCS was not a significant competitor. It was in a line of business that T- Mobile wanted to get into, prepaid wireless retail, and at the time of acquisition, located in only 15 markets. After the acquisition, T-Mobile grew the MetroPCS business by expanding nationwide. The job growth came from that fact, and that fact alone. More than 95 percent of MetroPCS locations are operated by authorized dealers, so when T-Mobile is claiming job growth here, almost none of that is on its direct payroll.\7\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \7\ CWA Comments at 57. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- T-Mobile's 2018 acquisition of iWireless, a regional carrier in Iowa, shows what happens to jobs when T-Mobile takes over a company that directly competes with it in the same geographic territory. The results aren't pretty. T-Mobile closed more than 72 percent of iWireless corporate stores and more than 93 percent of authorized dealer stores. T-Mobile also shuttered iWireless customer call centers in Des Moines and Cedar Rapids, Iowa. After the closures, T-Mobile left virtually no stores in rural Iowa. People would have to drive an average of 68 miles or more to get help from a retail employee.\8\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \8\ CWA, ``Disrupting Rural Wireless: How a T-Mobile Takeover Harmed Consumers and Small Businesses in Iowa'' (Feb. 2019), https:// www.tmobilesprintfacts.org/system/files/disrupting-rural-wireless- 201902.pdf. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I attach a copy of CWA's report Disrupting Rural Wireless to my testimony as Appendix B. So what is the company's response now? Under pressure, T- Mobile CEO John Legere offers vague promises that the ``New T- Mobile'' won't close any of the Boost and MetroPCS prepaid stores and that it will retain current T-Mobile employees. I can tell you that a promise to keep stores open is meaningless. A vague promise to keep employees is meaningless. Without binding and enforceable commitments--and I mean commitments that have no loopholes--such promises are just cheap sales talk and are easily broken. If it is more profitable to close stores, the ``New T-Mobile'' will close them. If it is more profitable to squeeze employees through lower wages and commissions or to lay off employees, the ``New T-Mobile'' will do so. T-Mobile and Sprint have a long history of violation of workers' rights. Both of these companies, and T-Mobile in particular, have long histories of ignoring workers' rights and violating federal labor laws. This history speaks volumes about the trustworthiness and corporate character of these companies. T-Mobile has an aggressive policy to deny employees their legal right to form a union. It has been found guilty of violating U.S. labor law six times since 2015 and has been subject to approximately 40 unfair labor practice charges since 2011. Findings of illegal activity by the federal courts, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB), and an Administrative Law Judge include, among other things: LMaintaining unlawful rules forbidding workers from speaking to each other and others about wages and working conditions (nationwide violation; U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit affirmed the Board's order).\9\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \9\ T-Mobile USA, Inc., 363 NLRB No. 171 (Apr. 29, 2016), enf'd in relevant part T-Mobile USA, Inc. v. Nat'l Labor Relations Bd., 865 F.3d 265 (5th Cir. 2017). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- LCreating, maintaining, dominating and assisting an internal organization called T-Voice to try to discourage workers from forming, joining, or supporting an independent union (nationwide violation).\10\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \10\ T-Mobile USA, Inc., JD-23-17, 2017 WL 1230099 (Apr. 3, 2017). LSurveilling and interrogating employees about union activity, restricting discussions about working conditions over social media, and prohibiting employees from sending union-related emails.\11\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \11\ T-Mobile USA, Inc., JD-57-16, 2016 WL 3537770 (June 28, 2016). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- LUnlawfully prohibiting employees from talking about the union during work time.\12\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \12\ T-Mobile USA, Inc., 365 NLRB No. 15 (Jan. 23, 2017). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- LRequiring employees, including one who filed a sexual harassment complaint, to sign an unlawful confidentiality notice prohibiting them from discussing with one another information from employer-led investigations, and threatening discipline, up to and including discharge, if they engaged in those discussions.\13\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \13\ T-Mobile USA, Inc., JD (NY)-34-15, 2015 WL 4624356 (Aug. 3, 2015), adopted by NLRB on Sept. 14, 2015. In recent years, T-Mobile has been the subject of more unfair labor practice charges per employee than any other big business in the United States, including Walmart. Sprint's violation of workers' rights dates back to the landmark La Conexion Familiar case in which Sprint fired 226 employees and closed its Spanish-language telemarketing center in San Francisco to avoid a union election.\14\ Sprint current and former workers have sued the company multiple times for alleged wage and hour violations affecting thousands of workers.\15\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \14\ CWA Comments at 67-70 (citing La Conexion Familiar and Sprint Corp., 322 NLRB No. 137 (1996)). \15\ See Cara Bayles, Sprint Inks $1.2 M Deal To End Workers' Wage And Hour Suit, Law360 (Oct. 4, 2017), https://www.law360.com/articles/ 970869/sprint-inks-1-2m-deal-to-end-workers-wage-and-hour-suit; David McAfee, $4.85 M Settlement for Sprint Workers Gets First OK, Bloomberg (Feb. 29, 2016), https://www.bna.com/485m-settlement-sprint- n57982067900/; Sprint settles overtime pay suits for $8.8 M, Kansas City Business Journal (Jan. 15, 2009), https://www.bizjournals.com/ kansascity/stories/2009/01/12/daily40.html; See Erin Marie Daly, Sprint Call Center Workers Win Back Wages, Law360 (May 21, 2009), https:// www.law360.com/texas/articles/102852/sprint-call-center-workers-win- back-wages. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- No matter how many online ``Town Hall'' pep rallies Mr. Legere stages, the facts are clear that T-Mobile does not respect the rights of its employees that are guaranteed by law. The merger will reduce wages and benefits for retail wireless workers. Permitting this merger to go through as proposed would drive down wages for all Americans who work in the wireless retail market, in some cases by as much as $3,000 per year. In recent years, economists have puzzled over a central question. Over the past three decades, productivity has gone up, corporate profits have increased, and executive compensation has skyrocketed. But workers' wages have stagnated. Wages have become detached from productivity gains.\16\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \16\ See Economic Policy Institute, ``The Productivity-Pay Gap'' (updated August 2018), https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The lack of wage growth is a persistent problem that, without question, has led to the hollowing out of the American middle class and increased income inequality. A central reason for wage stagnation is the decline in collective bargaining coverage in this country. Simply put, unions raise wages.\17\ Another reason for wage stagnation, and one that is particularly relevant to this Subcommittee, is the consolidation that has been brought about through mergers between non-union firms. Since 2008, American firms have engaged in one of the largest rounds of mergers in history.\18\ By most accounts, industries in America have become increasingly concentrated.\19\ And as industries have consolidated, labor markets have also consolidated. As the Council of Economic Advisors explained at the end of the Obama Administration: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \17\ See Economic Policy Institute, ``How Today's Union's Help Working People,'' (August 24, 2017), https://www.epi.org/publication/ how-todays-unions-help-working-people-giving-workers-the-power-to- improve-their-jobs-and-unrig-the-economy/. \18\ See ``Too Much of a Good Thing,'' The Economist, March 26, 2016, https://www .economist.com/briefing/2016/03/26/too-much-of-a- good-thing. \19\ See generally ``Is there a Concentration Problem in America?'' Stigler Center for the Study of the Economy and the State, University of Chicago Booth School of Business, https://promarket.org/wp-content/ uploads/2018/04/Is-There-a-Concentration-Problem-in-America.pdf. The presence of a limited number of firms in the market for a particular type of labor may give each of these firms some power in setting wages. For example, factory line workers have fewer opportunities to ``vote with their feet'' in a town with one manufacturing plant relative to one with many. Holding other factors equal, higher concentration in a labor market may lead to lower wages just as higher concentration in a product market often leads to higher prices.\20\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \20\ Counsel of Economic Advisors Issue Brief (October 2016), Labor Market Monopsony: Trends, Consequences, and Policy Responses, https:// obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/page/files/ 20161025_monopsony_labor_mrkt_cea.pdf, at 4. Recently, a number of economists have been measuring the impact that mergers have on wages, particularly as more industries become highly concentrated.\21\ Professor Eric Posner of the University of Chicago has observed that ``[c]oncentration is far more serious in labor markets than in product markets; wage suppression is much more significant than price inflation.'' \22\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \21\ See Ioana Elena Marinescu and Herbert J. Hovenkamp, Anticompetitive Mergers in Labor Markets (2018), Faculty Scholarship at Penn Law, https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/faculty_scholarship/1965 at 9 (``Until recently, imperfect competition in the labor market has not received much attention in antitrust enforcement. One possible reason is the belief that there are many jobs out there, so a merger is unlikely to lead to a monopsony and tosubstantially affect workers' opportunities in the labor market. However, a growing body of empirical evidence indicates that labor market monopsony is a real issue.''); See also Jose Azar, Ioana Marinescu, and Marshall Steinbaum ``Labor Market Concentration,'' National Bureau of Economic Research Working Paper No. 24147 (December 2017), National Bureau of Economic Research Working Paper No. 24147; Kevin Rinz, ``Labor Market Concentration, Earnings Inequality, and Earnings Mobility,'' CARRA Working Paper No. 2018-10 (2018), https://www.census.gov/library/working-papers/2018/adrm/carra- wp-2018-10.html. \22\ See Eric A. Posner, ``Why the FTC Should Focus on Labor Monopsony,'' https://promarket.org/ftc-should-focus-labor-monopsony/. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The antitrust agencies, under both Democratic and Republican leadership, have begun to focus on the problem of labor market power.\23\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \23\ The head of the Antitrust Division under former President Obama stated that antitrust enforcement efforts must benefit not only consumers, but ``also benefit workers, whose wages won't be driven down by dominant employers with the power to dictate terms of employment.'' Acting Assistant Attorney General Renata Hesse of the Antitrust Division Delivers Opening Remarks at 2016 Global Antitrust Enforcement Symposium (September 20, 2016), https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/ acting-assistant-attorney-general-renata-hesse-antitrust-division- delivers-opening. The current Chair of the Federal Trade Commission has directed FTC staff to include effects on the labor market in their merger investigations. See Pallavi Guniganti, ``FTC will look at labour monopsony, Hoffman says,'' Glob. Competition Review, June 8, 2018, https://globalcompetitionreview.com/article/usa/1170360/ftc-will-look- at-labour-monopsony-hoffman-says. The current head of the Antitrust Division has increased enforcement efforts directed at so-called ``no poaching'' agreements among employers. See ``US: DOJ Antitrust Division announced criminal prosecution for No Poaching agreements,'' Competition Policy International (Feb. 7, 2018), https:// www.competitionpolicyinternational.com/us-doj-antitrust-division- announced-criminal-prosecution-for-no-poaching-agreements/. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Collective bargaining can mitigate this effect.\24\ Indeed, the preamble to the National Labor Relations Act recognizes that ``protection by law of the right of employees to organize and bargain collectively'' may restore ``equality of bargaining power between employers and employees.'' \25\ In antitrust terms, collective bargaining can create countervailing power. As I have already discussed, both T-Mobile and Sprint have long histories of violating workers' rights. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \24\ Efraim Benmelech, Nittai Bergman, Hyunseob Kim, ``Strong Employers and Weak Employees: How Does Employer Concentration Affect Wages?'' National Bureau of Economic Research Working Paper No. 24307 (February 2018), https://www.nber.org/papers/w24307. \25\ See 29 U.S.C. 151. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Economic Policy Institute and the Roosevelt Institute did a study of the proposed T-Mobile and Sprint merger in order to see what impact it is likely to have on the wages of retail wireless workers.\26\ After the merger, those workers will lose one option that is available to them today about where to work. The results are instructive. According to the authors, --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \26\ ``Labor market impact of the proposed Sprint-T-Mobile merger'' (December 17, 2018), https://www.epi.org/files/pdf/159194.pdf. We find that the merger would reduce earnings in the affected labor markets. Specifically, in the 50 most affected labor markets, we predict that weekly earnings will decline by $63 on average (across markets) using the specification with the largest magnitude, and $10 on average using the smallest magnitude specification. These weekly earnings declines correspond to annual earnings declines of as high as $3,276 (or $520 under the smallest-magnitude specification).\27\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \27\ Id. at 1. To put this finding in context, it means that the proposed merger could lead to an aggregate annual earnings reduction of between $82.8 million and $543.6 million for the roughly 220,000 retail wireless workers in the United States.\28\ This would be nothing other than a transfer of wealth from workers to corporate owners, pure and simple. Importantly, these and other researchers have also found that unionization mitigates the earnings-reducing effect of concentration.\29\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \28\ See CWA Notice of Ex Parte Meeting, March 1, 2019, https:// ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1030225339358/CWA%20Ex%20Parte%20%202-27-19.pdf, at 4. \29\ Efraim Benmelech, Nittai Bergman, Hyunseob Kim, ``Strong Employers and Weak Employees: How Does Employer Concentration Affect Wages?'' National Bureau of Economic Research Working Paper No. 24307 (February 2018), https://www.nber.org/papers/w24307. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I attach a copy of the EPI/Roosevelt Institute study entitled ``Labor market impact of the proposed Sprint-T-Mobile merger'' to my testimony as Appendix C. The Merger Would Harm Consumers with Higher Prices. Finally, I want to spend just a small amount of time on how and why the proposed merger would be bad for consumers. A few years ago, SoftBank (the parent company of Sprint) approached Assistant Attorney General William Baer of the U.S. Department of Justice Antitrust Division and Chairman Tom Wheeler of the Federal Communications Commission about a possible deal with T-Mobile. Both of these officials made it crystal clear to Sprint's owners not to push ahead with it. As Baer and Wheeler put it, ``The idea of eliminating a pesky rival may have made sense for Sprint. But not for the American consumer.'' Sprint reluctantly ditched the idea.\30\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \30\ Bill Baer and Tom Wheeler, ``Here's who loses big time if Sprint and T-Mobile are allowed to merge,'' CNBC (May 19, 2017), https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/19/heres-who-loses-big-time-if-sprint-and- t-mobile-are-allowed-to-merge-commentary.html. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sprint and T-Mobile are each other's closest competitors. Their prepaid brands, in particular, compete aggressively for lower-income customers and persons of color in large, urban U.S. markets.\31\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \31\ See Reply to Opposition by Free Press (October 31, 2018), at 2, 14-18, https://www .freepress.net/sites/default/files/2018-11/ redacted_mobile_sprint_reply_comments_free _press.pdf. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- While these companies trumpet the alleged benefits of this merger for rural America, data in their own FCC filings show the contrary. Even six years after a T-Mobile/Sprint merger, 46 million Americans--which include most of the merged company's rural customers--would not receive the benefits of its next- generation 5G network. Rather, they would be forced to settle for a service that has significantly lower performance than the urban and suburban parts of the network. The ``digital divide'' between urban and rural America is likely to get worse, not better.\32\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \32\ CWA Comments at 47-52 and Appendix A: Declaration of Andrew Afflerbach, Ph.D., P.E. (``[B]ased on my review of the information presented in the Applicant's [Public Interest] Statement, the merged New T-Mobile would only provide marginally better broadband options than stand-alone T-Mobile in much of rural America.''). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I attach a copy of the Declaration of Dr. Andrew Afflerbach analyzing the impact of the proposed T-Mobile/Sprint merger on rural America to my testimony as Appendix D. Last time I checked, the antitrust laws and the requirements under the Communications Act have not changed. Congress has not repealed them. And keep in mind, the antitrust laws are laws, they are not just recommendations or suggestions. A merger that was presumptively unlawful in 2015 or 2016 is presumptively unlawful today. Our economy is at a crossroads. We as a Nation must decide whether we will permit the inexorable drive towards corporate consolidation and concentrated power at the expense of employees, customers, communities, and our economy. This bad deal is not saved by 5G, 6G or 7G. It is not saved because the next technological development is on the horizon. It is not saved by speculating about competition with cable companies. This deal, if it goes ahead, will destroy 30,000 American jobs and hurt consumers. The harms are real. The alleged benefits are pure sales talk. This merger would kill American jobs and raise prices for consumers to benefit two foreign companies, Deutsche Telekom from Germany and SoftBank from Japan. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to testify. [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Mr. Shelton. Ms. Sohn is now recognized for five minutes. TESTIMONY OF GIGI SOHN Ms. Sohn. Chair Cicilline, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner, Chair Nadler, Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for inviting me to testify today. When I was working for Chair Wheeler in 2014, executives from T-Mobile, Sprint, and SoftBank visited the FCC several times to get his thoughts on a possible merger between T-Mobile and Sprint. Chair Wheeler didn't discourage the parties from seeking merger approval, but he was clear that they would have a tough time showing that the merger wouldn't be anticompetitive. A pioneer in the wireless industry, Chair Wheeler had seen immense consolidation from 2003 to 2013, the country's eight mobile wireless carriers shrunk to just four. He believed strongly that reducing the number of wireless carriers from four to three would harm consumers through higher prices, coordinated effects, and less innovation. Bill Baer, the Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust at the time, agreed and said so publicly in January 2014. Later that year, after the parties abandoned the deal, Chair Wheeler said, ``Four national wireless providers are good for American consumers. Sprint now has an opportunity to focus their efforts on robust competition.'' Nothing in the intervening five years has altered the previous analysis that this combination would be harmful for consumers and the wireless industry. T-Mobile and Sprint occupy vital roles in today's national wireless market. Both are mavericks who forced AT&T and Verizon to lower their prices and to adopt more consumer-friendly service plans. T-Mobile was the first carrier to eliminate two-year contracts and provide unlimited data. T-Mobile and Sprint were the first to allow subscribers to unlock their phones. Both companies fought to match AT&T and Verizon in coverage, speed, and reliability. Importantly, the companies compete to the benefit of the value-conscious consumer. This dynamic will change if the companies are allowed to merge. With a market share similar to AT&T and Verizon, New T- Mobile would have reduced incentives to engage in price and non-price competition as well as greater incentive and ability to cooperate with those companies to raise consumer and wholesale prices. Indeed, one analysis found that consumer price increases from this transaction could be as much as 15 percent. The merging parties don't dispute that prices will rise but argue that improvements to the service quality, no matter how small, will be worth the extra cost. That is a dicey proposition for consumers that are attracted to T-Mobile and Sprint because of their cheaper postpaid innovative prepaid services. These higher prices will have a disproportionate effect on consumers of prepaid service who tend to be low-income and people of color. This merger would result in New T-Mobile controlling about 43 percent of prepaid market and the market for prepaid services would shrink from three to two. The merging parties recognize these price increases but argue that low-income consumers will accept them because they, and I quote, ``heavily rely on their smart phone for their communication and media consumption.'' That is quite a remarkable thing to say about consumers for whom an extra $10 a month would be an unwelcomed hardship. The harm from four to three mobile wireless mergers is clear. In both the Netherlands and Austria, four to three mergers saddle consumers with double-digit price increases. In both cases, one of the remaining carriers was a T-Mobile affiliate. In the U.S. similar concerns over higher prices and the elimination of competition moved the DOJ to sue to block the proposed AT&T/T-Mobile merger in 2011. Faced with overwhelming evidence that four to three mergers and this particular merger will lead to higher prices, T-Mobile has twice promised the FCC not to raise prices on its rate plans for three years. The mere fact that T-Mobile believes it must make this so-called pricing commitment is an admission that post-merger there would not be enough competition in the wireless market to constrain price increases. It also undermines the parties insistence that the merged entity would have so much capacity that it wouldn't raise prices. Regardless, the pricing commitment is riddled with ambiguities and loopholes. Neither the FCC nor the DOJ is capable of overseeing this kind of price regulation. My written testimony argues that the purported benefits of this merger, faster 5G roll-out, increased rural coverage, and more jobs, are speculative, non-merger-specific, and non- cognizable, in any event wouldn't outweigh the merger's harms. I will add T-Mobile's recent promise that it will provide in-home broadband to a fraction of U.S. homes by 2024. I would love to see more competition to big cable, but in addition to being too far in the future to be relevant to antitrust scrutiny, this promise has absolutely nothing to do with the market that is the subject of this merger: the market for national mobile wireless services. I am a proud T-Mobile customer and a fan of both its CEO and its Government Relations Team, but I am not a fan of this merger because the harms to consumers who value low-cost and innovative service plans far outweigh the supposed benefits. Thank you, and I look forward to your questions. [The statement of Ms. Sohn follows:] STATEMENT OF MS. SOHN Chairman Cicilline, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner and Members of the Subcommittee. My name is Gigi Sohn. I am a Distinguished Fellow with the Georgetown Institute for Technology Law and Policy and a Benton Senior Fellow and Public Advocate. I served as Counselor to former Federal Communications Commission (``FCC'') Chairman Tom Wheeler from November 2013 to December 2016. In 2011, as President and CEO of Public Knowledge, I testified alongside then-Sprint CEO Dan Hesse at a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee's Antitrust Subcommittee in opposition to the proposed AT&T-T-Mobile merger. Thank you for inviting me to testify today on the proposed merger of Sprint and T-Mobile. Introduction: The Sprint T-Mobile Merger: Wrong Then and Now When I was working for Chairman Wheeler in the spring and summer of 2014, executives from T-Mobile, Sprint and Softbank visited the Commission on several occasions to get Chairman Wheeler's thoughts on a possible merger between T-Mobile and Sprint. These meetings included on at least one occasion, a detailed Power Point presentation on the alleged merits of the transaction. Chairman Wheeler did not discourage T-Mobile and Sprint from seeking FCC approval of the merger, but he was clear that the parties would have a difficult time convincing him that such a merger would not be anticompetitive. As pioneer and an entrepreneur in the mobile wireless industry, Chairman Wheeler had seen firsthand immense consolidation in the industry: from 2003-2013, the country's 8 mobile wireless carriers were reduced to just 4. While he believed then that that the mobile wireless industry had already gotten too consolidated, he also believed strongly that further reducing the number of national wireless carriers from 4 to 3 would harm consumers through higher prices, coordinated effects and less innovation. In August 2014, following news that the parties had abandoned the deal, Chairman Wheeler issued the following statement: ``Four national wireless providers are good for American consumers. Sprint now has an opportunity to focus their efforts on robust competition.'' \1\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ Brian Fung, Why regulators are the big winners in the failed Sprint-T-Mobile deal, Washington Post, August 6, 2014 found at https:// www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/08/06/why-regulators- are-the-big-winners-in-the-failed-sprint-t-mobile-deal/?utm_term= .69e1ef0f8f16. Chairman Wheeler was correct then to think that such a merger would be anticompetitive. Nothing in the intervening 5 years has altered the analysis that this combination would be harmful. Today, the proposed Sprint T-Mobile merger would be just as bad for consumers and the wireless industry.\2\ It would concentrate market power in the hands of three behemoth wireless companies, driving up prices and reducing innovation. The history of 4-to-3 mergers in the mobile wireless industry in Europe is instructive here--in each case, consumers have had to bear the brunt of significant price increases. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ Chairman Wheeler, and Bill Baer, who was the Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust under President Obama agree, writing in a 2017 editorial that ``the merger made no sense before, and it makes no sense today.'' Bill Baer and Tom Wheeler, Here's Who Loses Big Time if Sprint and T-Mobile are Allowed to Merge, CNBC, May 19, 2017) found at https:/ /www .cnbc.com/2017/05/19/heres-who-loses-big-time-if-sprint-and-t- mobile-are-allowed-to-merge-commentary.html. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The merging parties allege a number of benefits that they say will result from this merger: faster 5G buildout, increased rural buildout and more jobs. But these purported benefits are speculative, non-cognizable and not specific to this merger, and in any event do not outweigh the harms to consumers and competition that would result from this transaction. For these reasons, and the reasons described by my colleagues on this panel and in the FCC's record, the Members of this Committee should urge the Department of Justice (``DOJ'') and the FCC to block this transaction. I. Merger of T-Mobile and Sprint Will Substantially Lessen Competition in the National Mobile Wireless/Broadband Market The proposed merger of T-Mobile and Sprint into a New T- Mobile is a classic 4-to-3 horizontal merger that will lead to fewer choices, higher prices, and less consumer-friendly service offerings. The New T-Mobile would combine two maverick firms that have, for the past 8 years, forced the two largest mobile wireless carriers, Verizon and AT&T, to lower their prices and adopt more consumer-friendly service offerings. For example, T- Mobile, the ``Un-Carrier,'' was the first to eliminate two-year contracts and to provide unlimited data and creative family plans. T-Mobile and Sprint were the first carriers to allow subscribers to unlock their phones. Sprint proudly took a chainsaw to its competitor Verizon's bills and offered to cut those costs in half. Both companies have fought to match AT&T and Verizon in coverage, speed and reliability. T-Mobile and Sprint have promoted themselves as low-cost providers and currently offer the cheapest data plans of the 4 nationwide mobile wireless carriers. As such, T-Mobile and Sprint have competed vigorously with each other as well, to the benefit of the ``value consumer'' seeking better rates and service plans. Just as important, the competition between Sprint and T-Mobile has had a moderating effect on AT&T and Verizon, forcing them to respond with lower prices and more attractive service options. All of this competition has benefitted consumers. If allowed to proceed, this merger would result in a New T- Mobile with a market share closer to that of AT&T and Verizon. As a result, New T-Mobile would have reduced incentives to engage in price and non-price competition, as well as a greater incentive and ability to cooperate and collude with those companies to raise both consumer and wholesale prices. The remaining three network operators would each have the incentive to raise prices unilaterally and also to substantially increase the maximum price that carriers will be willing to initiate and match. Indeed, one analysis found that this transaction ``will result in [consumer] price increases of up to 15%.'' \3\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \3\ Petition to Deny of Dish Network Corporation in the Matter of Applications of T-Mobile U.S., Inc. and Sprint Corporation (filed August 27, 2018) at 11. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The merging parties don't dispute that prices will go up, but argue instead without proof that the improvements to the quality of their service, no matter how minimal, will be worth the significant extra cost. That is a dicey proposition for the value and low-income consumers that are most attracted to T- Mobile and Sprint because of their less expensive postpaid and their innovative prepaid services. These higher prices will have a disproportionate effect on customers of prepaid service, who tend to be low income customers and people of color. This merger would combine T- Mobile's Metro PCS and Sprint's Boost Mobile and Virgin Mobile Services, resulting in New T-Mobile controlling an estimated 43% percent of the pre-paid market.\4\ Since Verizon has negligible pre-paid service, this merger would for all intents and purposes shrink the market for facilities-based prepaid wireless services from 3 to 2. The economists for the merging parties recognize that such concentration is likely to lead to higher prices for low income consumers, but argues that such consumers will be more willing to stomach price increases because they ``heavily rely on their smartphone for their communication and media consumption.'' \5\ That's a remarkable statement for a segment of Americans for whom an extra $10 a month might mean missing a few meals to pay their cell phone bills. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \4\ Anna-Maria Kovacs, Competition in the U.S. Wireless Service Market at 6 (August 2018) found at https://cbpp.georgetown.edu/sites/ default/files/Policy%20Paper%20-%20Kovacs%20- %20Wireless%20Competition%202018-08.pdf. \5\ Letter from Nancy Victory, Counsel for T-Mobile, to Marlene Dortch FCC, Attachment A at 18, (December 18, 2018). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Many of the same concerns that caused the DOJ to file suit to enjoin the proposed AT&T-T-Mobile merger are present here. Like AT&T-T-Mobile, this merger will shrink the already concentrated mobile wireless market from 4 to 3 players. Like AT&T-T-Mobile, this merger will lead to higher prices and fewer innovative service offerings. Like AT&T-T-Mobile, this merger would eliminate actual and potential competition between the two merging firms. Instead of combining one maverick firm with a large incumbent, it combines two remaining maverick firms, making disruption less likely and coordination more likely. Moreover, this transaction would lead to unprecedented spectrum concentration: It will cause New T-Mobile to exceed the FCC's spectrum screen in 532 Cellular Market Areas (``CMAs''), almost double the number of the proposed AT&T-T-Mobile transaction.\6\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \6\ Petition to Deny of DISH Network Corporation in the Matter of Applications of T-Mobile U.S., Inc. and Sprint Corporation (filed August 27, 2018) at 71 (``Second, Brattle finds that New T-Mobile would be over the screen threshold in 1,996 out of the nation's 3,221 counties, or in 532 CMAs, covering all of the top 100 markets. By comparison, the rejected AT&T/T-Mobile merger would have caused AT&T to exceed the screen in 274 CMAs. New T-Mobile would be over the screen across 90.2% of the country's population and almost half of its land area.'') (internal citations omitted). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evidence from previous 4-to-3 mobile wireless mergers in Europe confirm the harms to consumers. In the Netherlands, the European Commission found that the 4-to-3 merger of T-Mobile Nederland and Orange in that country resulted in price increases of between 10% and 17% compared to control countries.\7\ In Austria, a merger of Orange Austria and H3G Austria also resulted in 4-to-3 consolidation. While the European Commission imposed a facilities-based condition to approving the merger, those conditions didn't materialize, and the spectrum intended for the new entrant reverted to H3G. As a result, consumers suffered a 14-20% increase from that merger.\8\ This example is especially instructive because one of the three remaining players was T-Mobile's affiliate, T- Mobile Austria. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \7\ European Commission, Ex post analysis of two telecom mergers: T-Mobile/tele.ring in Australia and T-Mobile/Orange in the Netherlands found at https://www.rtr.at/de/inf/Analysis _mobile_mergers/Ex-ost_ analysis_of_two_mobile_telecom_mergers.pdf. \8\ Id. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, a recent study by Rewheel Research looked at European markets and found that ``the median gigabyte price in 3 [Mobile Network Operator] markets is 2 higher than in 4 [Mobile Network Operator markets].'' \9\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \9\ Rewheel/research, The State of 4G pricing--2H2018, found at http://research.rewheel.fi/downloads/ The_state_of_4G_pricing_DFMonitor_10th_release_2H2018_PUBLIC.pdf. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- II. The Parties' Pricing Commitment Is No Commitment at All, but Instead Is an Admission That There Will Be No Constraints on Pricing if This Merger Is Consummated In response to the consensus that the proposed merger will lead to higher prices, T-Mobile's counsel submitted an open letter to the FCC offering a ``pricing commitment'' that would maintain existing T-Mobile and Sprint ``rate plans'' for three years. Then, when merger opponents pointed out that the so- called ``commitment'' was riddled with ambiguities and loopholes, T-Mobile filed another 8-page letter attempting to ``simplify'' the offer. First and foremost, the fact that T-Mobile had to file two letters with the FCC to explain its pricing commitment is an admission that post-merger, there would not be enough competition in the wireless market to constrain price increases. In its effort to simplify the pricing commitment, T-Mobile actually sows more confusion. T-Mobile originally promised that ``T-Mobile and Sprint legacy rate plans will continue as New T- Mobile plans for three years after the merger or until better plans that offer a lower price or more data are made available, whichever occurs first.\10\ In its second letter, T-Mobile explains that a ``better plan'' is ``the same plan with a lower price; the same plan with more data for the same price; or the same plan with a lower price and more data.'' \11\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \10\ Letter from Nancy Victory, T-Mobile Counsel, to Marlene Dortch, FCC at 4, WT Docket No. 18-197 (Feb 4, 2019). \11\ Letter from Nancy Victory, T-Mobile Counsel, to Marlene Dortch, FCC at 3, WT Docket No. 18-197 (Feb. 12, 2019). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- But this begs any number of questions: What does ``same plan'' mean? What does ``same price'' mean? When does a plan become different? Would a different price per month be considered the same price if the customer receives some non- monetary benefit? Moreover, this new filing does nothing to ameliorate concerns that this ``commitment'' is anything but. In addition to being time limited at 3 years, the pricing plan still has significant loopholes that could allow New T-Mobile to raise prices on consumers, including: increased prices through handset or device costs increased prices through any manner of unnamed additional fees and surcharges increased prices to offset claimed costs increased from ``third party partners'' or cancellation of benefits (like T-Mobile's free subscription to Netflix) from those partners There are still many ways that New T-Mobile could exploit these loopholes,\12\ for example: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \12\ For a non-exhaustive list of examples, see Letter from Pantelis Michalopolous, Counsel to DISH Network to Marlene Dortch, FCC at 4-6, WT Docket No. 18-197 (Feb. 7, 2019). Make it more difficult to upgrade devices Increase the cost to purchase or upgrade to a new phone Increase the down payment for a new phone Remove the ability to use the phone as a hotspot The ambiguities and opportunities for evasion in this kind of behavioral remedy (price regulation) would require strong government oversight that is generally disfavored by antitrust authorities. As Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust Makan Delrahim has explained: ``In telecommunications, as in other industries, we strongly favor structural remedies. If a structural remedy isn't available, then, except in the rarest of circumstances, we will seek to block an illegal merger.'' \13\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \13\ Assistant Attorney General Makan Delrahim Delivers Remarks at the Federal Telecommunications Institute's Conference in Mexico City (Nov. 7, 2018) found at https://www .justice.gov/opa/speech/assistant- attorney-general-makan-delrahim-delivers-remarks-federal-institute. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The challenges inherent in government oversight of behavioral remedies--and specifically price regulation-- manifested itself just last month, when the European Commission alleged that Telefonica Deutschland breached its commitment to offer wholesale 4G services to all interested parties at ``best prices,'' as part of its acquisition of E-plus, the German mobile telecommunications business of Dutch Telecom operator KPN. This too, occurred in the aftermath of a 4-to-3 merger. III. The Purported Benefits of This Merger are Speculative, Non-Merger Specific and Non-Recognizable, and Would not Outweigh Its Harms In recognition of the harms that this transaction will bring to consumers and competition, the merging parties allege three benefits to this merger: Better rollout of 5G services, greater rural coverage and an increase in jobs. But the parties have failed to show either that these benefits will ever materialize or that they are specific to this merger. Nor have they shown that the benefits will outweigh the harm to consumers and competition that would result from this transaction. A. 5G Deployment Is Already Happening and Will Continue Rapidly With or Without This Merger The merging parties alternatively make two claims--that this transaction is necessary to accelerate the rollout of new 5G wireless services (and therefore make the U.S. the leader in 5G connectivity) and also that neither company alone has the wherewithal to build a nationwide 5G network. Neither of these claims are true. With regard to whether this merger is necessary to speed the deployment of 5G and win the so-called ``race'' to 5G (presumably with China), AT&T responded in its comments to the FCC on the merger applications that: ``In fact, the U.S. is already the world leader in 5G, and AT&T and the other major facilities based wireless carriers are in the midst of a race to deploy next generation 5G services--a race that began long before T-Mobile and Sprint announced their merger plans.'' U.S. Policymakers like FCC Chairman Pai and Commissioner Carr have also boasted that the U.S. is the world leader in 5G deployment. A study released late last month by ABI Research, which provides analysis on transformative technologies, found that as a result of the financial health of the four nationwide carriers and forward-looking FCC policies, the U.S. is currently the leader in 5G rollout and will continue to be for at least two years.\14\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \14\ ABI Research, 5G in the United States, 1Q 2019, found at https://www.abiresearch.com/market-research/product/1031420-5g-in-the- united-states/. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- But don't just take it from AT&T, FCC Commissioners and expert analysts. Listen to the merging parties' representatives themselves and what they said prior to the merger about their ability and timing to build new 5G networks. Prior to the merger announcement in February 2018, T-Mobile stated that it ``will be the first to give customers the truly transformative, nationwide 5G network they deserve[.]'' \15\ It also announced that it would accelerate its 600 MHz rollout in 2018, while laying the foundation for the country's first nationwide 5G network by 2020. In its annual 10-K filing for 2017, T-Mobile explained that it is ``rapidly preparing for the next generation of 5G services'' by creating a ``network that will allow us to deliver innovative new products and services with the same customer focused and industry disrupting mentality that has redefined wireless service in the United States.\16\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \15\ Ericsson and T-Mobile to Deploy Multiband Nationwide 5G Network (Feb. 27, 2018) found at https://www.prnewswire.com/news- releases/ericsson-and-t-mobile-to-deploy-multi-band-nationwide-5g- network-300605069.html. \16\ T-Mobile USA, Inc. Form 10K For the Year Ended December 31, 2017 at 13, found at https://s22.q4cdn.com/194431217/files/ doc_financials/2017/annual/1500109984.pdf?O=PDF &T=&Y=&D=&FID=1500109984&iid=4091145. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just two weeks ago, at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Sprint announced that it would be the first company to provide ``mass market'' 5G mobile services in 4 major cities (Dallas, Atlanta, Chicago and Kansas City) this May, with another 5 cities (Washington, DC, Phoenix, Los Angeles, New York and Houston) starting in June.\17\ In addition, the company's CEO has boasted that it has ``the BEST spectrum and assets to build an incredible nationwide #5G network that our customers will love.'' \18\ It said pre-merger that ``I have never seen a company with such a rich spectrum which is a sweet spot for 5G, I guess that gives us a tremendous opportunity for the years to come.'' \19\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \17\ Eli Blumenthal, Sprint's 5G Network will go live this May in Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas and Kansas City, USA Today (Feb. 25, 2019) found at https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2019/02/25/sprint-5-g- network-goes-live-in-may-in-four-cities/2973150002/. \18\ Marcelo Claure (@marceloclaure) Twitter (Mar. 9 2018 12:24 p.m.). \19\ Transcript, Sprint Presentation at Deutsche Bank Leveraged Finance Conference, Fair Disclosure Wire (Oct. 2, 2018). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Both companies are independently putting their money where their mouths are by heavily investing in 5G deployments. Both companies each have already committed to investing $5-6 billion annually until 2020 into their respective 5G deployments. In fact, their projected combined spend is roughly the sum of what each intended to spend on its own. Evidence in the record indicates that the companies aren't admitting how much it will cost for New T-Mobile to upgrade to 5G: Independent analysis suggests it will cost more than if Sprint did it alone. B. The Companies' Claims That the Rural Americans Will Benefit are Unsubstantiated The merging companies claim that if allowed to merge, rural Americans will ``win big.'' But the companies provide little support for this assertion other than hand-waving. T-Mobile's owned LTE facilities currently serve 83.1% of the rural U.S. population, while Sprint serves just 56.2%. So, adding Sprint to the New T-Mobile adds nothing to T-Mobile's current rural coverage. Having spent nearly $8 billion to buy low band spectrum at the FCC's incentive auction in 2017, T-Mobile already has plans to extend its reach in rural areas. Importantly, this coverage doesn't include whatever spectrum T-Mobile may buy at upcoming auctions. Even as the carriers move to 5G, the claim that rural coverage will significantly increase is unsubstantiated. First, the parties can't seem to make up their minds whether Sprint will help T-Mobile's rural 5G coverage at all. On the one hand, the parties claim that Sprint's 2.5 GHz spectrum will enhance rural deployment for New T-Mobile. On the other hand, they argue that Sprint's 2.5 GHz spectrum is inadequate and that Sprint, standing alone, will ``not be a major competitor in most of rural America in the foreseeable future.'' \20\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \20\ Applications of T-Mobile US, Inc. and Sprint Corporation for Consent to Transfer Control of Licenses and Authorizations, WT Docket 18-197 at 65 (June 18, 2018). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, and perhaps most important, the merging parties, like their national mobile wireless/broadband brethren, understate the challenges and costs of bringing 5G connectivity to rural areas. In places where population density is low and the challenges of steep terrain and thick fauna are high, deployment is both a technological challenge and expensive and revenues are hard to come by.\21\ Moreover, the high speed ``special access'' lines needed to bring 5G connectivity to rural America are also expensive and largely in the control of 3 companies--AT&T, Verizon and Century Link. Indeed, because of the cost of these broadband data services and other infrastructure, many rural areas still don't yet have 4G connectivity. Policymakers should be extremely wary of any promise to bring 5G to significant parts rural America in the absence of significant subsidies any time soon, if ever. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \21\ See generally, Larry Thompson and Warren Vande Stadt, 5G Is Not the Answer for Rural Broadband, Broadband Communities (March/April 2017) found at https://www.bbcmag.com/rural-broadband/5g-is-not-the- answer-for-rural-broadband. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- C. The Entire Point of a Merger Is To Lower Costs and Create Efficiencies, Which Necessarily Include Eliminating Jobs On the question of whether this merger will result in more jobs, I defer to the testimony of Chris Shelton, the President of the Communications Workers of America, as well as CWA's comprehensive filings at the FCC, for a full accounting of the number and types of jobs that will be lost as a result of this merger. The numbers are significant--CWA estimates that 30,000 jobs will be lost. I wish only to note that significant numbers of new jobs rarely, if ever come from massive mergers of this kind. Like other merging parties, T-Mobile and Sprint boasted when the deal was first announced that the combined companies will have ``lower costs, greater economies of scale'' and ``cost synergies.'' The way that most merging companies achieve these goals is by eliminating redundancies, which typically means cutting jobs, among other things. One needn't be an economist to figure out that duplicative retail stores and call centers will be closed and that there is no need for two sets of middle managers and C-Suite executives.\22\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \22\ While T-Mobile has promised to open 5 new call centers housing 1,000 new employees each, this seems no more than a desperate PR stunt to win political support. T-Mobile may call these ``additional'' jobs, but they fail to say is how many call center and other jobs will be lost if the transaction is approved. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- VI. Sprint Is Neither a Failing nor Even an Ailing Firm It is axiomatic that companies seeking to merge will tell regulators in Washington, DC one thing and Wall Street another. In September 2018, Sprint told the FCC, among other things, that ``[d]espite achieving substantial cost reductions and stabilizing its financial position, Sprint has not been able to turn the corner with respect to its core business challenges . . . . Sprint tried a more localized approach in an attempt to drive growth, but continues to face declining subscribers and revenue[.]'' \23\ Just 3 months later, Sprint issued a year-end press release touting ``a banner year for the Sprint network'' in which it made ``a massive investment to drive strong improvements in our network performance.'' \24\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \23\ Letter from Regina M. Keeney, Counsel for Sprint Corp., to Marlene Dortch, FCC, WT Docket 18-197, Attachment C at 2 (Sept. 25 2018). \24\ Dr. John Saw, Celebrating a Year of Sprint Milestones on our Path to 5G (Dec. 18, 2018) found at https://newsroom.sprint.com/2018- milestones-on-path-to-5g.htm. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- One need only look at what Sprint told Wall Street earlier this year, through its recently released earnings from the 3rd quarter of 2018, to see that it is not only not a ``failing firm'' for purposes of scrutinizing a merger, it isn't even ailing. In fact, Sprint is about as healthy a company as it has been in many years. As Sprint CEO Michel Combes said on January 31, ``[w]e delivered solid financials, increased network investments as we prepare for our mobile 5G launch, and the continued digital transformation of our company.'' \25\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \25\ Sprint Reports Continued Year-Over-Year Growth In Wireless Service Revenue With Fiscal Year 2018 Third Quarter Results (Jan. 31, 2019) (``Sprint Q3 2018 Report'') found at https:// investors.sprint.com/news-and-events/press-releases/press-release- details/2019/Sprint-Reports-Continued-Year-Over-Year-Growth-In- Wireless-Service-Revenue-With-Fiscal-Year-2018-Third-Quarter-Results/ default.aspx. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sprint's Q3 results showed, among other things, its second consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth in wireless service revenue and its sixth consecutive quarter of postpaid additions. The number of postpaid additions in the quarter were 309,000, an improvement of 53,000 year-over-year.\26\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \26\ Sprint Q3 2018 Report, supra. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- In addition, Sprint's postpaid service revenue grew year- over-year for the first time in five years and its pre-paid service revenue grew year-over-year for the fifth consecutive quarter. The company also reported its 12th consecutive quarter of operating income and the highest fiscal third quarter adjusted EBITDA (Earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortization) in 12 years.\27\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \27\ Sprint Q3 2018 Report, supra. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sprint's quarterly network investments of $1.4 billion more than doubled year-over-year and increased approximately $150 million ``as the company made continued progress on executing its Next-Gen Network plan.'' \28\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \28\ Sprint Q3 2018 Report, supra. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The merger proponents, however, point to negative adjusted free cash flow of $908 million Sprint reported for Q3. But this was primarily due to ramped up capital investment of $1.4 billion. In fact, in the immediate prior quarter (FY Q2 2018), Sprint reported a positive cash flow of $525 million. Despite this recent drawdown, Sprint currently has almost $9 billion of liquidity, including $6.8 billion in cash.\29\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \29\ Sprint Corporation (S) Q3 2018 Earnings Conference Call Transcript (Jan. 31, 2019) found at https://www.fool.com/investing/ 2019/01/31/sprint-corporation-s-q3-2018-earnings-conference-c.aspx. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, Sprint hasn't acknowledged the additional measures that could be used to strengthen the company's financial position even further. For example, Sprint's owner SoftBank holds more than $31 billion (more than 3 trillion yen) in cash and cash equivalents across its portfolio that can be invested into Sprint.\30\ SoftBank's Vision Fund has more than $90 billion (10 trillion yen) in capital from both SoftBank and third parties, which it uses to invest in cutting-edge technology companies.\31\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \30\ SoftBank Group Corp., Annual Report FY 2018 at 1 (July 20, 2018) found at https://cdn.group.softbank/en/corp/set/data/irinfo/ financials/annual_reports/pdf/2018/soft_bank _annual_report_2018_001.pdf.. \31\ SoftBank Group Corp., Consolidated Financial Report For the Three-month Period Ended June 30, 2018 at 22 (Aug. 6, 2018) found at https://cdn.group.softbank/en/corp/set/data/irinfo/financials/ financial_reports/pdf/2019/softbank_results_2019q1_001.pdf. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Policymakers should absolutely believe what Sprint has told Wall Street--its financial picture gets brighter with each quarter, and its continuing network improvements will take the company to even greater success in the future as a stand-alone firm. Conclusion I am a proud and loyal T-Mobile customer and a big fan of both its CEO and its Government Relations staff. I'm not a fan of this merger, because the harms to consumers who value good service and innovative service plans far outweigh the supposed benefits. Thank you again for inviting me to testify. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Ms. Sohn. I now recognize Ms. Scurato for five minutes. TESTIMONY OF CARMEN SCURATO Ms. Scurato. Chair Cicilline, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner, Chair Nadler, and Subcommittee Members, thank you for having me. My name is Carmen Scurato, and I am a Senior Policy Counsel at Free Press with 1.4 million Members across all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. We strongly oppose this merger. Free Press's extensive research shows the disproportionate harms it would cause to low-income communities and people of color who are more likely to be on the wrong side of the digital divide and more often rely on mobile phones for their only means of connecting to the internet. While my organization signed protective orders at the FCC to assess the merger applicants' data and claims, I am not a signatory. That means everything I say today is based on publicly available data, but let me be clear. No matter where we look, nothing about this deal's benefits, all of which are speculative and unenforceable, offsets its immediate and permanent harms. Sprint and T-Mobile and their prepaid brands, Boost, Virgin, and Metro, are the dominant providers of mobile service for low-income people. More than 30 percent of Metro and Boost subscribers report yearly incomes of $25,000 or less. Due to structural and systemic racism, people of color are disproportionately represented in these demographics. T-Mobile and Sprint customers are far more likely to be people of color than are AT&T and Verizon's. Fifty-six percent of T-Mobile subscribers in 2018 identified as people of color as did 45 percent of Sprint's. The reason that Members of these communities choose Sprint and T-Mobile is very clear. Their plans cost less. As our research confirms, these two carriers compete with one another vigorously. They are each other's closest competitors. They serve price-conscious customers that AT&T and Verizon are content and able to ignore. Both T-Mobile and Sprint have been mavericks, taking customers from each other and from the Big 2 carriers, as well, after the government rejected previously proposed horizontal mergers, like this one. My full testimony touches on T-Mobile's inflated 5G efficiency claims and exaggerated rumors of Sprint's death used to justify this deal, but I will focus my remaining time on three facts illustrating the harms to these most impacted communities. First, no matter how antitrust enforcers define the product markets, this deal would consolidate already highly- concentrated markets and it would eliminate choice for customers who want or need to pay less for essential communication services. Our FCC filings document how T-Mobile and Sprint's prepaid and postpaid brands compete, countering each other's innovations and offers in ways that benefit price-conscious customers and exert some discipline on Verizon and AT&T, as well. T-Mobile and Sprint both offer lower-priced options than their larger rivals. Don't believe the parties' funny math suggesting that having fewer competitors somehow strengthens competition. This is a four to three merger nationally and closer to a three to two in the prepaid market. It would reduce choice for all lower-priced plans that don't require customers to pass discriminatory credit checks or finance devices through the carrier. Second, the merger would increase prices. In their filings, Sprint and T-Mobile don't even hide the likelihood that prices would go up for their postpaid and prepaid customers alike. That is right. Their own economic models say prices would go up. T-Mobile's price pledge is riddled with loopholes and does nothing to allay this concern. T-Mobile announced that legacy plans would continue, and I quote, ``for three years or until better plans that offer a lower price or more data are made available.'' This mockery of a promise is meaningless. Prices will stay the same unless, of course, T-Mobile decides to raise them. Just as T-Mobile did with its initial attempts to hide this fact, the carrier gets to decide whether a more expensive plan is better for you, even if it offers more than many customers might want, need, or be able to afford. Third, this merger would mean massive consolidation in the wholesale wireless market. Reducing wholesale supply would raise costs passed along to the retail customers of all resellers. Wholesale is used by carriers without their own networks, including most Lifeline carriers, to offer service at resale. Throughout my career, I have been a strong defender of Lifeline because it helps the most vulnerable in society stay connected, providing just $9.25 a month to defray the high cost. Lifeline is dependent on a well-functioning wholesale market. Consolidation would further widen the quality gap between wireless Lifeline offerings and non-subsidized plans. In sum, you should closely scrutinize the too-good-to-be- true claims made by these two companies. You should also consider the real-world impacts on communities that struggle with high-priced connectivity and often find themselves on the wrong side of the digital divide. Thank you, and I look forward to your questions. [The statement of Ms. Scurato follows:] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Cicilline. Thank you very much. The chair now recognizes Ms. Bennet for five minutes. TESTIMONY OF CARRI BENNET Ms. Bennet. Chair Cicilline and Ranking Member Sensenbrenner, and Members of the Subcommittee, my name is Carrie Bennet, and I am here on behalf of the Rural Wireless Association. Thank you for this opportunity to testify today on the impact the Proposed T-Mobile/Sprint Merger will have on rural Americans. RWA opposes this merger. This merger is bad for competition. It is bad for consumers, especially in rural areas, who will experience fewer choices, price increases, and substandard service. It should be denied. T-Mobile has had more than 20 years to build out in rural America. Let's face it. T-Mobile is making a lot of promises about how it will expand coverage in rural America and improve service for these Americans, but based on its track record, we have no reason to believe that it will do so. I am going to run through four areas of concern. First, roaming. Roaming arrangements are important to rural Americans. Roaming keeps urban, suburban, and rural Americans connected. Sprint has historically worked with rural carriers to ensure rural Americans have robust wireless service. T-Mobile has not. According to our Members, T-Mobile's roaming rates are 20 times higher than Sprint's and T-Mobile's existing roaming agreements are one-sided. T-Mobile will frequently enter into unilateral agreements under which rural carrier subscribers can roam on T-Mobile's network with no possibility of T-Mobile subscribers roaming on the rural carriers' networks. In such cases, T-Mobile has simply chosen to deprive T- Mobile's own customers of coverage in rural areas rather than pay the rural carrier for the network access. This means that in those areas T-Mobile's customers cannot be reached and are basically off the grid. Do we really want new T-Mobile's 100 million plus subscribers, more than one-third of the market, to be denied service in rural America? Second, 5G build-out in rural America. T-Mobile's repeated claims about new T-Mobile's future 5G rural build-out are unfounded. When it comes to 5G networks and some of the potential rural applications, like precision agriculture and remote health care, low latency is a must. The facilities needed for 5G technology cannot rely on satellite and microwave due to their high latency. Fiber must be deployed and deploying fiber takes time and money. Neither T-Mobile nor Sprint have expended resources to build out fiber in rural America. Without a commitment to lay fiber in these undeveloped areas, their claims of building out future 5G broadband networks ring hollow. Acquiring Sprint does not give New T-Mobile the fiber it needs to serve rural America with 5G or in-home broadband. Disallowing the merger will enable hundreds of rural broadband providers across America to work with both Sprint and T-Mobile to build out broadband more quickly. Third, rural call completion. Less than a year ago, the FCC found that T-Mobile failed to correct ongoing problems with delivery of calls to rural consumers. In fact, T-Mobile admittedly inserted false ring tones into these calls so that the caller believed the call was ringing on the other end when it wasn't. Aside from blatantly breaking the law, T-Mobile severely hindered rural consumers from running their businesses, communicating critical information to family and friends, and reaching emergency service personnel. This callous behavior in an effort to save money has harmed rural Americans and we believe that T-Mobile's destructive behavior will continue, perhaps even more aggressively, once its rival Sprint is eliminated. Finally, false broadband mapping claims. Our Members have serious concerns about T-Mobile's broadband maps submitted in the FCC's Mobility Fund proceeding. That fund was created to provide $4.5 billion to mobile carriers to help better connect rural Americans. To make sure it knows where the money is needed the most, the FCC asked wireless carriers to submit maps indicating where each carrier offers qualifying 4G broadband coverage. According to testing done by our Members, when T-Mobile submitted its data, the company vastly overstated its rural coverage to make its reach seem bigger than it is. When rural carriers went to test T-Mobile's claims, 95.8 percent of the tests showed speeds below the threshold demanded by the FCC or no 4G broadband service at all, and many of the places where T- Mobile certified it had coverage cell sites had not even been put into operation. If not corrected, funding will not be available in these rural areas. As part of its public interest review, the FCC must determine whether T-Mobile has been honest in its dealings with the FCC. Our member's drive tests strongly suggested it has not. In sum, a string of broken promises does not bode well for rural Americans and this deal should be denied. Thank you, and I look forward to your questions. [The statement of Ms. Bennet follows:] STATEMENT BY MS. BENNET Introduction and Summary Chairmen Nadler and Cicilline, Ranking Members Collins and Sensenbrenner, and Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for this opportunity to testify today to discuss the impact that the proposed T-Mobile/Sprint merger will have on rural America. I am here on behalf of the Rural Wireless Association, Inc. (RWA), which represents about 50 rural wireless carriers, each with fewer than 100,000 subscribers and the majority with less than 10,000 subscribers.\1\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ See Rural Wireless Ass'n, https://ruralwireless.org/. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- RWA's Members consist of both independent wireless carriers and wireless carriers that are affiliated with rural telephone and broadband companies. RWA Members have provided wireless services in their respective rural communities for more than 50 years. Our Members live and work in rural America, and they make sure that rural America is not left behind. Small, rural-based wireless service providers offer low- cost wireless plans to rural Americans and operate networks which promote public safety, encourage innovation and economic development, enable more efficient energy and agriculture production, and support telehealth and distance learning applications. RWA opposes the proposed merger of T-Mobile and Sprint. If approved, this horizontal merger would eliminate one of only four nationwide competitors, leaving only three nationwide, facilities-based wireless carriers. This consolidation will force rural Americans to pay more money for wireless services. In addition, it will undermine the system of roaming that is a key component of telecommunications and broadband access in rural communities and degrade service quality. In short, this merger will do nothing to help rural Americans or those traveling in rural America, but it will do much to hurt them. The Proposed Transaction Will Raise Prices for Rural Americans The primary question facing the Department of Justice (DOJ) and Federal Communications Commission (FCC or Commission) is whether the elimination of Sprint as an independent, nationwide carrier will hurt competition and lead to increased prices, thereby harming the public interest. The answer is an unqualified yes. Such price increases will be acutely felt by rural consumers and those traveling in rural America. The elimination of Sprint will not only remove a facilities-based carrier that supports its own well-known Sprint and Boost retail operations, it will completely remove a nationwide roaming option for small rural carriers, as well as a wholesale network option for mobile virtual network operators (MVNOs), machine-to-machine (M2M) service providers, and other Internet of Things (IoT) service providers. Recently, in an attempt to counter evidence showing that this transaction will increase prices for American consumers, T-Mobile CEO John Legere promised that ``T-Mobile and Sprint legacy rate plans will continue as New T-Mobile plans for three years after the merger or until better plans that offer a lower price or more data are made available.'' \2\ In general, this self-imposed behavioral remedy is cold comfort for millions of Americans because there are countless ways New T-Mobile can raise prices while still complying with this supposed ``rate plan'' freeze. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ Letter from John Legere, CEO, T-Mobile, to Ajit Pai, Chairman, FCC, WT Docket No. 18-197 (Feb. 4, 2019). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Worse still, the commitment does nothing to protect rural Americans who purchase wireless plans from the MVNOs that currently rely on Sprint for wholesale service. Mr. Legere makes no commitment to maintain existing prices paid by MVNOs to Sprint.\3\ If anything, the promise to freeze rate plans for New T-Mobile customers only increases the combinedvcompany's incentive to raise prices for New T-Mobile's MVNO wholesale customers. Of course, those increased costs to these MVNOs would have to be passed on to rural Americans. As discussed below, T-Mobile has not--and will not--commit to extending Sprint's wholesale roaming agreements with rural carriers, leaving them vulnerable to ever-increasing rate hikes. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \3\ See Id. at 7. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Proposed Transaction Will Harm Rural America by Eliminating a Critical Roaming Partner The merger will result in particular harm to Americans who travel, work, or reside within rural areas. Sprint has historically worked with rural carriers to ensure rural Americans have access to robust mobile wireless service. Sprint has offered rural carriers, including RWA Members, reciprocal, strategic roaming agreements at commercially reasonable rates, providing rural carriers important pro-consumer benefits and significant flexibility. In doing so, Sprint has been an exception; the other nationwide carriers have not demonstrated a willingness to engage in such commercially reasonable arrangements. While carriers cannot publicly disclose agreement specifics, RWA understands from its Members that the Sprint agreements do not incentivize Sprint or RWA Members to throttle data usage because the agreed-upon roaming rates are commercially reasonable, thereby providing a better experience for their respective customer bases. In fact, according to our Members, Sprint's roaming rates are 20 times lower than T- Mobile's. RWA Members are concerned that the terms in their roaming agreements with Sprint will not be included in any roaming agreements with New T-Mobile, and that New T-Mobile has no plans to allow its customers to roam on rural carrier networks--even in areas where its own network is substandard or nonexistent. Absent a guarantee that favorable Sprint roaming terms will continue, RWA Members will be forced to accept T-Mobile's existing one-sided roaming agreements. While T-Mobile is required by the Commission's rules to allow the customers of other carriers to roam on its network, T-Mobile is not required to allow its customers to roam on other carriers' networks, even where its own network is substandard or non-existent. T- Mobile will frequently enter into unilateral roaming agreements under which the rural carrier's subscribers can roam on T- Mobile's network, but with no possibility of T-Mobile's subscribers roaming on the rural carrier's network. In such cases, T-Mobile has simply determined that it is better for its business for its customers to do without any coverage in rural areas, rather than pay the rural carrier for network access. As discussed below, the cost of accessing the rural carrier's network is determined by T-Mobile, so T-Mobile's argument that the cost to use a rural carrier's network is too expensive is baseless and self-serving. This means T-Mobile's customers cannot access wireless services when traveling in rural areas. The result? They cannot be reached and are basically off the grid, all because T-Mobile chooses to restrict access to the rural carriers' networks. Roaming arrangements are particularly important to rural Americans who depend upon reliable access to advanced mobile services in order to communicate with others. This need to access 4G (and soon 5G) services does not end when a rural consumer leaves her home or job in rural America. Rural consumers still need the capability to access mobile wireless services in non-rural U.S. markets where their local hometown carrier does not provide service. Likewise, wireless customers in urban and suburban U.S. markets should have access to the critical coverage provided by RWA member carriers, who in many cases operate the only network in a rural area. This mutual dependency makes bilateral, inter-carrier voice and data roaming critical from both a commercial and public safety perspective. Reciprocal roaming keeps urban, suburban, and rural America connected. Sprint has been a valuable partner in this system, while T-Mobile has consistently refused to enter into reciprocal roaming agreements with RWA Members. What does this mean? If this merger is approved, rural consumers and consumers traveling through rural America will pay higher rates due to the increased roaming rates set by New T-Mobile. Of the four nationwide carriers, Sprint is the only one that offers anything approximating commercially reasonable roaming rates, terms, and conditions to rural carriers. T- Mobile has not shown that it wants rural carriers to have affordable access to its nationwide network. If a rural carrier had such access, the rural carrier could offer its rural customers not only robust rural coverage on its network, but also affordable coverage when the rural customer chooses to travel outside the rural carrier network (i.e., affordable nationwide service). When a rural carrier's customer regularly travels outside a rural area, the cost to support that customer accessing T-Mobile's network through a roaming agreement can be astronomical. Similarly, if a rural customer purchases a T- Mobile handset and plan, T-Mobile denies access to the rural carrier's network so that the device does not work when the T- Mobile customer is in the rural carrier's service area. Do we really want to force rural Americans to buy two plans--one from a rural carrier and one from New T-Mobile--just to get consistent coverage? That would double the monthly price a consumer would pay for service. Sprint, on the other hand, has not blocked access, throttled data usage, or established unreasonable commercial roaming rates. In fact, RWA Members have reported that the voice and data roaming rates they currently pay to Sprint are one-twentieth (1/20th) of what they pay T-Mobile for comparable coverage and service. If Sprint disappears and T-Mobile's rates are adopted, roaming costs could go up by 1,900 percent, jeopardizing the ability of rural carriers to offer outbound roaming to their consumers. Without outbound roaming, rural carriers cannot offer a compelling retail product to rural consumers. Absent that capability, they will be forced to exit the business, leaving an untold number of Americans without any access to mobile wireless communications in rural America. Obviously, loss of coverage in rural America is not in the public interest and is one of the many harmful anticompetitive effects of this proposed merger. New T-Mobile will have zero incentive to provide commercially reasonable roaming rates, terms, and conditions to RWA Members. Without access to nationwide roaming (at per- megabyte or per-minute bilateral rates that are lower than each carrier's existing retail rates, or even each carrier's wholesale/MVNO rates), rural carriers cannot offer nationwide rate plans at levels that are competitive with the nationwide carriers. This puts rural carriers at a competitive disadvantage. Specifically, because the flow of roaming traffic is one-way (i.e., only rural to T-Mobile), the wholesale roaming rates paid by rural carriers are often inflated. This is because T-Mobile entered into negotiations knowing that it would never allow outbound (i.e., T-Mobile to rural) roaming. Higher roaming rates mean that rural carriers are either forced to raise their own retail rates or absorb the roaming charges, which comes out of the rural carrier's profits. When rural carriers pay higher roaming rates, they are forced to reduce the extent of network buildout and reduce the funds available for other operating expenses, resulting in denigrated service in rural areas. In these instances, rural consumers and rural carriers lose. In addition, T-Mobile's preclusion of its own customers from accessing rural carriers' networks--either by blocking by location area codes (LAC) or denying the exchange of reciprocal roaming traffic--makes rural carriers more reliant on Universal Service Fund (USF) subsidies. RWA emphasizes that many of these LAC restrictions and roaming denials are not in markets where T-Mobile has its own network--they are in markets where T- Mobile has no reliable coverage of its own. If T-Mobile allowed its customers to access those networks and paid rural carriers for use of their networks, the rural carriers would have revenue to support their networks, reducing reliance on USF funding. RWA notes that T-Mobile collects a universal service fee from its own customers to support these high cost networks and then turns around and denies its customers access to those very same networks T-Mobile's customers subsidize. Sprint, on the other hand, has been willing to allow its customers to roam off-network. Accordingly, if T-Mobile is allowed to merge with Sprint and continues to block access to rural carriers' networks, then tens of millions of existing Sprint customers will experience a reduction in roaming coverage availability, another major public interest harm. Furthermore, Sprint has leased its spectrum to rural carriers in rural areas to enable them to build out networks that serve both rural Americans and those traveling in rural America. Given the difficulty that rural carriers often have in accessing spectrum, these lease agreements are critical. There is no reason to believe they will continue if the proposed merger is consummated. Specifically, RWA Members are concerned that their spectrum leases with Sprint will not be renewed by New T-Mobile, which would cause rural carriers to lose coverage and force even more consumers to go without service. Despite T-Mobile's claims that it will expand service to underserved communities post-merger, the reality is clear: T- Mobile has neglected rural America for over 20 years. T-Mobile has focused most of its energy on urban areas. Indeed, T- Mobile's retail presence in rural America is virtually non- existent, presumably because it has little or no coverage in rural America. After all, there is no point in having a rural retail store if there is no coverage in the area. The lack of retail stores came to light during the FCC's Mobility Fund Phase II challenge process when rural carriers sought to obtain T-Mobile devices to challenge alleged 4G LTE coverage in rural areas. To participate in the challenge process, RWA Members often had to drive two or more hours each way (over 250 miles round trip) to purchase T-Mobile devices at the closest T-Mobile retail store. The experience of RWA Members is that when T-Mobile does extend service to a ``rural county,'' it typically builds a cell in the county seat, covers major State and federal roadways, and ignores the rest of the county. In short, T-Mobile is not focused on rural Americans, and there is no reason to believe that will change if this merger is approved. 5G Needs Fiber--An Input Both T-Mobile and Sprint Lack in Rural America The repeated claims about the extent of New T-Mobile's future 5G rural buildout are unfounded. Rural areas are difficult to serve, and the proposed transaction does nothing to improve the challenging economics of undertaking a 5G greenfield build in rural areas. While Sprint and T-Mobile each have ample spectrum today to initiate facilities-based service in rural markets, both have elected to focus their attention on urban and suburban portions of the country. The proposed merger will not change their major market focus. Moreover, both companies lack fiber deployment in rural areas, a critical input for 5G services. When it comes to 5G networks and some of their potential applications - autonomous vehicles, precision technology and remote health care--lowering latency is a must. The backhaul facilities needed for 5G technology cannot rely on satellite and microwave backhaul technology due to their high latency. 5G wireless cells must be placed in close proximity (300 to 500 feet) to consumers,\4\ and fiber optic backhaul must be present nearby each of those cell sites. Deploying fiber takes time and money. Google, one of the best financed companies in the United States, exited the fiber business after realizing that building fiber networks is not for the faint of heart. Building fiber networks that support both wireless and wireline networks is a capital intensive and costly undertaking--one that rural telephone companies have assumed across the United States by banding together in statewide consortia to connect rural areas of their individual states. Because neither T-Mobile nor Sprint have expended resources to build out fiber networks in rural America, T-Mobile's claims of building out future 5G wireless broadband networks in rural America is without foundation absent a commitment to lay fiber in these greenfield areas. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \4\ Vantage Point, White Paper: Evaluating 5G Technology (rel. July 10, 2017). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- In short, T-Mobile's acquisition of Sprint is not going to change the fact that both companies lack the fiber buildout they need to serve rural America with 5G. By keeping both T- Mobile and Sprint separate and competing, hundreds of rural broadband providers across rural America will be able to work with both to more quickly build out LTE and 5G by leveraging and expanding the rural fiber networks. T-Mobile Has a Poor Track Record of Rural Call Completion The harm T-Mobile has inflicted on its own customers is not restricted to denying them access to rural wireless networks-- it extends to denying those same customers access to rural landline telephone networks as well. Less than a year ago--on April 16, 2018--the FCC announced that it had ``reached a settlement concluding its investigation into whether T-Mobile USA, Inc. violated the Communications Act when it failed to correct ongoing problems with delivery of calls to rural consumers and whether it violated the FCC Rule that prohibits providers from inserting false ringtones with respect to hundreds of millions of calls.'' \5\ That same day, the FCC released a Settlement Order,\6\ which adopted a Consent Decree \7\ entered into between the FCC and T-Mobile. In the Consent Decree, the FCC determined that T-Mobile inserted false ringtones into hundreds of millions of telephone calls placed by T-Mobile customers each year. The FCC's investigation revealed a pattern of this illegal practice impacting customers of rural local exchange carriers (LECs). Instead of terminating these calls, T-Mobile injected false ringtones, leading the T- Mobile customer to think that the rural LEC customers were not picking up their landline telephones. In reality, the call was passed to an intermediate provider, where it was then either placed in a never-ending loop or transferred to one or more additional intermediate providers. Eventually, the calls either dropped or the T-Mobile customers hung up. T-Mobile admitted in the Consent Decree that it violated the FCC's 2014 prohibition against the insertion of false ringtones and failed to correct problems with its intermediate providers' completion of calls to customers of rural LECs. T-Mobile's actions were extremely harmful to both its own wireless customers and landline customers served by rural LECs across the country. And, despite the FCC informing T-Mobile of numerous customer complaints and expressly prohibiting the practice, T-Mobile engaged in the illegal practice of inserting false ringtones into calls destined for rural consumers for four years. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \5\ Press Release, FCC Reaches $40 Million Settlement With T-Mobile for Rural Call Completion Violations (rel. Apr. 16, 2018). \6\ T-Mobile USA, Inc., File No.: EB-IHD-16-00023247, Order, DA 18- 373 (rel. April 16, 2018). \7\ T-Mobile USA, Inc., File No.: EB-IHD-16-00023247, Consent Decree, DA 18-373 (released April 16, 2018). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aside from blatantly breaking the law, T-Mobile severely hindered rural consumers seeking to run their businesses; communicate important and critical information to family and friends; and reach emergency service personnel, medical professionals, and law enforcement in affected rural areas. The callous behavior T-Mobile engaged in to save money on terminating rural calls underscores the fact that T-Mobile's attitude toward rural consumers is egregiously anticompetitive. T-Mobile's actions with respect to rural call completion, combined with its behavior in the context of roaming and spectrum management, demonstrate that T-Mobile has a general disregard for rural consumers and rural carriers. RWA believes that T-Mobile's anti-rural consumer behavior will continue, perhaps even more aggressively, once its rival Sprint is eliminated. The FCC Should Investigate T-Mobile's 4G LTE Coverage Claims Before It Approves the Merger The FCC's Mobility Fund was created to provide $4.5 billion to mobile carriers over the next 10 years to help connect rural Americans who lack quality wireless service. To make sure it knows where the money is most needed, the FCC has asked wireless carriers to submit maps indicating where each carrier offers 4G LTE coverage with speeds of 5 megabits per second download or faster. According to a study done by RWA, when T- Mobile submitted its data, the company vastly overstated its rural coverage to make its reach seem bigger than it is. When rural carriers went to test T-Mobile's claims, 95.8 percent of their tests showed speeds below the threshold demanded by the FCC--or no 4G LTE service at all. In many of the places where T-Mobile certified it had coverage, cell sites had not even been put into operation. FCC acceptance of the faulty T-Mobile coverage data would mean that rural carriers who serve rural consumers would be denied funds, even though no alternative sources of service exist, causing a loss of service to customers of rural carriers who rely on this funding. The FCC is currently investigating this issue. But, before the FCC can make a public interest determination regarding this proposed merger, it must first know that T-Mobile has been honest in its dealings with the Commission. Our Members' drive tests strongly suggest that it has not. The Commission cannot approve a merger when there is an unresolved enforcement proceeding pending against the merging parties. Conclusion This merger is bad for competition. It is bad for consumers, especially in rural areas, who will experience higher rates and lower quality service. It will degrade the quality of telephone service in rural areas. It should not be denied. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Ms. Bennet. Mr. Wallsten is now recognized for five minutes. TESTIMONY OF SCOTT WALLSTEN Mr. Wallsten. Chair Cicilline, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner, and Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify on the pending merger between T- Mobile and Sprint. My name is Scott Wallsten. I am an economist and President and Senior Fellow at the Technology Policy Institute. TPI is a nonprofit/nonpartisan think tank that focuses on the economics of innovation, technological change, and related regulation. TPI takes no institutional position, so this testimony reflects only my views. The key question when reviewing the pending merger is whether the expected efficiencies gained from combining the third and fourth largest wireless firms outweigh the possibility that the combined firm could harm competition. To address this question, I make four points. First, this merger involves more than the usual level of uncertainty because it involves the nascent technology just beginning to be deployed. Because we know so little about 5G, claims regarding optimum market structure are speculative and difficult to evaluate. Second, the empirical literature evaluating four to three wireless mergers is inconclusive. Some studies find that prices increased after such mergers, some find that prices decreased after such mergers, and some find that prices did not change. Third, the uncertainty about new technology and the lack of evidence that four to three mergers necessarily lead to competitive harms mean the government has little basis for blocking the merger. Fourth, because T-Mobile and Sprint may serve more than 50 percent of wholesale and low-income consumers, antitrust authorities should carefully consider the potential effects of the merger on those groups. T-Mobile and Sprint argue that combining their resources, particularly spectrum, will allow them to build a higher- quality, more robust 5G network more quickly than either firm could on its own. Opponents contest this assertion. Evaluating this claim and whether it would benefit consumers, if true, is difficult because we know little about 5G supply and almost nothing about demand. A market with more firms experimenting with different technological approaches and business models may yield better social outcomes. On the other hand, given the risky nature of investing in a new technology and likelihood of making mistakes, a market with fewer but stronger firms may yield better social outcomes. Real-world evidence of the effects of previous four to three wireless mergers finds that even with the current technology, mergers did not consistently lead to one particular outcome. One paper that reviewed 13 studies of four to three mergers found no consistent effect on prices. In short, real-world experience provides little reason to believe one outcome is more likely than the other. That also means we do not have consistent evidence that the merger would necessarily harm consumers or competition overall. Without such evidence, the government has little reason to block the merger. Opponents, however, have also raised concerns about low- income and wholesale consumers and the horizontal merger guidelines note that the government should consider how a merger might affect different groups of customers. While T-Mobile and Sprint serve about 30 percent of all subscribers, available public data suggests they serve far larger shares of wholesale and low-income subscribers. Wholesale and low-income service overlap but are not identical. Facilities-based providers sell wholesale network access to other companies who resell it under their own brands. Resellers offer traditional wireless services, often prepaid, and internet of things connectivity. Estimates suggest that T-Mobile and Sprint currently provide more than half of all wholesale connections and their annual reports show increasing number of wholesale subscribers. Low-income subscribers probably rely disproportionately on prepaid plans but not all prepaid plans rely on wholesale networks and not all wholesale-based plans are prepaid. Low- income and wholesale services are therefore related but different. One survey suggests that T-Mobile and Sprint directly serve almost half of consumers of annual incomes of less than $50,000. The true number is probably higher when also considering wholesale. The combined T-Mobile/Sprint holding more than 50 percent of subscribers in these segments is not necessarily a problem. Whether it is depends on whether they could profitably raise prices without encouraging more entry by AT&T, Verizon, or others. Antitrust authorities who presumably have access to the actual data, the proprietary data, should study these segments carefully and evaluate whether some conditions may be necessary. The government can do a lot to promote competition. The FCC and NTIA should continue making flexible use spectrum available. The FCC should continue removing obstacles to hopeful entrants, like Low-Earth Orbit satellite broadband companies, OneWeb, SpaceX, and Telesat, and IOT wholesale Ligado. We do not know what the 5G world will look like. That is the nature of innovation. Without evidence that the merger is likely to lead to bad outcomes, there is little reason for the government to oppose it. It should carefully consider low- income and wholesale segments where the merging companies have a particularly strong presence. Thank you for your time. I am happy to answer questions. [The statement of Mr. Wallsten follows:] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Mr. Wallsten. I now recognize Mr. Yoo for five minutes. TESTIMONY OF CHRISTOPHER S. YOO Mr. Chair, Ranking Member Sensenbrenner, Members of the Subcommittee, I am grateful for the opportunity to testify here today. At the subcommittee's request, my remarks will focus on the proposed merger's likely impact on rural consumers. The key to my analysis is the growth in the demand for wireless broadband and the resulting increase in the need for wireless spectrum. Spectrum can be divided into three basic types, low band, mid band, and high band, each of which operates in a different frequency band and each one serves a different role. Low band spectrum is typically defined as those bands found below one gigahertz. Low band signals propagate very well, typically reaching a distance of 18 miles. In addition, low band spectrum is more able to penetrate buildings than other types of spectrum and does not require direct line of sight. Mid band spectrum consists of bands ranging from one to six gigahertz. Mid band signals typically cover a range of four miles and mid band spectrum typically requires line of sight transmission but can penetrate buildings. High band spectrum includes frequencies higher than 20 gigahertz that have long been regarded as unusable but are now being unlocked by improvements to technology. The range of high band spectrum is quite limited, typically propagating roughly half a mile. In addition, high band spectrum requires both line of sight and does not penetrate buildings well, although higher frequencies do provide more bandwidth. The engineering community has long recognized the deployment of 5G will depend on a mix of both low-band and mid- band and high-band macro cells and high-band and mid-band micro cells. This is particularly important in rural areas. The 14-mile service range and good propagation characteristics of low band spectrum make it ideal for providing basic coverage for rural areas. The problem is that because low bad spectrum covers such large areas, the bandwidth that it provides can be quickly exhausted. Although these shortages can be addressed by adding lower band spectrum, because these additional bandwidth would be needed only in population clusters within rural areas, much of that additional low band spectrum would be wasted. The generally accepted technical solution is to meet the growing demand for bandwidth by adding small cells that will rely on higher band spectrum in those areas where they are needed. The four-mile service range of mid band spectrum allows it to be targeted efficiently at those areas that need additional bandwidth the most. Not only does the addition of these micro cells expand the bandwidth available in the population clusters within rural areas, using micro cells to satisfy the demand generated by those clusters frees up macro cell capacity for the most remote customers for whom macro cell service is the only viable option. The foregoing underscores the reality that successful deployment of 5G depends upon having a mix of low band and higher band spectrum. Sprint lacks the low band spectrum to be able to provide 5G in rural areas as a stand-alone company. Sprint holds three to four times less low band spectrum than other national wireless providers, as reflected in its weak coverage and performance of its current LTE network. The lack of low band spectrum leaves Sprint in a particularly poor position to serve rural customers as a stand- alone company. The low population density of rural areas makes it unlikely that the limited geographic range of Sprint's mid band service will reach enough customers to be financially viable. The company resulting from the proposed T-Mobile/Sprint merger is planning a very different strategy from those being pursued by other national wireless providers. T-Mobile is already using its 600-megahertz spectrum to deploy LTE and if the merger is approved, the merged company plans to use the low band spectrum that T-Mobile obtained in the recent incentive auction to provide the macro cell foundation for its 5G service. Because this spectrum is newly deployed, the company will be able to convert these macro cells to 5G merely by reconfiguring the relevant software, and its mid-band micro cells do not need spectrum assignments, while the other national wireless providers are following a strategy relying on high band spectrum that has not yet been allocated by the Federal Communications Commission. Sprint's inability to provide service and 5G service in rural areas explains why a bipartisan group of 13 House Members has signed a letter supporting the transaction and makes the presence of respected advocates for rural consumers, such as the National Grange and the Attorneys General for New Mexico and Utah, supporting the merger significant. I find those gestures particularly meaningful. I would be happy to answer any questions you have. [The statement of Mr. Yoo follows:] STATEMENT OF MR. YOO Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee, I am grateful for the opportunity to testify here today. At the Subcommittee's request, my remarks will focus on the proposed merger's likely impact on rural consumers. The key issue will be the impact that spectrum holdings have on the growing demand for mobile broadband and the deployment of 5G. The Basic Principles of Low-, Mid-, and High-Band Spectrum A key input to meeting the growing demand for wireless broadband services is spectrum. Spectrum can be divided into three basic types--low-, mid-, and high-band--each of which operates in different frequency bands and serves a different role. Low-band spectrum is typically defined as those bands falling below 1 GHz. Low-band signals propagate very strongly, typically reaching a distance of 18 miles. In addition, low- band spectrum is less prone to environmental interference and is more able to penetrate buildings than other types of spectrum and does not require direct line of sight. Because of these attractive characteristics, the original cellular telephone service was deployed in low-band spectrum. Low-band spectrum does have some drawbacks: It does require larger antennas and provides less bandwidth than other types of spectrum. Its strong propagation characteristics make it less useful for adding capacity on a localized basis. Mid-band spectrum consists of bands ranging from 1 GHz to 6 GHz. Base stations operating in the mid-band typically cover a radius of four miles. Mid-band spectrum typically requires line-of-sight transmission, but can penetrate buildings. It does support more bandwidth than low-band spectrum and can utilize smaller antennas. High-band spectrum is generally regarded as including frequencies higher than 20 GHz that had long been regarded as unusable, but are not being unlocked by improvements in technology. The range of high-band spectrum is quite limited, typically propagating roughly half a mile. In addition, high- band spectrum both requires direct line of sight and does not penetrate buildings well. It does provide the highest bandwidth and permits the use of the smallest antennas. The engineering community has long recognized that the deployment of 5G will depend on a mix of both low-band macrocells and mid- and high-band microcells.\1\ This is particularly important in rural areas. The fourteen-mile service range and good propagation characteristics of low-band spectrum makes it ideal for supporting basic coverage for rural areas. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ See, e.g., Jeffrey G. Andrews et al., What Will 5G Be?, 32 IEEE J. on Selected Areas in Comm. 1065, 1066-68 (2014). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The problem is that because low-band spectrum covers such large areas and accordingly a relatively large number of users, the bandwidth that it can provide can quickly become exhausted. Although these shortages can be addressed by adding more low- band spectrum, the fact that the additional bandwidth would be needed by only in population clusters within rural areas, much of that additional low-band spectrum would be wasted. The generally accepted technical solution is to meet the growing demand for bandwidth by adding smaller cells that rely on mid-band spectrum. The four-mile service range of mid-band spectrum allows it to be targeted efficiently at those areas that need the additional bandwidth the most. Not only does the addition of these microcells expand the bandwidth available in population clusters; diverting the demand generated by those clusters to microcells frees up macrocell capacity for the most remote customers for whom macrocell service is the only viable option. Implications for the Proposed Merger The foregoing underscores the reality that successful deployment of 5G depends on having a mix of low-band and higher-band spectrum. This fact underscores two realities. The first is that Sprint lacks the low-band spectrum to be able to provide 5G in rural areas as a standalone company. As the FCC's most recent Wireless Competition Report demonstrated, Sprint holds no spectrum in the traditional cellular blocks (850 MHz), the spectrum auctioned following the digital television transition (700 MHz), or the spectrum distributed in the recent incentive auction (600 MHz). Its only low-band spectrum is a small sliver of Specialized Mobile Radio (SMR) spectrum that is three to four times smaller than the low-band holdings of the other national wireless providers.\2\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ Annual Report and Analysis of Competitive Market Conditions with Respect to Mobile Wireless, Including Commercial Mobile Services, Twentieth Report, 32 FCC Rcd. 8968, 8996-97 (2017) [hereinafter 2017 Wireless Competition Report]. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sprint's lack of low-band spectrum has manifested itself in the mounting indicators of its weak operational performance. Information provided to regulators as part of the merger have revealed that Sprint's reliance on mid-band spectrum has given it a much smaller LTE coverage area than the other national wireless providers.\3\ In addition, measures of bandwidth performance surveyed by the FCC reveal that Sprint's LTE networks consistently deliver significantly lower bandwidth than do other national wireless providers.\4\ Although Sprint's financial condition is no longer in free fall, its current spectrum holdings make it unlikely to be able to address these shortcomings should it remain as a standalone company. The lack of low-band spectrum leaves Sprint particularly poorly positioned to serve rural consumers. The low population density of rural areas makes it unlikely that the limited geographic range of mid-band service will reach enough customers in order to be financially viable. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \3\ Ex Parte Notice on Behalf of Sprint, Applications of T-Mobile US, Inc., and Sprint Corporation for Consent to Transfer Control of Licenses and Authorizations, att. C, slide 4 (Sept. 25, 2018) (WT Docket No. 18-197), https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/10926182275583/ Sprint%20Ex %20Parte%20-%20Doc%20Prod.%20-%2009.26.2018%20FINAL%20- %20REDACTED.pdf; Chaim Gartenberg, Sprint points out its LTE network is, in fact, trash, The Verge (Sept. 28, 2018, 1:11 p.m. EDT), https:// www.theverge.com/2018/9/28/17914230/sprint-lte-network-coverage-bad- tmobile-merger. \4\ 2017 Wireless Competition Report, supra note 2, at 9035-37. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The second is that the company resulting from the proposed T-Mobile/Sprint merger is planning a very different strategy from that being pursued by the other national providers. The company resulting from the proposed merger plans to use the low-band 600 MHz spectrum that T-Mobile obtained in the recent incentive auction to provide the macrocell foundation for its service. Because this spectrum is not currently in use for mobile wireless services, the company will be able to deploy 5G technologies in its macrocells as well as its microcells without any concerns about cannibalizing its existing businesses. More rapid deployment of 5G in low-band spectrum can only benefit rural consumers. The addition of Sprint's underutilized mid-band spectrum would allow the merged company to deploy microcells without having to wait for additional high-band allocations. The other national wireless providers can follow the same strategy, but having largely sat out the incentive auction, they would have to repurpose low-band spectrum currently devoted to LTE to provide the base-level macrocell coverage. Their public announcements indicate that they are focusing on future releases of high-band spectrum for microcells, which remain uncertain, instead of relying on mid- band spectrum to support their microcells. Closing Thoughts Sprint's limited low-band spectrum holdings leave it poorly positioned to provide rural service as a standalone company in a 5G world. In addition, the fact that the company resulting from the proposed merger appears poised to follow a business model that is quite different from the one embraced by the other national wireless providers raises strong potential benefits for consumers generally and rural consumers in particular. That is why a bipartisan group of thirteen House Members have signed a letter supporting the transaction.\5\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \5\ Letter from 13 Members of the House of Representatives to Ajit Pai, Chainman, Fed. Commc'ns Comm'n, and Makan Delrahim, Assistant Attorney General, Antitrust Division, U.S. Dept. of Justice (Jan. 25, 2019), https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5699740/Sprobile .pdf. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Subcommittee should also bear in mind that the nature of competition in the telecommunications industry has changed. Instead of simply engaging in price competition on facilities that already exist, the modern industry now competes by focusing on investments in newer, higher quality facilities. This replaces the thin price competition based on the resale of existing facilities that proved so unsuccessful under the Telecommunications Act of 1996 with one that benefits consumers by incentivizing investments in improved capacity and services. Lastly, policymakers should always remember that market developments that improve efficiency, quality, or innovation create benefits for consumers while leaving direct competitors worse off. That is why antitrust law has long viewed competitor complaints with a skeptical eye and emphasized that importance of focusing on mergers' impact on consumers, not competitors. This makes the presence of respected advocates for rural consumers supporting the merger, including Betsy Huber of the National Grange (with whom I have the privilege of serving on the FCC's Broadband Deployment Advisory Committee) \6\ as well as the Attorneys General for New Mexico and Utah \7\ particularly meaningful. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \6\ Letter from Betsy E. Huber, President, National Grange, to Marlene Dortch, Secretary, Federal Communications Commission, WT Dkt. No. 18-197 (Sept. 12, 2018), https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/ 109130913822630/T-Mobile-Sprint-Grange%20Letter%20to%20FCC-Final%209- 12-18.pdf. \7\ Letter from Hector Balderas, New Mexico Attorney General, and Sean Reyes, Utah Attorney General, to Marlene Dortch, Secretary, Federal Communications Commission, WT Dkt. No. 18-197 (Aug. 24, 2018), https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1082488029914/2018-08-24%20Joint%20AG% 20Ltr%20FCC.pdf. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you very much, Mr. Yoo. Thank you all for your opening statements. We will now proceed on the five-minute Rule with questioning, and we will begin with the gentleman from Georgia, Mr. Johnson, for five minutes. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank the panelists for being here today. Mr. Legere, the day after the T-Mobile/Sprint merger was announced, nine top T-Mobile execs checked into Trump Hotel, is that correct? Mr. Legere. Thank you, Congressman, for the question. We announced our deal on April 29th, and on April 30th, we came to Washington, DC, as a leadership team for two things. One is to meet the FCC and the DOJ. The second is to announce our quarterly earnings, and that was the reason for the large group. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. I understand there was a purpose in coming, but the very next day, nine top execs checked into the Trump Hotel after the announcement, correct? Mr. Legere. Yes, sir, and very importantly, if I may add, I made the decision. I am a long-time Trump Hotel stayer, way before this transaction. For example,-- Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Okay. But the company had not paid for more than two nights at Trump Hotel prior to the announcement, correct? Mr. Legere. Sir, the Trump Hotel is only in existence for about a year and, frankly,-- Mr. Johnson of Georgia. So, yes,-- Mr. Legere. --we had no reason-- Mr. Johnson of Georgia. --the bottom line, though, is that only two nights had been paid for by T-Mobile prior to the announcement, correct? Mr. Legere. At the Trump DC but not counting-- Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Trump DC. Mr. Legere. --tons of other hotels. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Trump DC. Mr. Legere. Sir,-- Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Now let me--because I am running out of time now. Since the announcement, $195,000 has been spent by T-Mobile at Trump Hotel Washington, is that true? Mr. Legere. That number is approximately true, and it is also-- Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Let me ask you-- Mr. Legere. --roughly ten percent of our spend in Washington, DC. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Okay. I understand, I understand. But now prior--yeah. Do you see how that looks? In other words, you don't spend any money at Trump Hotel two nights and then after the merger, you spend $195,000 at Trump Hotel? Mr. Legere. Sir, that is not on that night and I would say-- Mr. Johnson of Georgia. No, I am saying over the last 11 months, you have spent 195,000. Do you understand the optics of that, what it looks like? It looks like what is happening is that T-Mobile is trying to curry favor with the White House. Did it occur to you that Members of the public, Members of Congress, the FCC, and President Trump himself, did it occur that we would all see that expenditure as an attempt by T- Mobile to gain acceptance by Donald Trump and his Administration? Mr. Legere. Congressman, I was, and I am a hundred percent sure that this deal will be judged by the FCC and the DOJ. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Okay. I am just talking about the optics of what happened. Mr. Legere. The optics of me staying at the Trump Hotel haven't changed for 10 years. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Well, I appreciate that. It kind of doesn't pass the smell test with the American public. It looks like you are trying to purchase influence. It looks like it could be a violation of the Emoluments Clause of the United States Constitution. Let me ask you this question. Do you know if the Trump Organization or the Trump Campaign or the Trump Administration has attempted to contact the Justice Department to talk about this merger? Mr. Legere. Sir, I have no information of that at all. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Do you know, has T-Mobile had any discussions with the Trump Organization, the Trump Campaign, or the Trump Administration about approving this merger? Mr. Legere. I have not, and I am not aware of any discussions by my organization. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Mr. Claure, your company contracts with broadband providers, isn't that true? Mr. Claure. I don't understand your question. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Okay. The Rural Wireless Association contracts with Sprint and T-Mobile for the use of their towers when rural wireless customers are roaming, is that correct? Mr. Cicilline. The member's time has expired but the witness may answer the question. Mr. Claure. That is correct. We provide service to rural carriers. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Those contracts will soon be expiring with those rural carriers, is that correct? Mr. Claure. That is incorrect. Most of the contracts have self-renewal and they are in different timelines. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. All right. Thank you. Mr. Claure. Thank you. Mr. Cicilline. The chair now recognizes the Ranking Member, Mr. Sensenbrenner, for five minutes. Mr. Sensenbrenner. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Where Mr. Legere and T-Mobile employees stay when they come to Washington really has no relationship whatsoever to whether this proposed merger is in the public interest or is not, and let me say I am kind of embarrassed, sitting here listening to the gentleman from Georgia's line of questions, particularly since the FCC is an independent agency. It is not a part of the Administration, and the Commissioners of the FCC are supposed to Act independently based upon the data and the information and the testimony that is presented to them. Now, having said that and I certainly will stand up for the independence of the FCC and these other independent agencies. Let's get down to whether this merger is in the public interest or not. So, I want to ask the two CEOs, particularly Mr. Legere. I have been on this Committee for as long as I have been in Congress, which is 40 years. I have worked on antitrust questions, you know, including the mixed-up AT&T divestiture of the early '80s, which was supposed to divide things up and ended up putting things more back together than they were beforehand. I conclude European countries tend to put much more emphasis on whether a company is too big and stifles competition whereas here we focus on what is best for the consumer. So obviously going to four to three may stifle competition, it may not, but that is not what American antitrust law has been about. So, anybody that talks about four to three mergers and things like that, in Europe it is an entirely different law, and we ought to realize that. So, I would like Mr. Legere and Mr. Claure to say what can consumers expect out of this and you say that prices will decrease as coverage, speed, and capacity continue to improve. In some ways, it looks like it is mutually exclusive, that you get a better product and you pay less for it. It seems to me that certain mergers might deal, Number 1, with the economics of scale and Number 2, allow each of the partners of the merger who will be able to benefit from the strengths of the other and get rid of the weaknesses that they have. So, can our two CEOs answer that in the two minutes I have left? Mr. Legere. Yes, thank you, sir. The transaction will provide a 5G network capability that the United States desperately needs. The 40 billion dollars will be invested by coming together of these two companies. A merger usually is fearful. Airlines are used many times: Where airline mergers got us less supply, less leg room, more fees, higher prices. But, iIn this case, supply will go up dramatically. Prices will go down. Services will expand. In- home broadband competition will be growing. Rural coverage will expand. Rural competition will expand, and jobs will go up. So, every piece of what is good for consumers happens in this transaction. Mr. Sensenbrenner. Can you tell me what all these things have to do with where you stay when you come to DC? Mr. Legere. They don't, sir. Mr. Sensenbrenner. Thank you. Mr. Claure. Thank you. So, I think a good way to portray this is many times we try to compare this merger to others. There has never been a merger in wireless where, by mixing two companies, because of our unique spectrum position, that you are going to create eight times the capacity. So therefore, nobody can stand here and say that we are going to increase prices. When you have anything that you increase the capacity by eight times, we have an economic interest to basically fill that capacity and the only way the American consumer will move, AT&T and Verizon customers will move is by us lowering prices. It is that simple. It is not what John or what I say. It is we have an economic necessity as part of our business plan to lower prices, to fill that capacity, which is going to be eight times what we will have if we were to stand alone, and the reason why it is that is because our spectrum holdings are able when put together to create eight times the capacity. Mr. Cicilline. You have three seconds. Mr. Sensenbrenner. I yield back. Mr. Cicilline. I thank the gentleman for yielding back. I now recognize the gentle lady from Washington. Ms. Jayapal. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to our panelists for being here today. I have been following this proposed merger closely because T-Mobile is just outside of my district and many of the workers are in my district and I know, Mr. Legere, that you have requested a meeting with my office, and we have reached out and we hope to do that next week. I do want to say to the gentleman from Wisconsin that there is actually reason to look at this question of what happened at the Trump Hotels because it has been clear from quite a bit of reporting that President Trump appears to have involved himself in the AT&T/Time-Warner merger and we want to make sure that this is not happening today. So, I do want to refer to the letter that Senator Warren and I sent to you, Mr. Legere, and also to thank you for your very prompt response to that letter and so let me just run through this quickly and give you a chance to just give me quick answers on this because I want to turn to the content of the merger after this. In 2015, you had a public Twitter dispute with now President Trump regarding the quality of Mr. Trump's hotels in New York that ended with you tweeting, and this is a quote, ``I am so happy to wake up in a hotel where every single item isn't labeled Trump and all the books and TV is about him,'' is that correct? Just a yes or no. Mr. Legere. That is correct. Ms. Jayapal. Thank you. Then in August of 2017, though, you did stay at Mr. Trump's Washington, DC, hotel, correct? Mr. Legere. That is correct, and many times in between, as well. Ms. Jayapal. Then last April, you announced the merger. It was actually just once, according to your letter that you responded to me. It was once between then and April when you announced the merger with Sprint and you knew that the merger couldn't go forward without approval and so you stayed there one time, according to this letter you sent me, between August and April, is that correct? Mr. Legere. Yes, that is true. I had much less reason to be coming to Washington. I hope that time returns at some point. Ms. Jayapal. Great. Thank you. The very day after the merger was announced, you and eight of your top executives were on a list of VIP arrivals at the Trump Hotel in DC, correct? Mr. Legere. I am not aware of that. Ms. Jayapal. Okay. That is per a January 16th Washington Post article that has the details of that and so in my letter, one of my questions was how much T-Mobile spent at the Trump International Hotel and you very kindly gave me that number. Can you just please tell the Committee what that number was? Mr. Legere. We spent $194,000 out of $1.7 million spent at hotels in DC during that period. Ms. Jayapal. Understood. I appreciate you have a big budget. You have to travel around, and this was relatively small in the grand scheme of things. However, were you at all concerned that staying at the Trump Hotel so soon after the merger was announced and then again according to reporting, you hired Corey Lewandowski to consult with you, is that correct? Mr. Legere. Can I answer both of those questions? Ms. Jayapal. You can answer both of those questions. Mr. Legere. Every consultant that we hire is completely disclosed, and we had hired Turnberry, an organization that he has been affiliated with or not affiliated with, but we have not hired Corey Lewandowski directly. The decision to stay at the Trump Hotel again was my decision, and it was consistent with where I have stayed and how I chose hotels in the past. Ms. Jayapal. Except that in 2015, you said you were never going to stay there and so, we are relying on what you have said and so I only raise this because we unfortunately have a situation where the President has not disclosed his business interests and when he has a business interest, and it appears that you might be trying to influence the President to get involved in something he really should not be involved in, that causes concern for this committee, which is the Judiciary Committee, and so I would just say to you that if you do want this to be judged on the merits of the merger, which I think you want, we would expect that there would be concern around anything that might shed a light of impropriety on the merits of the merger. So, now let me turn to the merger itself. There are currently four big companies in the telecommunications space. Verizon has 34 percent of the market, AT&T has 33 percent, T- Mobile has 18 percent, and Sprint has 14 percent. Mr. Legere, and I think both of you testified that critics who say that prices will go up and that jobs will be lost are wrong and so let me turn to you, Ms. Sohn. You used to work for the FCC. You are an expert on antitrust policy, and I would like to ask you, is it your opinion that moving from four companies to three will make the telecommunications market more competitive? Ms. Sohn. No, it will make it less competitive, and it will raise prices on consumers, as the FCC's record shows. Mr. Legere makes a lot of promises but, as the Senate says, nine Senators said in an 18-page single-spaced letter, a dynamic CEO is not a legal commitment. Mr. Legere. Congresswoman, that is just false. Ms. Jayapal. I am sorry, Mr. Legere. It is my time. Mr. Legere. That is just false. Ms. Jayapal. It is my time. I just wanted to end my testimony by saying that both the Netherlands and Austria underwent four to three mergers in the mobile wireless space. Both saw price increases. Mr. Chair, I ask for unanimous consent to enter into the record both my letter with Senator Warren to Mr. Legere and his response back to us. Mr. Cicilline. Without objection. Ms. Jayapal. Thank you. [The information follows:] MS. JAYAPAL FOR THE RECORD ======================================================================= [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Cicilline. The chair now recognizes the gentleman from Florida, Mr. Gaetz, for five minutes. Mr. Gaetz. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just cannot believe what we are watching. The gentle lady from Washington just talked about how the substance of this merger is critically important to her constituents because it is so nearby and then only reserved the remaining 50 seconds of her time to ask questions about the substance of the merger because we must go into what kind of hotel towels you like. I guess I should confess I once said I would never stay in a La Quinta again, and I have stayed in La Quintas subsequently. So presumably that is of some relevance. I would like to spend the lion's share of the time on the actual substance. A Huawei employee entered T-Mobile, into a testing lab, put a proprietary robot arm into a laptop bag and then walked out. With this in mind, Mr. Legere, does T-Mobile currently have any Chinese equipment in its existing network? Do you plan to use Huawei in the new T-Mobile 5G network, and what is T-Mobile itself doing to secure its network? Mr. Legere. Yes, thank you for the question, sir. T-Mobile has no Huawei or ZTE in the core of its network. We have no Huawei or ZTE plans. They will not be in our network now or ever. There was a robotic arm that was stolen in a lawsuit that we filed with Huawei, and we are very pleased by the things that the government is doing to ensure the safety around Huawei. Mr. Gaetz. Ms. Bennet, do your Members contain Huawei or ZTE equipment? Ms. Bennet. Yes, we have about 25 percent of our Members that have those two Chinese vendors in their networks. They did it because they had universal service funds to spend. They were trying to look for a low-cost economical way to spend their money and they did deploy those back in 2010-2011, before it became known that it was a problem, and our Members-- Mr. Gaetz. So, for the sake of cost, your Members do have Huawei and ZTE parts. Does Huawei sit on your board? Ms. Bennet. We do have a member, a Huawei representative on our board in a non-voting capacity and has no influence over our Public Policy Committee or our board. Mr. Gaetz. It has come to my attention that some of your member companies also use Huawei equipment and have sites or towers in close proximity to military bases, is that correct? Ms. Bennet. I believe that that is correct, yes. Mr. Gaetz. So, as we move to 5G, what plans do your member companies have to remove Huawei equipment and how quickly do you plan to address the national security concerns that these questions raise going forward? Ms. Bennet. It is a very good question and thank you. We plan to do what the Federal Government says that we should do. To the extent that that equipment needs to be replaced, we plan to replace it. Of course, we are going to need funding to do that, and we have been in discussions with both Members of Congress, the FCC, and the Administration on how to go about that without harming the rural Americans that live in that area by having them have no access to public safety services by putting the equipment out of order. Mr. Gaetz. Mr. Legere, will T-Mobile be requesting any additional government assistance to accommodate your plans to not use the lower cost Huawei and ZTE equipment? Mr. Legere. No, sir, we wouldn't, and frankly, I think we have even offered to play a role with the Rural Wireless Association to help them possibly use some of our pricing power to purchase alternative equipment. Mr. Gaetz. So, as I understand it, some of the rural providers oppose the merger. If the merger were to take place, there would be more connectivity that would come not from their providers but from T-Mobile in that circumstance and that would result in not having as much ZTE and Huawei equipment utilized in our technology transfers of information and you wouldn't require any additional government assistance, like the rural carriers have just said they would require? Mr. Legere. Right. The existence of it in their networks concerns us. Mr. Gaetz. Mr. Chair, I seek unanimous consent to enter into the record a CNN article, March 11th, 2019, entitled Huawei Connects Rural America: Could It Threaten the Country's Most Sensitive Military Sites?'' Mr. Cicilline. Without objection. [The information follows:] MR. GAETZ FOR THE RECORD ======================================================================= [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Gaetz. I want to also ask about emergency response. I come from North Florida. We have been dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Michael, and I have seen in trips that we have taken, bipartisan trips, where cities that have 5G technology have amazing capabilities in the event of disasters, especially for vulnerable populations, like people in hospitals and nursing homes. Can you speak specifically to how 5G will help our local communities respond to disasters? Mr. Legere. Yes, Congressman, that is a very, very important question. Resiliency is a combination of backhaul power, tower design, and restoration capability, and we have significantly invested in those areas to now, and that is a core part of the deployment of the New T-Mobile 5G Network. In fact, in Hurricane Michael, the restoration capability and the power investments we made allowed us to virtually have our entire network up throughout the disaster. That is a core principle of the design of the New T-Mobile network. Mr. Gaetz. What would be an example of how 5G could save lives in a disaster? Mr. Legere. The 5G network, most importantly, the reach and the breadth, and the coverage will provide capabilities that are far more resilient and far more pervasive than their coverage. Mr. Gaetz. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yield back. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you. The chair now recognizes the gentleman from Maryland, Mr. Raskin, for five minutes. Mr. Raskin. Mr. Chair, thank you very much. I am going to start with you, Ms. Sohn. Mr. Legere said that 16 of 19 State agencies reviewing the merger have already approved the transaction, but I know there are still ongoing State AG investigations. Are those 16 agencies that Mr. Legere cited as having approved the merger, are they responsible for determining if the merger violates antitrust laws related to the question before the FTC and the Justice Department? Ms. Sohn. Yeah. When the PUCs, the Public Utilities Commissions, and the State Public Service Commission's review this merger, they are not actually looking at the mobile wireless market. That is not in their jurisdiction. Mr. Raskin. What are they looking at? Ms. Sohn. They are looking at wire line, the small amount of wire line capacity that is involved in this merger. Mr. Raskin. Under State antitrust principles? Ms. Sohn. That is correct, but they do not look at what is the main event in this merger, which is the mobile wireless market. So, with all due respect to State PUCs and PSCs, the review is kind of irrelevant. Mr. Raskin. Okay. Ms. Bennet, let me ask you. You are my constituent, I think. You live in Carroll County? Ms. Bennet. That is correct. Mr. Raskin. Which is the most rural part of my district and a beautiful part of my district, and you are here on behalf of the Rural Wireless Association, representing 50 or more wireless carriers, right? Would this merger lower prices or increase prices and why and what would the impact be in the rural areas, such as where you live? Ms. Bennet. From a rural American's perspective, it will increase prices and the reason is because of the roaming agreements. Each carrier has in a rural market, we only serve the very small areas that are little islands in rural America. When rural Americans leave those areas to go travel to cities, they have to use a bigger carrier's network. In the case of Sprint, my Members have reported that their roaming arrangements with Sprint are often 20 times lower than those with T-Mobile. So, the fear is that if the merger takes place and the agreements that are in a place right now that some of them, contrary to what Mr. Claure said earlier, they are starting to expire, they don't automatically renew, and T- Mobile has not indicated that they will renew those agreements. They have said that we can select those agreements but if they are going to expire in a couple months, we are very concerned about that. The pricing would go up-- Mr. Legere. Sir, for the record,-- Ms. Bennet. Please let me finish. The pricing would go up for those rural consumers. So, we are going to have a situation we fear where rural consumers will have really good service at home with their local carrier and use the phone there for that service, but when they travel, they will have to purchase another phone which means rural consumers will end up paying double, one for their local home service and one for their travel service, so two phones to carry around. Mr. Raskin. Thanks. Mr. Legere, can you respond to that? Mr. Legere. Yeah. Just for the record, several times now people are referring to what is going to happen to my prices. I am going to be the CEO of the New T-Mobile. I have already taken a business plan to the rating agencies and the financial markets. Prices are going down. It is in my business plan. It is also promised in the commitments that I made to the FCC. From a roaming standpoint, we have made it very clear that we will honor the agreements that both Sprint and T-Mobile have. Remember, 70 percent of all the roaming agreements T- Mobile has are reciprocal and we are a $25 million net payer. Anybody that wants a roaming agreement that is reciprocal at zero, we will sign that right now. Whether the rural carriers pass those prices on to their customers, that is a different story. But, Ninety-six percent of rural America will be covered by the New T-Mobile network, which is significant, contrary to the point that Mr. Shelton made. Mr. Raskin. Mr. Shelton also testified that the transaction would result in lower wages and thousands or tens of thousands of layoffs, perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars lost to CWA workers. Are you willing to make the same promises to the workers that you are making to the customers? When you say prices are going to go down, are you promising that those workers are not going to lose their jobs, or do you concede that they will? Mr. Legere. Thank you, sir. I mean, I would just have to categorize everything Mr. Shelton said as bad assumptions, bad math. The last time we were here in a hearing, Mr. Shelton said wages would go down but when asked what the wages were at T- Mobile and Sprint, he said, ``I don't know. We don't have an agreement with them.'' So, he has no-- Mr. Raskin. Can you just explain? Mr. Legere. Wages did not go down. Mr. Raskin. Can you explain as a matter of economic theory that if you have the two businesses across the street from each other and you take over the other business, why doesn't it logically follow that half of the people are going to lose their jobs? Mr. Legere. If there is a Sprint and a T-Mobile store in close proximity to each other, even if we take one of the geographies and close the real estate, it is highly likely that we will need both sets of employees because of our foot traffic and share of gross ad requirements. The other thing I would tell you is that we are offering a job to every T-Mobile and Sprint employee. We also have at Sprint retail stores, a 60 percent attrition rate annually and a 19 percent attrition rate at T-Mobile. So, this is something that we can take into consideration-- Mr. Raskin. Thank you. Mr. Legere. --and handle without-- Ms. Raskin. Mr. Chair, could I give Mr. Shelton just a chance to respond, just in fairness to him? Mr. Cicilline. Your time has expired, but if Mr. Shelton wants to answer the question. Mr. Shelton. As far as promising employees a job, there are so many loopholes there, it is amazing, but when you look at what those stores are actually, 84 percent of them are authorized dealers who are not employees of T-Mobile and have no promise even from Mr. Legere that will not be kept with authorized dealers because they are not T-Mobile employees. That is some 88,000 people in the United States. Mr. Legere. With all due respect, sir, when Metro-PCS was acquired, Mr. Shelton said we would decline 10,000 jobs. I added 23,000 jobs, and in my tenure as CEO, I have added 75,000 jobs, in addition to the 16,000 from Metro-PCS. So, my track record speaks for itself. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you. The Chair now recognizes Mr. Buck-- Mr. Buck. Before my-- Mr. Cicilline. --and I'll actually give you an extra minute, if you need to, since the witness on this side took an extra minute. Mr. Buck. Actually, I just wanted a ruling from the chair, if I may. I had dinner at the Trump Hotel three weeks ago. My steak wasn't cooked properly, and I sent it back and it was then returned cooked really well and I am just wondering if I have a conflict of interest. Mr. Cicilline. I think only if you are involved in a merger of two large companies. Mr. Buck. Okay. Mr. Cicilline. If you are not, I think you are safe. Mr. Nadler. Wait a minute, Mr. Chair. Mr. Cicilline. Yes. Mr. Nadler. That means he cannot speak at this hearing. Mr. Cicilline. Yes, that is true. I think they are trying to say perhaps you shouldn't speak during the hearing. No. [Laughter.] Mr. Cicilline. Mr. Buck is recognized. Mr. Buck. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. First, Mr. Chair, I would like to introduce a letter for the record from a constituent of mine, Frank DiRico, who is the CEO of Viareo Wireless and writes about the effect of this merger on rural broadband and he is very excited about this merger and continuing to work with T-Mobile. Mr. Chair, is there any objection to entering this? Mr. Cicilline. Without objection. [The information follows:] MR. BUCK FOR THE RECORD ======================================================================= [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Buck. Thank you. Then I wanted to just comment, Ms. Sohn, that between the two of you, I am going with T-Mobile just because he has better shoes. I don't know if you have seen them but those-- Mr. Cicilline. He is counting on that. Ms. Sohn. I have better glasses, though. [Laughter.] Mr. Buck. They are cool glasses, I give you. If they were a little pinker. I wanted to ask the two gentlemen from T-Mobile and Sprint whether you are planning on buying more spectrum as a result of this merger. Mr. Legere. The answer is yes. Currently, we are participating in a millimeter wave spectrum auction as we speak and there will be a lot more spectrum that is needed, in addition to what we are going to get together with these two coming together, these two companies. Mr. Buck. Do you plan on buying that from current holders of spectrum or in the market, other areas of the marketplace? Mr. Legere. Yeah. The significant amount of the spectrum that we need to run this new company will come from the integration of the low-band, mid-band, and high-band spectrum portfolios that we have. There will continually, as 5G advances, be a need to buy and there are government auctions that we are involved in. Mr. Buck. You have made promises about pricing and I am wondering, based on those promises, do you believe that there is any role for any government agency in the pricing that you will be setting? Mr. Legere. I believe my commitments are enforceable, and I have made it clear. Two things: I have a business plan that has prices declining. I have supply going up significantly. I have an 87 percent reduction in the unit cost of a gigabit of data that is being sold. So, I have huge supply. I have a significant price decline capability, and I committed that to the FCC in writing for the first three years. Mr. Buck. Okay. So, I took an economics class in college and I immediately went into law. [Laughter.] Mr. Buck. I wanted to just ask you to explain to the American public why three big companies makes for better competition in the marketplace than two big companies and two small companies. Mr. Legere. Right. Thank you, sir. I think you categorized that well. Amongst the ways that I look at this merger is going from two to three and, by the way, after the Number 3 and Number 4 players come together, we will still be a much smaller Number 3 to the economic power of AT&T and Verizon. Why this makes sense is that we will be able to significantly increase supply and bring competition greatly to those other two. The last thing I would also say, we continue to ignore that the cable monopolists are in wireless. Comcast added more phone customers in the last year than AT&T and Verizon together. Comcast, Charter, now Altice. DISH owns a massive amount of spectrum that will come in, and Tracfone happens to be largest prepaid player in the market. So, there are more than just the three players but going from two to three makes more sense than just having two. Mr. Buck. Do you agree with that? Mr. Claure. One hundred percent. We talk about the U.S. market being a competitive market. It is not. AT&T and Verizon today have over 70 percent market share, but what is worse is they control over 93 percent of the cash flow in this industry. So, think about it. How could you compete when you are competing against two companies that are generating 93 cents of every dollar of profit? So, the only way we are going to be able to compete is when we put our two companies together, we build a better product, we lower our prices, we cover every corner in America, and this is the first time that AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, and Charter are really going to feel the competition. So, we are going to make this market more competitive, and this merger is pro-consumer because everybody benefits, whether you are postpaid customer or whether you are prepaid customer. Better product at lower prices, that is the basics of business. Mr. Buck. So, have the two of you put your head together and figured out which color this new entity will go with? Mr. Legere. That would be magenta. Mr. Buck. I yield back. Thank you. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you. The chair recognizes the Chair of the Full Committee, Mr. Nadler, for five minutes. Mr. Nadler. Thank you. Before I start my questions, Ms. Sohn, you look very eager to respond to the last question. So, could you take just a moment to do that? Ms. Sohn. I am very eager. So, Mr. Legere keeps talking about unit price and I think that is really important because what he is saying is the New T-Mobile will give you more. He is not saying what they are not going to do, but on a per unit price, you will either pay the same or less. So, you will get faster speeds, better quality, but in absolute terms, you are going to pay more, but on a per unit, that is the words you just used. Okay. Number 2, if I hear excess capacity, excess capacity one more time, I think my head is going to explode. Okay. That is seldom the primary, the only determinant of a pricing decision. A market-dominating entity can reduce output because it is more profitable to do so. Carnegie owned all the railroads. He had lots of capacity, but he was still a monopolist. So, the capacity is meaningless when it comes to setting prices. Mr. Nadler. Thank you. Okay. Now the questions that I have for Mr. Shelton. Economic concentration in every sector of the economy almost has reached historic levels. Last week, Professor John Kwoka of Northeastern testified in front of the Senate that concentration has been steadily rising and competition declining in a great many sectors of the economy, raising ``legitimate concerns about increasing market power in large swaths of the U.S. economy.'' What effect has decades of consolidation, rising employer market power, and declining organization rates had on workers? Mr. Cicilline. Please use your microphone, Mr. Shelton. Mr. Shelton. Obviously, it has put a downward spiral on wages. The loss of unions has put probably a bigger downward spiral on-- Mr. Nadler. The loss of unions aside, you think the concentration has put a downward spiral? Mr. Shelton. Right. It has increased competition for labor and when you increase competition for labor, the labor prices go down and that is what-- Mr. Nadler. You mean decreased competition for labor? Mr. Shelton. Increased. I am sorry. Did I say decreased? Increased. Mr. Nadler. It has increased competition for labor? Mr. Shelton. No, decreased. I am sorry. Mr. Nadler. Okay. Then the prices go down is what you are saying? Mr. Shelton. Right. Mr. Nadler. As you note in your written, you discuss both T-Mobile's and Sprint's ``long history of ignoring workers' rights in violating federal labor laws,'' noting that T-Mobile in particular has been the subject of more unfair labor practice charges per employee than any other big business in the United States. That is a quote from you. How could the Sprint and T-Mobile merger affect New T- Mobile's ability to engage in unfair labor practices? Mr. Shelton. They will become much more powerful. This is a company that has been found guilty by various and sundry courts and the NLRB on already doing unfair labor practices and if you put them together, they will be more powerful and they will do everything they can to try to take unions out and they will continue to. Mr. Nadler. They will have more power, and if you put them together, albeit they are more powerful, they would not have less desire to do so? Mr. Shelton. I don't think they would have more desire because they want to keep unions out. The only way that their employees have a voice is through collective bargaining and they don't want any part of collective bargaining. Mr. Nadler. That wouldn't change? Mr. Shelton. No. Mr. Legere. Mr. Chair, could I comment? Mr. Nadler. I have one more question for someone else. Then if we have time. Ms. Scurato, in your testimony, you note that the proposed Sprint/T-Mobile merger would disproportionately cause harm to low-income communities and people of color. What are the harms that low-income communities and people of color are likely to experience as a result of the Sprint/T-Mobile merger and why do you think that they would experience those harms? Ms. Scurato. Thank you for the question. They are going to experience higher prices. If you look at the FCC record and these companies' economic studies, they actually show that prices are going to increase, and I am going to quote here-- Mr. Nadler. They show the prices are going to increase because of consolidation? Ms. Scurato. Yes, absolutely, and actually DISH economics have concluded that T-Mobile and Sprint's own economists predict significant price increases, the harms of which are going to disproportionately fall on lower-income subscribers. Mr. Nadler. Who did you say predicted that? Ms. Scurato. Yes, their own economists, and this is-- Mr. Nadler. T-Mobile's economists? Ms. Scurato. Absolutely. Mr. Legere. DISH, one of the objectors. Mr. Nadler. Okay. DISH's economists? Ms. Scurato. DISH's economists concluded that Sprint and T- Mobile's own economists predicted that, and that is what is in the FCC's record. Mr. Nadler. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Claure. Let me just intercede once. I am Mr. Claure. Mr. Nadler. Who wanted time to reply? Mr. Legere asked for time to reply, too. Mr. Legere. I cede to Marcelo. Mr. Cicilline. He is ceding his authority. Okay. Mr. Claure. So-- Mr. Nadler. Would you reply to both those questions, what you wanted to reply to and what Mr. Legere wanted to reply to? Mr. Claure. We cannot understand why when we are here under oath and somebody says that we have said we are going to get higher prices-- Mr. Nadler. No, I think she said that--she quoted DISH's economists as quoting your economists. Mr. Claure. Correct. So, let's make sure that we are very clear. We have made a commitment that we are going to lower prices. We went above and beyond. In other mergers, people go and make a filing with the FCC. We did that voluntarily. Nobody asked us to do that. We are making a commitment because we have eight times the capacity, which is something substantial. Just remember one thing. We are going to lower the price or the cost of our product by 87 percent of the manufacturing cost of a gig. Of course, we are going to lower prices. If any industry in the world where you lower the cost, you lower your cost by 87 percent, therefore, we have excess capacity and we made a commitment to have lower prices. Mr. Cicilline. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Nadler. Thank you. My time has expired. Mr. Gaetz. Mr. Chair? Mr. Cicilline. Yes, I recognize the gentleman from Florida for unanimous consent request. Mr. Gaetz. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Seek unanimous consent to enter into the record a letter from Northeast Colorado Cellular, Inc., directed to you and Mr. Sensenbrenner. Mr. Cicilline. Without objection. [The information follows:] MR. GAETZ FOR THE RECORD ======================================================================= [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Cicilline. I now recognize the gentle lady from Florida, Ms. Demings, for five minutes. Mrs. Demings. Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. Thank you to all our witnesses for being here with you. As I sit here and listen to all my colleagues, I guess it is necessary for some to try to find humor when we are talking about American workers potentially losing their jobs and people of color once again potentially being taken advantage of and persons who live in rural communities potentially losing adequate coverage. For some reason, I am struggling to find the humor in that and with all due respect to my colleagues who feel like where you stay is irrelevant, I do associate myself back to the comments originally made by my colleague from Georgia because when we are talking about mergers that cost millions of dollars, billions of dollars, excuse me, I do believe a compromise or the appearance of compromise or undue influence is relevant to this conversation. Mr. Legere, I am going to start with you. In your testimony, you said that this proposed merger would, and we referred to this quite a bit, lead to lower costs, it would be a tremendous job creator and would create thousands of more jobs. So, under those circumstances, when I hear what you say and what I hear what Mr. Shelton says, it appears to me that that would be a marriage made in heaven but apparently obviously the workers do not feel that way. So, if you would just please, if you have already done it, do it again for me because I don't see it quite yet and I am really struggling to see it, how does the merger actually lower costs? How does it become a tremendous job creator, and how will you create thousands of jobs that should make American workers, and the unions that represent them, extremely happy but they're not? Mr. Legere. Thank you very much, Congresswoman. I am sure the topics that you outlined, that you said we're finding humor in, I find no humor. We are the largest provider to people of color in low-income and will be, and they will be top beneficiaries of this transaction. Rural America will be, as well. Jobs, we are going to create 5,000 new retail jobs. We are going to onshore 5,600 customer care jobs. We are going to have 1,800 network integration jobs, and we are going to have 11,000 new positions. We will have 3,600 more employees in the first year than the two separate companies combined and 11,000 by 2024. So, jobs are going up. Again, Mr. Shelton's track record is when AT&T tried to buy T-Mobile, he predicted it would increase jobs 96,000. When T- Mobile bought Metro-PCS, he said it would decrease 10,000. I would submit that those are related to whether he has a union agreement, and he would be very happy in this job creation if, in fact, we were a union-created organization. Jobs will go up every single day of this new company. Mrs. Demings. Mr. Shelton, would you respond to that, please? Mr. Shelton. Yes. Mr. Legere is talking about jobs going up 5,500 or 5,000 call center jobs. Right now, T-Mobile ships call center jobs overseas every moment of every day. There is a tape wandering around the internet where his vice President of something is telling the people in the Philippines that work for T-Mobile in call centers that they are doing a great job because a year ago, there was none of them and now there is a thousand of them. Mrs. Demings. Mr. Legere, is the merger an American job creator or an American job destroyer? Mr. Legere. It is a significant American job creator, and I would just say to Mr. Shelton, I do have some offshore jobs, and I will have some-- Mrs. Demings. Do you ship American jobs overseas every day as he indicated? Mr. Legere. That is absolutely not true. Jobs in America are going up significantly every day in the New T-Mobile. Mr. Shelton. If I may, when you consider that 84 percent of the stores that are operated by authorized dealers, not employees of T-Mobile but authorized dealers, and then you consider that after this merger, if this merger goes through, T-Mobile/Sprint will have twice the number of stores that either AT&T or Verizon has, what do you think is going to happen to those stores? Mrs. Demings. I know exactly what I think. Thank you. Ms. Sohn, would you please go ahead with the last few seconds? Ms. Sohn. Thank you so much. I just want to list the promises I have heard today. On wholesale access, prices, Lifeline, in-home broadband, and jobs, like every day there is a new promise, but my question is who is going to enforce these vague promises? I agree with the Assistant Attorney General Makan Delrahim that behavioral remedies don't work. They didn't work in the Comcast/NBC merger. They didn't work in other mergers. Who is going to enforce all these promises? That is the problem. Nobody is the answer, and nobody is equipped. Mrs. Demings. Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. I yield back. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you. The chair now recognizes the gentleman from North Dakota, Mr. Armstrong, for five minutes. Mr. Armstrong. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Legere, we talk a lot about the race to 5G and we have talked about it today and we all recognize that when we are competing in this, we are competing with China and there is no real private business in China and they have a sense and a unity of purpose as a country in these types of scenarios that we don't. My question is, what does it mean for the U.S. to win the race to 5G? I mean, we are talking about short-term in jobs and those types of things but a longer view of economics of what this means and that is before we get into national security questions. Mr. Legere. Thank you very much, sir. The statistics from CTIA suggest that there are three million American jobs at stake with 5G leadership. That being that if we don't retain and take leadership in 5G, as we did with 4G, we can lose those jobs. It would be $350 billion of investment and a half a trillion of economic impact. Right now, the U.S. is behind China and South Korea in the deployment of 5G, as you say, heavily because the country of China has a massive state-run budget to deploy 5G as a critical national priority. With what we are going to do with the New T- Mobile--the $40 billion worth of investment, the creation of the new network, and forcing AT&T and Verizon to not just have short-term focus on millimeter wave and small geographies-- together we can lead the country to 5G and attain that critical position. Mr. Armstrong. When we get into this technology, I think it is important to recognize, too, we will pay $800 for a phone but not if there is one available for $740. I mean that is the nature of the American consumer. So when we start talking about where these processes are made and those types of things, but basic economics tells us more capacity should relate to lower prices, but the 5G dates are 2021, 2024, and those dates--I mean for everybody, those dates seem like a long way off, but can we expect to see improvements in speed and performance and I suppose most critically capacity before then? Mr. Legere. Yes, the New T-Mobile's network is going to have median speeds by 2024, 450 Mbps. By 2021, it will be a 150 Mbps median speeds across the whole country, and as I said, we are aspiring to cover 96 percent of all rural America. The promise of 5G, by the way, is a hundred times the speed and a hundred times the number of devices and 10 times better latency. So, it is a major transformational step but even as we migrate to it, the New T-Mobile speeds are going to be 15 times faster. Mr. Armstrong. In my never-ending quest to educate people about North Dakota, we have the best rural broadband in the entire country and when you deal with the success story for that, North Dakota is it, but we do recognize that rural America is significantly underserved across the entire country. So, I guess my question for Mr. Claure would be, do you think Sprint can no longer continue viably as a nationwide competitor, especially as we transition to 5G, under the current structure? Mr. Claure. There will be a different Sprint. For Sprint to be able to offer 5G in our current coverage, which is about half of AT&T's and Verizon's coverage, we will have to spend close to $25 billion. As you know, Sprint already has $40 billion in debt and we don't make any money. We barely break even. We will basically have to borrow that money from the bank and potentially must increase prices and we would only be to offer 5G in selected areas. The promise of 5G needs to be coverage end to end, so we can enable the new technology that would come with 5G. So, Sprint will be a very different company. Now, why this is extremely relevant is today, AT&T and Verizon, again like I said before, they have 93 percent of the profit generated and 70 percent of the market. If you shrink Sprint to be a smaller company, then basically the market share of AT&T and Verizon will grow more and the market dominance or the market abuse that they have will eventually grow. So, the way to make this market more competitive is by allowing Sprint and T-Mobile to merge, to create one third viable competitor that will bring competition to America. Mr. Armstrong. Thank you, and I think you and I can probably have a longer conversation than 20 seconds will allow about what happens, what potential pitfalls exists if Sprint does shrink and raise prices and how that looks to your current economic outlook. The type of company you are now versus the type of company you'd foresee in four years. Mr. Claure. It will be a smaller company, as I said, and, more importantly, it will make the other two much, much stronger. As we talk about market dominance, they will actually become a lot more dominant if that would be the case. Mr. Armstrong. Thank you. Mr. Cicilline. Thank the gentleman. I now recognize the gentle lady from Pennsylvania, Ms. Scanlon, for five minutes. Ms. Scanlon. Thank you. So, the major purpose of our antitrust laws is to address the impact of corporate consolidation on the public. So, I wanted to try to focus my time on the impact of the proposed merger on the consumers and workers in my district, which is Pennsylvania 5. It is South Philadelphia, all of Delaware County and part of Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. So, Ms. Scurato, and I note that you are a Villanova Law grad, which is in my district, your testimony that you submitted talks about the harm to price-conscious customers in low-income communities and communities of color. Would that also include seniors? Ms. Scurato. Yes, to the extent that they are price- conscious customers, it would include seniors. Ms. Scanlon. Okay. You talk about--I am sorry. Losing my place here. You have got a chart on Page 11 of your testimony that looks at major markets and the percentage of market held by Sprint and T-Mobile. Can you explain the significance of that chart with respect to the Philadelphia region? Ms. Scurato. Sure, absolutely. So, this is a percent of the market that Sprint and T-Mobile owned as a company or they own as a wholesale partner. It actually shows what percentage of the market they actually have in that district, in Philadelphia. Ms. Scanlon. What is the impact of a merger on the Philadelphia region if they have, what did you say, 40-46 percent of the market? Ms. Scurato. So, the impact is that the price-conscious customer doesn't have that robust competition between Sprint and T-Mobile in order to keep prices low. Ms. Scanlon. Is this what you would describe as a highly- concentrated market? Ms. Scurato. Absolutely. Ms. Scanlon. Okay. As I understand it, your testimony is that in a highly-concentrated market, that elimination of choices is what tends to drive prices up? Ms. Scurato. Correct. Ms. Scanlon. Okay. Mr. Shelton, you kindly attached Exhibit A to your testimony that has the distribution of Sprint and T- Mobile's postpaid and prepaid stores in various regions and one of them that you have highlighted there is Philadelphia. Mr. Shelton. Yes. Ms. Scanlon. You have that? Does that also show there is fairly highly-concentrated Sprint and T-Mobile coverage and retail stores there? Mr. Shelton. Excuse me. I didn't hear you. Ms. Scanlon. Does your graph indicate with respect to the Philadelphia region and the concentration of T-Mobile and Sprint retail stores? Mr. Shelton. Yes. Ms. Scanlon. What is the impact in your estimation of the merger on retail workers if the merger goes through? Mr. Shelton. Well, obviously, as you can see, these stores are very close together in most of these places. Not only that, but as I said before, 84 percent of all their stores are owned by authorized dealers, owned, and operated by authorized dealers. So, when T-Mobile says that they are going to offer a job to employees, that doesn't mean anything to authorized dealers' employees and when you have this many stores, as I also said before, twice what AT&T or Verizon would have if this merger goes through, obviously they are going to get rid of some of those stores and those stores are probably going to be authorized dealer stores and the employees in those stores. Ms. Scanlon. Okay. Thank you. So, we do have these concerns about the impact on consumers that less competition could lead to higher prices and consolidation of stores could lead to less jobs. So, Mr. Legere, how are these four to three mergers so different from traditional mergers where we have the concern about lessening competition? Mr. Legere. Thank you very much for the question. I think I have tried to be very clear that going from two to three is going to increase competition. In cities that have a high concentration of share, we run this business on nationwide advertising, nationwide pricing. We don't price particularly down to a neighborhood and in the lower end of the market, when we bought Metro-PCS, where the main concern was the same, Metro-PCS customers had 12 times increase in the data usage and a four percent decline in price. So, the low end of the market has been a high beneficiary and we would expect that to be here. Mr. Shelton keeps talking about the authorized dealers. Boost, Virgin, and Metro are pretty much heavily concentrated in authorized dealers, and we have made it clear we are going to run these brands as businesses as the way they are now. We can't make job offers to employees that aren't ours, but we can run these businesses. We can segment the market so that Metro and Boost and Virgin all have a clear role to play, and with Sprint and T-Mobile stores, we can offer jobs to every person. Ms. Scanlon. I think Ms. Sohn was looking to respond. Ms. Sohn. Yes, this is not a two to three merger. This is a four to three merger. We don't have to have three equal-sized players to compete. A Sprint and T-Mobile--by the way, T-Mobile became T-Mobile after the Justice Department blocked the merger of AT&T and T-Mobile. That is when they became the un-carrier and wisely hired this man to my right. You know, they are mavericks. They not only compete with AT&T and Verizon, but they also compete with each other, and as we have seen not only in Europe and I don't know why Europe is different, it is actually smaller, so I would think that if you are shrinking from four to three in Europe and it is bad and you have double digit price raises, it is going to be worse in the United States. There is no Rule that says that everybody has got to be the same size and, in fact, three is an invitation to collude rather than compete. Mr. Legere. Can I make one final comment since the word ``collude'' was used? Mr. Cicilline. The time has expired, but we are going to get back to you. I am going to go to Mr. Neguse from the great State of Colorado for five minutes. Mr. Neguse. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Claure, I want to talk a little bit about Mobile Virtual Network Operators. So, you can kind of correct me if I am wrong here. My understanding is that Sprint is one of the largest providers of roaming contracts in rural America. Is that a fair characterization? Mr. Claure. We provide it to both mobile--as you call it, MVNOs and to rural America. They are our customers. Mr. Neguse. So, I represent a district that is both urban and rural, quite a few rural counties in my district in the Second District in Colorado, and while I understand that T- Mobile has made a commitment with respect to legacy rate plans for the New T-Mobile in terms of maintaining those plans for three years after the merger, am I correct that that commitment does not extend to MVNOs that currently rely on Sprint for wholesale service? Mr. Claure. So, I would let Mr. Legere answer that since he is going to be running the new company, but there is one enormous MVNO in the United States and that is a company called Tracfone. I think they have something liked 20 something million customers. Tracfone basically has endorsed this merger. They sent a letter saying this merger is good for consumers. Mr. Neguse. I understand that. I don't mean to interrupt you, Mr. Claure, but I guess I will just give it to Mr. Legere. I am trying to get to this question of whether that price commitment will extend to this piece of the market, since that piece is such a huge component of the ability for folks in rural America to be able to access. Mr. Legere. Thank you, Congressman. I will go even one step further. Not only will we honor the agreements that both Sprint and T-Mobile have, if there is any MVNO that is concerned about them not having the ability to get the rates that they have now, I will lock in a contract with any one of them that wants to take their rates now and lock it in for as long as they want. Prices are going to go down in that market, as well, especially since I can't think of an MVNO agreement where prices ever went up or stayed flat. For somebody who wants to lock it in, I am your guy. I will meet right out in the hallway here. Mr. Neguse. Thank you for your answer, Mr. Legere. Mr. Claure, I want to follow up--use the remaining time I must follow up on a question that my friend from North Dakota posed around kind of the reasoning for this merger, particularly as it relates to Sprint's standing in the market. My sense, based off what I have read, is you have made statements previously that the path that Sprint is on, is not sustainable in terms of the path forward. I think you referenced to the gentleman from North Dakota that Sprint would have to be a smaller company. Am I characterizing your statements accurately? Mr. Claure. That is correct. Mr. Neguse. Okay. So, what I am struggling to reconcile is from your January 31st, 2019, press release detailing the first quarter results in 2018 of Sprint, and I will just go through some of these. Postpaid service revenue grew year over year for the first time in five years. Prepaid service revenue grew year over year for the fifth consecutive year. Net operating income of 479 million, 12th consecutive quarter of operating income, sixth consecutive quarter of net additions, 10th consecutive quarter of net additions in the business market. I mean, those don't sound like metrics of a company that would be getting smaller. It sounds like a company that is getting larger and maybe you can adduce. Mr. Claure. Sir, with all due respect, the only metric that matters in business is whether a business has the ability to generate cash or not and if you continue reading the press release, Sprint is expected to generate a negative free cash flow of a billion dollars this year. A company that doesn't generate free cash flow doesn't have the ability to invest. A company like Sprint has $40 billion in debt and the only way we can continue to invest is if we borrow more money and if we borrow more money, the only way to pay for it is we are going to have to increase prices and I have said that prior to this merger, the only way Sprint will continue is basically by increasing its prices. Mr. Neguse. Well,-- Mr. Claure. Now just to finish, we do not--as I said, we are generating negative free cash flow. That means we spend more money than money that is coming into the company. Mr. Neguse. I am going to give the witness a chance to respond to that, but I would just follow up to say--and again part of this is just reconciling the statements that the company has made with respect to its financials with the justifications for the merger, because what I am trying to glean from your written testimony focused on the need to be able to make more capital investments, and yet in your press release, you talk about the fact that network investments year to year have doubled, which I understand were reduced drastically in the years prior, but nonetheless, are now on the rise. There has been a lot of conversation about 5G. I read a letter that Sprint issued in the New York Times just yesterday essentially to customers far and wide with respect to one of your competitors and in that letter, it made clear to me that the Sprint--its plan is to be the first carrier in the United States that has mobile 5G later this year. So, again, I am trying to understand that difference between the position of the company and your testimony. So, if you will indulge me to give the witness a chance to respond to that. Mr. Cicilline. The gentleman's time has expired, but the witness may answer the question. Mr. Claure. Great. So, we do plan to deploy 5G in a very limited area. We said it. It is specific cities around the country, but we do not have the capability to offer a true nationwide 5G because we lack low band spectrum to do it throughout the country. Now when you see the metrics that you see, yes, Sprint has been getting better. When we started Sprint in 2014, we used to lose $5 billion. Today's company is barely break even and generating minus $1 billion. So that limits our ability to invest going forward. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you. The chair now recognizes the gentle lady from Georgia, Ms. McBath, for five minutes. Mrs. McBath. Thank you and thank you to all that are here sharing your views on this proposed merger. We have heard a lot of talk today about the potential effects of this deal and obviously I am not an antitrust lawyer, but it doesn't take an antitrust lawyer to see that there are real reasons to be concerned about how this proposed merger might harm consumers and workers. Our economy relies on robust competition and my constituents in Georgia don't need a law degree to tell them the difference between having four phone plans to choose from or just three. You don't need an economist to tell you that a company doesn't need two phone stores on the same block or that if you work at one of those stores, it is about to close and that you are going to need a job, and as it was stated here earlier by the Communication Workers of America, they project that 28,900 jobs would be lost due to this merger. So, my question for you, Mr. Legere, is, on February 4th, T-Mobile committed to make available the same or better rate plans as those offered by T-Mobile or Sprint for three years. So why not four or five years, and why do we need this promise if this deal is to be such a good deal to consumers? Mr. Legere. Thank you very much for the question, and I am happy to explain that. My business plan has prices going down the whole time. The panel has said several times that our own modeling showed prices going up in the first three years. That is not true. What happened is the build-out of the network takes three years. An economist inserted price pressure in the first three years as a theory as to what could happen before the capacity would go up. That is not my business plan. So, what I decided to do is make the commitment to the FCC. I will keep every rate plan that everybody has and keep it for three years because at the three-year point when the capacity is significantly built, there was no question from all the theoretical economists about what would happen to price. Mrs. McBath. Ms. Sohn, do you have any response to that answer? Ms. Sohn. I want to repeat what I said earlier in my testimony, that this pricing commitment, which, as you mentioned, is good for a limited time only, is an admission that post-merger, there is not going to be enough competition in the wireless market to constrain price increases. He is basically saying I have got to do this. I have got to make this promise and I will get back to promises, promises. Who is going to enforce these vague promises? I will also make another point. After the February 4th letter several people filed with the FCC showing how many loopholes there were in this pricing commitment and T-Mobile had to file an eight-page letter explaining why this was simple and ironclad. Now if you have got to take eight pages to explain why your pricing commitment is ironclad, it ain't ironclad. Mrs. McBath. Thank you. Mr. Shelton, Sprint and T-Mobile have promised to offer employees new jobs if they are affected by a store closure. What kinds of jobs might those be and tell us from your research, what kinds of jobs would those individuals be asked to take? Mr. Shelton. There is no way to tell what kind of jobs they might be. There is no way to tell what kind of wages they might make. There is no way to tell where they are going to work. There is no way to tell where they will be forced to transfer to go to work, and we still have 88,000 people who work for authorized dealers that haven't been promised anything and those stores are going to close, mark my words. Mrs. McBath. Thank you so much. I would like to yield the rest of my time to Mr. Neguse. Mr. Neguse. I thank the gentle lady from Georgia. Ms. Sohn, if you care to opine on the kind of colloquy Mr. Claure and I had previously, I just wanted to give you a chance to be able to. Ms. Sohn. Thank you so much. So, it is true that in the third quarter of 2018, Sprint had negative cash flow of $908 million but that is because they built up a large reserve of cash and now they are spending it on CAP-X. They spent $1.4 billion in the immediate prior quarter--oh, excuse me. They spent $1.4 billion on their network in the third quarter. That is why they had negative cash flow. In fact, in the prior quarter, so Q2, Sprint had positive cash flow of $525 million. Let me say one other thing. Nobody has talked about SoftBank. SoftBank is like overflowing with money. It has got $31 billion in cash and cash equivalence across its portfolio. Its Vision Fund has more than $90 billion in capital which it invests in cutting edge technology companies and there is more on the way. They are going to have an IPO of their Japanese Mobile Division and they are listing the offering at $30 billion. So, there is money there. It just needs to be spent. Mr. Neguse. I yield back. Mr. Legere. Can I reply now? Mr. Cicilline. The time of the gentleman has expired. I am going to recognize myself for five minutes. So, I want to start with, there has been a suggestion somehow, and I wasn't good in math, but there has been a suggestion that we are going from two to three, which just seems to me a really silly claim. I mean, T-Mobile currently represents 18 percent of the market and Sprint represents 14 percent of the market. That, going from two to three, acts as if those are non-existent players in the market and it seems to me that this is clearly not true. This is a very substantial part of the market and so I think you need to be honest. This is a transaction that takes four companies and makes it three, and the other question is, what is the impact on consumers and workers and costs, from my perspective. So, I want to start with, first, there has been a lot of discussion about the projected impact on consumers in terms of costs, and I take Mr. Legere at his word that he intends as CEO to keep costs down for the first three years, but, of course, this is not just something decided by a single individual. There is a market that will have some impact on whether that happens or not. You have shareholders that you are responsible to and you simply can't say, look, I am just going to keep my prices lower, and we are going to lose money because I want to do that personally. There are a bunch of duties you have, fiduciary duties, and market conditions, and what I really want to focus on is the testimony of Ms. Scurato, who references testimony from T-Mobile's economist, a firm called Cornerstone, that acknowledged that price increases are likely and that that was referenced in the DISH filing. So, I want to start really with you, Ms. Scurato. It seems like that was a conclusion that is consistent with other history in this sector and the reduction from four to three. Would you just explain a little bit about their response, and then I want to ask Mr. Legere to respond? Ms. Scurato. Sure. Thank you. So, in the Cornerstone study, it actually speculates that lower-income customers may be more willing to pay for better service than higher-income customers because they rely on smart phones for their only access to the internet. So that is part of the Cornerstone study, and again, DISH's economist, when looking at this study, they have concluded that Sprint and T-Mobile's own economists have predicted significant price increases and that those harms are going to disproportionately impact low-income consumers. Mr. Cicilline. So, Mr. Legere, I applaud both T-Mobile and Sprint have been, most people would recognize, scrappy, aggressive players in this market and it has resulted in maybe not better experiences for workers, according to Mr. Shelton, but at least better experiences for consumers, lower costs, more innovation, more choices. That is what competition is intended to promote. So, it is hard to understand, both in terms of your own economic conclusions of your economists that prices are going to go up and what we know about antitrust law and competition broadly, that less companies is less competition which produces higher prices. Why isn't this presumptively anticompetitive and not in the best interests of consumers, American jobs, or prices? It seems kind of-- Mr. Legere. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Several things. You did refer in the beginning in your comments about being a CEO with a fiduciary obligation to shareholders, and I made it very clear that the business plan that I have shown to shareholders, that I have taken to rating agencies, has price declines from day one down. Not what we keep hearing about here is giving credence to DISH doing economic modeling. Mr. Cicilline. It is not--I am sorry to interrupt, but it is not DISH doing it. It is your economists, a firm called Cornerstone. Mr. Legere. DISH's interpretation. I will tell you one of the reasons that the FCC shot clock is currently stopped is that we provided tremendous amount more information about the years '19 to '21 because this was such a question. Prices are going down and, sir, if you will give me that chance on the collusion comment because she made it, if I can just make this comment,-- Mr. Cicilline. Sure. Mr. Legere. --which was, T-Mobile's done a great job as a young carrier, but it didn't just come with hard work. We got $3 billion worth of cash and spectrum from the AT&T breakup and we did a merger with Metro-PCS. So sometimes those things are required. The un-carrier's brand is all about taking it to AT&T and Verizon. Those two wouldn't even speak to me if I was in a dark room alone with them and the whole brand-- Mr. Cicilline. Mr. Legere, I understand that. Our goal here is not whether you get to take it to AT&T and Verizon. Our goal in deciding whether this merger makes sense, is in the public interests, is if it is good for consumers, it is good for American jobs, and whether it will result in more choice and lower prices. So, I get the sort of competition view as the CEO of the company, but that is actually not part of the equation. The equation really from my view is does it produce more choice, more competition, and lower prices for consumers? Mr. Legere. Which it has, sir, in the years that I have been CEO of the 75,000 jobs-- Mr. Cicilline. No, I understand. I guess the other thing I want to ask is you keep saying this three-year window. So, I take it that even you aren't able to make a representation that after this three years-- Mr. Legere. Prices are going down. Mr. Cicilline. Forever? Mr. Legere. Prices are going down. Mr. Cicilline. But forever. Mr. Legere. Business plan for the entirety of this plan. Mr. Cicilline. Forever? Okay. That doesn't seem credible to me. Forever, you are not going to be there forever. I guess that is what was worrisome to me, is I don't think we should be looking at transactions like this and basing an approval or disapproval on your personal judgment or assessment that you are going to behave in a certain way as-- Mr. Legere. From here to 2024, there is going to be an eight-fold increase in capacity. There is going to be an 87 percent decline, and the unit cost is going to go up. Mr. Cicilline. I got that. Mr. Legere. They are going to have 10 times more data, six percent decline. Mr. Cicilline. So, I am going to just indulge myself for a couple minutes. Ms. Sohn, could you respond to this idea? I know in your testimony you spoke about the representations that were made by T-Mobile and Sprint to Wall Street and how that ought to be relied upon, but also how it conflicts with your own analysis of this, and then I have one final question for Mr. Shelton. Ms. Sohn. Yes, thank you. I mean, look, it is axiomatic that companies seeking to merge will tell Wall Street that everything is wonderful and tell DC that everything is falling apart, and we talked about that specifically with Sprint and Mr. Neguse which did a really great job of talking about how 2018 was a banner year and the third quarter we delivered solid financials. Mr. Legere. That would be a leap. Ms. Sohn. That is just one example, also, we didn't talk about the 5G because the promise of 5G, which both companies have been making, that is not merger-specific. Both companies have been promising pre-merger a nationwide 5G network. That is what they have been telling Wall Street. Now they are going to tell you it is deeper, stronger, bigger use your adjective, but that is what they have been telling Wall Street before this merger was concerned. Mr. Legere. Both totally false. Ms. Sohn. If I could, Mr. Legere , I wouldn't mind just finishing. I think it is important to note that both are putting their money where their mouths are. They are committing $5 to $6 billion annually until 2020. That pretty much equals--comes pretty damn close to the $$0 billion that they talk about if this merger is consummated. One last point, if I could. There is so much talk about the race to 5G, the race to 5G. Well, ask AT&T, ask Chair Pai, who I rarely agree with, and ask ABI Research, which is a leading research company in this space, and they all say the U.S. is winning. They are going to win, and they are going to be winning it at least for the next two years. So, I would not worry, Mr. Armstrong, about losing a race to 5G because we are winning because these companies are investing boatloads of money. Mr. Legere. Mr. Chair, I just have to say I find the comments that were made about public company CEOs saying whatever they need to say to Wall Street markets being insulting. It is a legal obligation we have to say exactly what is taking place in the business, and the 5G integration of the two companies is dramatically different than what-- Mr. Cicilline. I understand that. I think we are trying to reconcile two very different presentations. I want to just ask Mr. Shelton. You have made reference to the impact of this transaction on jobs and particularly you made reference to people being unrepresented in these companies, and I will disclose my own bias, that I think we can see clearly, that when people are represented by a union, they earn better wages and better benefits, and we don't want to just preserve jobs. We want to preserve good-paying family- supporting jobs. So, I wonder if you would just, as my final question, talk about what is the impact on jobs and your assessment--I know there is an assessment that was done by economists for CWA that demonstrates significant job loss and that the aggregate may be as much as $543 million in losses to workers. I think one of the big priorities of this Committee and this Congress is doing everything we can to protect good-paying American jobs, and if you could speak a little bit on that, I will give Mr. Legere an opportunity to respond. Mr. Shelton. First, on the jobs, we believe that there will be 30,000 jobs lost if this merger goes through. We are not alone in that. There are some Wall Street firms that maybe not 30,000 but 20,000 jobs will be lost if this merger goes through. The merger is based on $43 billion in synergies. Synergies, as everybody knows, is a euphemism for job cuts and what is going to happen in these stores if this merger goes through is absolutely job cuts, because they are not going to be able to live with stores across the street from each other all over the country when they will have twice the stores that AT&T or Verizon has. It is just not going to happen and to believe that it is going to happen, I have a nice bridge I would like to sell you in New York. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you. Mr. Legere. Mr. Legere. Yeah. Thank you. Again, as it has been all day, bad assumptions, bad math. Mr. Shelton should be ashamed of himself with some of these-- Mr. Cicilline. I will ask you to refrain from comments like that. Mr. Legere. Yeah. I withdraw that statement, but I would say T-Mobile, every single employee is a shareholder. I give them stock every year. They are all owners. We have won every award as the top places to work in America and that is because of the way we treat our employees. Our employees have the right to unionize if they choose and, in fact, one of our stores has, but the rest have significantly found that the relationship with-- Mr. Cicilline. So, Mr. Legere, as you sit here today, Mr. Claure, would you be willing to commit as part of this transaction to not interfere with efforts by your employees to organize? Mr. Legere. We don't interfere. Mr. Claure. We don't do it today. Our employees have made their choice that they don't want to be part of a union, but that has always been an option. I want to add one last thing since I have not had a chance. It is crazy to say that we are going to fire 30,000 people. Sprint has 28,000 people. Do the math. Number 1, It is absolutely impossible. Number 2, the gentleman to my left, I appreciate what you do in terms of protecting the American workers. You are contractually obligated to support AT&T, and it is AT&T behind this to try to block this merger because they know what is going to come. Third, I don't appreciate the comments, the bullying intimidation tactics, what you said. We don't. When employees come to work, they like working for Sprint and T-Mobile, and what John said is perfectly fine. Talk to employers in America. So, that is pretty much the fact. But saying that we are going to take out 28,000 employees or 30,000 employees, that is irresponsible because this causes fear among our employees who are watching right now, who know that it is absolutely not true. Mr. Cicilline. Mr. Shelton, you want to respond before I ask my very last question? Mr. Shelton. Thank you, Mr. Cicilline. They keep using the word ``employees'' and they are going to--there is no doubt-- there can't be any doubt in anybody's mind they are going to take these authorized dealers and they are going to slash and burn and those are American jobs that they are going to cut and they are going to cut 30,000 of those jobs and as far as Sprint and T-Mobile employees or at least T-Mobile employees being able to join unions, because that is what Mr. Legere just said, they went as far and have been found guilty of forming a company union to stop the union from organizing people at T- Mobile and that hasn't been done in this country since the 1930s. So, that is how much they are against their employees becoming unionized. Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Mr. Shelton. I am going to ask unanimous consent that a number of letters, both in support and opposition to the merger, be made a part of this record, and also a letter that I received and Ranking Member received from freeconferencecall.com, Mr. Erikson. [The information follows:] MR. CICILLINE FOR THE RECORD ======================================================================= [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Cicilline. Mr. Legere, I have actually heard this concern from a number of people about whether or not these free conference call programs are still going to be available because, I guess, currently they are considered out of plan with T-Mobile, and there is a lot of anxiety about whether in a merged company that kind of service would still be available. I don't know if you are in a position to answer that, but-- Mr. Legere. I will follow up. Mr. Cicilline. Great. I will be sure to provide you a copy of the correspondence we got. Thank you all. I know this has been a long hearing, but it has been incredibly informative, and I think particularly helpful to Members of the committee. You have nothing else, Mr. Armstrong? With that, we will adjourn the hearing and again thank you to the witnesses. 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