[House Hearing, 116 Congress] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] CLOSING THE LOOP: EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES IN PLASTICS RECYCLING ======================================================================= HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON RESEARCH AND TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE, SPACE, AND TECHNOLOGY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED SIXTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION __________ APRIL 30, 2019 __________ Serial No. 116-13 __________ Printed for the use of the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology [GRAPHIC NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Available via the World Wide Web: http://science.house.gov __________ U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 36-152 PDF WASHINGTON : 2019 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Publishing Office, http://bookstore.gpo.gov. For more information, contact the GPO Customer Contact Center, U.S. Government Publishing Office. Phone 202-512-1800, or 866-512-1800 (toll-free). E-mail, [email protected]. COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE, SPACE, AND TECHNOLOGY HON. EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, Texas, Chairwoman ZOE LOFGREN, California FRANK D. LUCAS, Oklahoma, DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois Ranking Member SUZANNE BONAMICI, Oregon MO BROOKS, Alabama AMI BERA, California, BILL POSEY, Florida Vice Chair RANDY WEBER, Texas CONOR LAMB, Pennsylvania BRIAN BABIN, Texas LIZZIE FLETCHER, Texas ANDY BIGGS, Arizona HALEY STEVENS, Michigan ROGER MARSHALL, Kansas KENDRA HORN, Oklahoma RALPH NORMAN, South Carolina MIKIE SHERRILL, New Jersey MICHAEL CLOUD, Texas BRAD SHERMAN, California TROY BALDERSON, Ohio STEVE COHEN, Tennessee PETE OLSON, Texas JERRY McNERNEY, California ANTHONY GONZALEZ, Ohio ED PERLMUTTER, Colorado MICHAEL WALTZ, Florida PAUL TONKO, New York JIM BAIRD, Indiana BILL FOSTER, Illinois JAIME HERRERA BEUTLER, Washington DON BEYER, Virginia JENNIFFER GONZALEZ-COLON, Puerto CHARLIE CRIST, Florida Rico SEAN CASTEN, Illinois VACANCY KATIE HILL, California BEN McADAMS, Utah JENNIFER WEXTON, Virginia ------ Subcommittee on Research and Technology HON. HALEY STEVENS, Michigan, Chairwoman DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois JIM BAIRD, Indiana, Ranking Member MIKIE SHERRILL, New Jersey ROGER MARSHALL, Kansas BRAD SHERMAN, California TROY BALDERSON, Ohio PAUL TONKO, New York ANTHONY GONZALEZ, Ohio BEN McADAMS, Utah JAIME HERRERA BEUTLER, Washington STEVE COHEN, Tennessee BILL FOSTER, Illinois C O N T E N T S April 30, 2019 Page Hearing Charter.................................................. 2 Opening Statements Statement by Representative Haley Stevens, Chairwoman, Subcommittee on Research and Technology, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives........... 8 Written Statement............................................ 10 Statement by Representative Jim Baird, Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Research and Technology, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives........... 12 Written Statement............................................ 13 Statement by Representative Eddie Bernice Johnson, Chairwoman, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives................................................ 15 Written Statement............................................ 16 Written statement by Representative Daniel Lipinski, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives.. 19 Written statement by Representative Suzanne Bonamici, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives................................................ 26 Witnesses: Mr. Paul Sincock, City Manager, City of Plymouth, Michigan Oral Statement............................................... 29 Written Statement............................................ 31 Dr. Govind Menon, Director, School of Science and Technology, and Chair, Department of Physics and Chemistry, Troy University Oral Statement............................................... 40 Written Statement............................................ 42 Dr. Gregg Beckham, Senior Research Fellow, National Renewable Energy Laboratory Oral Statement............................................... 58 Written Statement............................................ 61 Mr. Tim Boven, Recycling Commercial Director, Packaging and Specialty Plastics, Dow Oral Statement............................................... 69 Written Statement............................................ 71 Discussion....................................................... 80 Appendix I: Answers to Post-Hearing Questions Dr. Govind Menon, Director, School of Science and Technology, and Chair, Department of Physics and Chemistry, Troy University.... 98 Dr. Gregg Beckham, Senior Research Fellow, National Renewable Energy Laboratory.............................................. 99 Mr. Tim Boven, Recycling Commercial Director, Packaging and Specialty Plastics, Dow........................................ 105 Appendix II: Additional Material for the Record Letter to EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler submitted by Representative Haley Stevens, Chairwoman, Subcommittee on Research and Technology, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives...................... 108 Letters of support submitted by Representative Jim Baird, Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Research and Technology, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives.. 110 CLOSING THE LOOP: EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES IN PLASTICS RECYCLING ---------- TUESDAY, APRIL 30, 2019 House of Representatives, Subcommittee on Research and Technology, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, Washington, D.C. The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:20 p.m., in room 2318 of the Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Haley Stevens [Chairwoman of the Subcommittee] presiding. [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairwoman Stevens. This hearing will come to order. Without objection, the Chair is authorized to declare recess at any time. Good afternoon, and welcome to this hearing to review the State of plastics recycling technology in the United States. A warm welcome as well to our distinguished group of witnesses. This is going to be an informative and engaging panel, and I am looking forward to hearing your testimony. I'm also particularly excited to welcome Mr. Paul Sincock, a local leader from a city in my district, Michigan's 11th District, who has worked for the city of Plymouth for over 40 years. How special to have your leadership from southeastern Michigan here with us in the United States capital. It has been a decade since the Science Committee last held a hearing on recycling, and the challenges have only grown. During this hearing, we will examine recycling technologies and the technology gaps that prevent more of our plastics from being recycled, especially in light of China's new policy to ban the import of the most postconsumer recycled--recyclable materials, including plastics, which the U.S. and other developing countries have been shipping there for the past 25 years. While some businesses were selling China clean and well- sorted plastics, others were not. This was cited as a main reason for the ban. As we'll hear from Mr. Sincock, one of the things I've heard from local leaders in my district are the challenges they are facing in maintaining their recycling programs. As waste management companies are no longer able to sell recyclables to China, they are driving up their pricing to recoup costs, costs that fall squarely on our municipalities and our taxpayers. In many cases, U.S. cities are being forced to cut, unfortunately, longstanding recycling programs and are instead incinerating recyclables or leaving them in landfills, releasing dangerous emissions. Americans who are trying to do the right thing--our consumers--for our environment, are left unaware that their efforts are for naught. Yesterday, I wrote a letter to EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) Administrator Andrew Wheeler to express my deep concern that the Federal Government is not doing more to buildup our own recycling and waste management infrastructure to help cities and States with this newfound burden. I would like to at this time submit the letter for the record, without objection. Plastic, most of which takes hundreds of years to break down naturally, has been a particular problem. We're seeing record amounts of plastic in our water system, including in our Great Lakes, because we don't have the process to take on the volumes of waste that we are creating. Plastic is unquestionably convenient, and global production of plastic has soared from 2 million tons per year in 1950 to 400 million tons today. Most of our current U.S. recycling infrastructure is decades old and not built to process the amounts of plastic we have today. Likewise, our recycling policies haven't kept pace with today's plastic use. The last comprehensive Federal law to improve recycling is the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act of 1976, before I was born. The most recent publicly available EPA data on the economic impact of the recycling industry is from 2007. The Department of Commerce never acted on a 2007 GAO (Government Accountability Office) recommendation for the agency to develop a strategy to stimulate the development of domestic recycling markets. Instead, Commerce activity--or actively sought to build international markets. As a result, the U.S. failed to invest in technology and materials to make the recycling process more efficient. This is a familiar story about crumbling infrastructure, lost industrial capacity, and lack of leadership. However, China's new policy, while in the short term puts us in crisis mode, should also be seen as an opportunity for the longer term, and we need to start now. Our response should be to reduce and reuse more, but it is not realistic to think we can give up disposable plastic altogether. We urgently need a national strategy to build out our country's recycling infrastructure. It is our opportunity to seize. At this time, we must invest in research and development of sustainable materials and processes, as well as in standards. A concerted effort will make recycling more cost-effective for our local governments, while making it easier for the public to participate. In doing so, we can inspire a sustainable manufacturing environment, and above all, reduce emissions to keep our planet healthy. I greatly look forward to today's testimony and discussion. I hope it is just the beginning of this Committee's efforts to contribute to smart solutions in our Nation's recycling challenges. Thank you. [The prepared statement of Chairwoman Stevens follows:] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairwoman Stevens. And the Chair now recognizes Mr. Baird for an opening statement. Mr. Baird. Well, good afternoon, Chairwoman Stevens, and I appreciate all of you being here with us to testify this afternoon, and I really appreciate the opportunity to have this hearing about Emerging Technologies in Plastics Recycling. In the 20th century, American scientists led the invention of synthetic plastic materials. These discoveries were transformative. For the first time human manufacturing was not constrained by the limits of nature. The creation of plastic also made material wealth more widespread and obtainable. Now in the 21st century, we must lead again in the development of new sustainable materials and recycling technologies. Investments in these key areas will ensure a better world for our children and our grandchildren. The plastics industry is one of the largest manufacturing sectors in the United States. The industry accounted for more than $430 billion in shipments and 989,000 jobs in 2017. My home State of Indiana has the highest concentration of plastics industry workers in the country, producing nearly $20 billion in shipments. We have an opportunity to leverage that expertise to develop a new circular economy for the United States, an economy that produces, recycles, and reuses materials to reduce cost and waste. We have witnesses today from government, academia, and industry who are working together on those very things to be able to advance them. I look forward to learning from the recycling challenges faced by local communities and the new solutions, including chemical recycling and applying robotics and artificial intelligence to maintain sorting. Innovation in these areas will help the environment and the U.S. economy. We all want clean rivers, lakes, oceans, and healthier communities. What my constituents don't want are regulations that will raise the cost of energy, food production, construction, and technology. Costly regulations, like those proposed in the Green New Deal, would hurt middle- and working- class Americans the most. One of the wonderful things about the Science Committee is that we are not a regulatory committee. We are the committee of the future, looking to innovation and to solve problems. I'm looking forward to hearing from those potential solutions today for recycling plastic. Thank you, Madam Chair, I yield back. [The prepared statement of Mr. Baird follows:] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairwoman Stevens. The Chair now recognizes the Chairwoman of the Full Committee, Ms. Johnson, for an opening statement. Chairwoman Johnson. Thank you very much, Madam Chairwoman, and good afternoon to all. I want to thank you and the Ranking Member for putting together this panel to draw attention to the important issue before us. And welcome to our witnesses. Plastics have become fundamental to almost every aspect of our lives, from food storage to 3-D printing technology, and have enabled us to make great technological advances. With this progress, however, comes a cost. Some estimates suggest that all Americans dispose of 22 million tons of products that could have been recycled every year. We produce far more plastic than we can properly recycle, domestically and internationally. The extent of plastics pollution is becoming ever more apparent and more alarming. Just last week, a study found that over 90 percent of the river flood plains in Switzerland, a country with one of the highest recycling rates in the world, were contaminated with microplastics. It is not just mountains and the soil which are subject to plastic contamination. We have all seen pictures of large masses of plastics floating in the oceans and washing up on the beaches around the world. A study in 2015 estimated that 8 million metric tons of plastic end up in the ocean every year. By some estimates, by mid- century, the oceans will contain more plastic waste than fish, ton-for-ton. While there is little research to date, we should be very concerned about the impact on human health from all of this microplastic in our environment and our food chain. Complicating the challenge is China's ban on our most imported recyclables. As a matter of fact, it's put a couple of businesses in my district out of business. Too many American communities are facing tough decisions about whether they will need to cut back on what they recycle or even whether they can recycle at all. The news is not all bleak, however. There are a number of promising new technologies and innovations across all steps of the recycling pathway from collection to repurposing. These technologies are being developed through collaborations that span the lifecycle of the material and include both public and private partners. The goals of these efforts are to increase the efficiency and availability of recycling, repurpose more recycled plastics into high-value products, and ultimately, reduce the impact on the environment and human health. These are important efforts with a critical role for many of our Federal science agencies, as we will hear today. In conclusion, I want to echo a comment by Chairwoman Stevens. As we look to improve recycling technologies, we must step up our efforts to reduce and reuse plastics through better technology and smarter incentives and policies. I look forward to today's discussion. I yield back the balance of my time. [The prepared statement of Chairwoman Johnson follows:] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairwoman Stevens. Thank you, Madam Chairwoman. If there are any other Members who wish to submit additional opening statements, your statements will be added to the record at this point. [The prepared statement of Mr. Lipinski follows:] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] [The prepared statement of Ms. Bonamici follows:] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairwoman Stevens. At this time, I would like to introduce our witnesses. Our first witness is Mr. Paul Sincock. Mr. Sincock is the City Manager for the city of Plymouth, Michigan, located in western Wayne County, Michigan. In this role, Mr. Sincock is the Chief Administrative Officer of the city and is in charge of the day-to-day operations of the city and directs the city's efforts on recycling. Mr. Sincock also took the lead in implementing a pay-as-you-throw trash disposal system in the city and is a regular speaker on the topic of solid waste and recycling programs. He is also one of the first people who brought this problem to my attention. Our next witness is Dr. Govind Menon. Dr. Menon is the Founding Director of the School of Science and Technology and the Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Physics at Troy University. In 2018, Dr. Menon received a $3.2 million grant from NIST (National Institutes of Standards and Technology), one of the agencies that our Subcommittee proudly has oversight over, to help establish a Center for Materials and Manufacturing Sciences, which will focus on research into polymers and polymer recycling. Dr. Menon has a master's degree and a Ph.D. from Troy University. After Dr. Menon is Dr. Gregg Beckham. Dr. Beckham is a Senior Research Fellow at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL). He currently leads and works with an interdisciplinary team of biologists, chemists, and engineers at NREL on conversions of biomass to chemicals and materials and in the area of plastics upcycling. He received his Ph.D. in chemical engineering from MIT. Our final witness is Mr. Tim Boven. Mr. Boven is currently the Recycling Commercial Director for the Americas within Packaging and Specialty Plastics at Dow. He is responsible for developing new business models and growth strategies that monetize hard-to-recycle plastic streams in the Americas. Thank you for your leadership on that. This includes technologies to enhance mechanical recycling and chemical recycling technologies. He holds a B.S. in engineering from Western Michigan University and an MBA from Central Michigan University. As our witnesses should know, you will each have 5 minutes for your spoken testimony. Your written testimony will be included in the record for the hearing. When you have completed your spoken testimony, we will begin questions. Each Member will have 5 minutes to question the panel. At this time, we will start with the 5-minute testimony from Mr. Sincock. TESTIMONY OF PAUL SINCOCK, CITY MANAGER, CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MICHIGAN Mr. Sincock. Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I'm pleased to be here today and honored [Audio malfunction in hearing room] cycles and to get their materials in proper and acceptable format to the curb to allow our vendors to collect and process that material. We have to be able to do this in a cost-effective manner. The current market situation does cause us some concern as we move forward on the viability of recycling because of the costs that are going up. Without a viable end market for recyclable goods, the value of recycled goods simply goes down. The cost of collection, sorting, shipping all must be factored into the municipal equation. When the value of collective recyclables goes down, municipal costs go up. When that happens, the local elected officials have the challenge of either increasing the cost of recycling programs and collections or eliminating parts of that program and potentially landfilling recyclable materials. In my home State of Michigan, recycling ranges from programs not offered to a countywide drop-off site to a regional drop-off site to municipal drop-off sites to curbside programs with a bucket or a bin to curbside programs, which is what we use, is commonly called a trash cart you can put your recyclables in. If the cost of processing recycling goes up significantly, there may be a point from the municipal perspective where we are forced to make a choice on recycling or eliminating recycling efforts due to cost. Partnerships are key in our program between government, our vendor, residents, and end- users. For example, our vendor provides us with educational materials that we can use and adapt as part of our program to help educate our residents. From a technology standpoint, our solid waste and recycling collection program is pretty basic for our residents. We provide weekly pickup of solid waste and recyclables. If--they have a brown cart for trash and they have a big 65-gallon cart for recycles as well. Our mission as a municipality is to help make sure that our residents understand what is acceptable and what is not acceptable as far as the recyclables go. Our municipality alone does not generate enough volume of materials needed to provide the sorting and recycling services at a cost-effective methodology. Fortunately, we're in a region where there are large contractors, and there is enough volume to handle that. While recycling is the right thing to do, it is also a business, and we must be very aware of the business side of recycling. Some materials have limited end markets. Some materials are changing faster than the capital investment cycle to keep up with the changes, and perhaps future technology will allow us to expand end markets to keep up with the changes in materials. In our small Michigan municipality, it is our job again to educate our residents on an ongoing basis to ensure that the quality of our recycled goods is clean and acceptable. Municipalities across the country must have cost-effective programs that allow our residents to easily recycle materials rather than throwing them in a landfill. At a minimum, it must be just as easy to recycle something as it is to throw something in the trash. Ideally, it would be easier for the homeowner or resident to recycle a product rather than throw it out. Thank you very much. [The prepared statement of Mr. Sincock follows:] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairwoman Stevens. And now we will hear from Dr. Menon. TESTIMONY OF DR. GOVIND MENON, DIRECTOR, SCHOOL OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, AND CHAIR, DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS AND CHEMISTRY, TROY UNIVERSITY Dr. Menon. Chairwoman Stevens, Ranking Member Baird, and the distinguished Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for including me to this discussion. Chairwoman Stevens. Let's just get your mic on. Hold on. We want the world to hear you. Dr. Menon. So do I. Chairwoman Stevens, Ranking Member Baird, and the distinguished Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for including me in this discussion concerning the recycling of plastics. I've been asked today to talk about the recently established Center for Materials and Manufacturing Sciences at Troy University, but before I do so, let me begin with a few facts that will place a center such as ours in context. According to the EPA, currently, the plastics recycling industry is operating below capacity with employment figures comparable with the U.S. automotive industry. Undoubtedly, an increase in supply will increase employment and capital investment. One of the issues facing the recycling industry is the practical limitations on the large-scale recyclability of the existing types of plastics available in the market. Simple factors like color, odor, strength, and malleability determine the value of recycled plastics. Additionally, environmental concerns behind the breaking down of plastic products loom the industry. Currently, there is over 200 billion pounds of plastic that can be shaped, extruded, or otherwise transformed into new products. However, at present, the recovery rate for all plastics in the United States is only about 9 percent. Of the two main plastics, PET (polyethylene terephthalate) and HDPE-- high-density polyethylene--the United States has a recovery rate of roughly 30 percent. The need for more plastics recycling is made evident and undeniably provides a case for our dedicated center of research. The establishment of the Center for Materials and Manufacturing Sciences was made possible by a successful $3.2 million grant awarded by NIST. The center will serve as a fully integrated multidisciplinary research facility that will bridge various majors and academic ranks. During the initial phase of establishing the center, one of the primary focuses will be on developing a state-of-the-art laboratory in polymer recycling. This major emphasis will aid to advance capabilities and offer support structure for local and national industries. In the long-term, the center will help address plastics recycling from a holistic perspective with complex issues of collecting, sorting, and cleaning with characterization. Moreover, the center will assist to engender a well- equipped next-generation workforce to these industries through appropriate course and program offerings. Students trained at the center will participate and be engaged in real-life, real- time industry projects. In order to glean the larger issues at stake, at its inception, the center hosted a road-mapping session at the recent annual Plastics Recycling Conference held here in Washington, D.C. I will briefly discuss the three salient points raised by the nearly 200 attendees of the conference workshop. The primary issue facing the recycling industry is the supply of feedstock. If plastics recycling industry depended on the various States to supply their plant with recyclable feedstock, most plants could only run their facilities for a few days each year. The second largest issue facing the private sector is access to current technology. As the demand has continued to grow, there is an immediate need for resins with letters of nonobjection from the FDA (Food and Drug Administration). Collection infrastructure, sorting technology, and resin chemistry is limited. The third and final issue that was raised during the workshop was related to the environmental impact of the recycling process. The point is here--the point here is that the technologies developed must be flexible and incorporate universal utility because the market for material changes rapidly, and materials available today may not be available the next week. Overall, the above questions make visible a significant lacunae in contemporary research and plastics recycling that can be effectively translated to sustainable goals in the industry. The center will focus on short-, medium-, and long- term issues to be resolved to negate these existing gaps. The specific projects will be carefully selected, prioritized, and undertaken in partnership with industry, community, and other stakeholders. The nearly zero carbon footprint technology of plastics recycling must be scaled up to meet the demands of global waste reduction. Ultimately, the Center for Materials and Manufacturing Sciences at Troy University will identify, develop, and implement solutions to the problems in contemporary plastics recycling by linking academia, industry, and community. Thank you. [The prepared statement of Dr. Menon follows:] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairwoman Stevens. Dr. Beckham. TESTIMONY OF DR. GREGG BECKHAM, SENIOR RESEARCH FELLOW, NATIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY LABORATORY Dr. Beckham. Chairwoman Stevens, Ranking Member Baird, and Members of the Subcommittee, I really appreciate the opportunity to be here with you today to discuss the critical need for plastics recycling and upcycling and how foundational science can contribute to this. It has the potential both to protect our Nation's environment, as well as strengthen the economy. So briefly today what I'll address is primarily around two questions. One is how do we deal with the plastics that we generate today, and the second is how do we make tomorrow's plastics recyclable by design? So plastics, as certainly echoed in the opening remarks, are essential to modern life. We rely on them, and they made our lives better. As we all know, though, they're choking our world's oceans, they're killing aquatic and terrestrial life, they're in the air we breathe and the food that we eat. And certainly reducing individual plastic use must be part of the solution, but plastics should not be demonized. On top of this, today's recycling industry, from my perspective, being mostly mechanical in nature, is a downcycling operation. When you put this PET bottle into the recycling bin, if it is recycled, it's much lower in value because its material properties are compromised, and it will tend to go to things that are lower value like carpet or clothing, which still ultimately end up in the landfill. And so there's a very little--in my opinion, very little economic incentive now to do plastics recycling with the current paradigms we use. Of course, we all know that China has recently banned the imports of plastic waste as well, which is causing massive stress on existing domestic recycling. And so we need to think beyond today's recycling paradigm. And our ultimate goal, as, again, was echoed in the opening statements, is to develop foundational science that can transition us from a linear flow-through economy where this is sourced from petroleum and put into the trash or the recycling bin and likely is still not recycled but downcycled to an economy that is circular such that this material could stay in continuous use. And to this end, chemical recycling or the use of catalysts, microbes, or enzymes to break down plastics into building blocks and then build them back up into new, virgin- like materials offers a more sustainable, innovative, and I think profitable approach around which we can completely rebuild and rethink the American recycling industry. Plastics breakdown is very similar to the breakdown of waste plant material like agricultural residues that you would find from corn stover, for example. Plastics are diffusely distributed just like biomass is. They're costly to recover just like biomass. They're also incredibly durable and hard to break down, just like cellulose is. It's the reason why cows need four stomachs and we don't get any caloric value from celery, for example. The advent of a lignocellulose-based economy, as all of you know, required sustained investment in science and engineering and technology, and over the last 40 years, there have massive gains in the viability of biomass conversion such that the United States and the world I think is on the cusp of utilizing biomass for renewable fuels, chemicals, and materials. Dealing with plastics, just like with biomass, will require sustained commitment to develop these viable processes. One obvious option in the case of chemical recycling is to take this PET bottle and convert it back into a PET bottle that has the same properties. This PET bottle could be broken down using chemical catalysts or enzymes into its building blocks and put it back into another bottle like this. Conversely, and I think more interestingly, there's a potential for the concept of plastics upcycling, so put this into the recycle bin, break it down into building blocks, and then put it into something that has a much longer lifetime and a much higher value. For example, this PET bottle can be turned into building blocks that will go into a composite material in a car. It can go into a wind turbine. It can be made into Kevlar. It could be made into other things like this. This idea of upcycling or the creation of more valuable product from a waste material I think will incentivize the economics of plastics reclamation, which is really what we ultimately need. And examples like this need to be developed to help stem the flow of plastics into the environment and to landfills. Second, today, most plastics are made from petroleum-based building blocks with recycling as an afterthought. This is of course unsustainable. Foundational science in the last decade or so, especially funded in the United States has demonstrated an accessible bio-based building block portfolio around which we can source new materials to make bio-based plastics. At the same time that we're building new plastics, we need to think about how they can be recyclable by design at the end of their life. And in this redesigning new materials from bio- based resources, we should inherently design these materials to be recyclable at the end of their lifetime. In summary, more research is urgently needed in the concept of plastics upcycling and enabling recyclable-by-design plastics. In the last episode of the Blue Planet II, which some of you may have seen, Sir David Attenborough remarks, quote, ``We are at a unique stage in our history. Never before have we had such an awareness of what we're doing to the planet and never before have we had the power to do something about that. Surely we have a responsibility to care for our blue planet. The future of humanity and indeed all life on earth now depends on us.'' He was talking about the plastics problem in this case. So in my opinion, dedicated, aggressive, and federally supported R&D investment that harnesses the innovation of the U.S. research community must be brought to bear to deal with today's plastics through the development of chemical recycling of today's plastics, as well as thinking about how to make tomorrow's plastics recyclable by design. Developing processes that can achieve this economic viability should enable the creation of a completely new industry in the United States and enable millions of jobs. Thank you. [The prepared statement of Dr. Beckham follows:] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairwoman Stevens. Mr. Boven. TESTIMONY OF TIM BOVEN, RECYCLING COMMERCIAL DIRECTOR, PACKAGING AND SPECIALTY PLASTICS, DOW Mr. Boven. Chairwoman Stevens, Ranking Member Baird, Members of the Subcommittee, it's my privilege to address you on the topic of ``Closing the Loop: Emerging Technologies in Plastic Recycling.'' My name is Tim Boven. I am the Recycling Commercial Director at Dow in our Packaging and Specialty Plastics business. My organization is responsible for business solutions that enable a circular economy. Right now, what's been said, we live in primarily a linear economy where the goods we use every day are manufactured from raw materials, sold, used, and then discarded. Applying the principles of circular economy will allow us to optimize resources to minimize the extraction of new raw materials and ultimately reduce the amount of waste going to landfills. Recycling is foundational for circularity, and it's good for the economy. Investment in mechanical and chemical recycling will spur domestic investment supporting business growth. If widely adopted, advanced recycling processes could result in growth in new U.S. jobs and economic output. Dow believes plastics are too valuable to be lost as waste, and as such, innovation is needed to retain its value. Plastics provided many benefits to society, including reducing food waste, improving energy efficiency, reducing material usage, and improving functionality. What society needs and where the industry is now focusing is on effective recycling solutions that retain the value of plastic after its initial use. Collection is a key step in the recycling process. If the material is not collected effectively, it cannot be recycled. The U.S. recycling system is highly fragmented and variable, resulting in unequal access and confusion. The challenge equates to high contamination levels in collected recycling. Much of the U.S. has a single-stream collection with sorting left to material recovery facilities, or MRFs. Many MRFs are privately owned, and their capabilities vary widely. Most were designed for paper, glass, and metal. Technology and process improvements are needed in this space to improve the quality and consistency of the plastic coming from these facilities. Once we have collected it, we can recycle it. Plastics can often be much more challenging to recycle than other materials because of its low density and wide range of plastics collected, which may be incompatible. Innovation is needed to improve the ability of equipment to sort and process hard-to- recycle materials. Two terms commonly used to describe plastic recycling are mechanical recycling and chemical or feedstock recycling. Traditional mechanical recycling is an excellent first step in getting the value from used plastic and has environmental benefits. However, mechanical recycling has a significant limitation in the end-product performance and is only suitable for a limited number of high-volume applications. It is extremely difficult to remove all the contaminants such as dirt, inks, fibers, adhesives, et cetera. All are included in the recycling stream. All impact performance. Dow is a supporting innovation in mechanical recycling through application development, high-performance material development, allowing for the incorporation of PCR (post- consumer recycled plastic), compatibilization technology to minimize contamination. Even with these advances, mechanical recycling of all plastics is a significant challenge, particularly in high-end applications like those that require FDA approval. These challenges require innovation that cannot be addressed with processes like feedstock recycling. Feedstock recycling is an advanced recycling process of depolymerizing a plastic back to its original building blocks where it can be then introduced into the front end of the polymer manufacturing process. This process is very similar to paper recycling where it's taken back to fiber. Feedstock recycling has the potential to produce recycled plastic with virgin-like performance capable of being used in the most stringent applications. Dow is actively researching plastic conversion processes of pyrolysis and gasification. We have projects ranging from process technology through the effective conversion to plastic. Increasing recycling rates and expanding the materials collected will not happen on its own, and there are important steps Congress can take to enable growth in this sector. This includes support on uniform definitions on recycling so that new technology is not precluded, standards for mass-balance accounting to certify recycled plastic content, recycling infrastructure funding, and to support in the development of new end markets for recycled plastic. I've expanded on these topics in my written statement. In conclusion, thank you for your time and the opportunity to testify on this important topic. We believe the public and private sectors can partner together to advance innovation and accelerate recycling. Dow looks forward to working with Congress on these issues and answering any questions the Committee may have. [The prepared statement of Mr. Boven follows:] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairwoman Stevens. Thank you so much. At this point we are going to begin our first round of questions, and the Chair is going to recognize herself for 5 minutes. Undoubtedly, where we see challenge and identify challenge as a Nation, we readily want to turn that challenge into opportunity, and that is something that I heard from all of you in your scope of work and in your testimony. Mr. Sincock, I'd like to just drill down for a minute with you. Since these new changes from China have been implemented, could you just explain a little bit about what our small town of Plymouth, the city of Plymouth, has been experiencing with its recycling? Mr. Sincock. Certainly, the city of Plymouth, we have been--we're right toward the end of our contract with our solid waste and recycling hauler, so we've been OK at this point, but several of our neighboring communities, you know, we all talk, and are feeling the pinch and, you know, we have also had our contractor come to us and say, look, recycling costs are going up. We need more help. We need you to take a look at, you know, perhaps amending our contract, those kinds of issues. So we're seeing that there's more issues with the recycling, especially plastics, in trying to make sure that our residents are able to still have a program that is viable from a--you know, an operational standpoint, you know, that's not cost-prohibitive. And that's really where the--tends to be the trend is going at this point, is significant cost increases from our haulers and recyclers related to the product, and that obviously passes down to our residents. Chairwoman Stevens. And as you have spent time educating the public on the benefits of recycling or encouraging them to recycle, what challenges have you run into? What things have you seen that worked best in terms of recycling campaigns? And have you started to hear about this fear of cost? Mr. Sincock. Well, certainly one of the things--the big challenges that we have is do we back our recycling programs down? You know, we've spent so much time and effort building up the recycling programs, you know, our community has very high and impressive rates of recycling in Wayne County, but it also becomes an issue for our residents if we are going to back down from the really good programs that we currently have and the amount of education that we put into it. And it's a hard sell at the municipal level that--I call it the reach-out-and-touch- me level of government where, what do you mean, we're not recycling whatever the product may be? That's a hard, difficult conversation to have with our residents. Chairwoman Stevens. Do you see a revenue opportunity for the city in recycling or, you know, continuing to build out your programs? And are there ways that the Federal Government can help you to meet those goals? Mr. Sincock. Well, I think what the issue is on the revenue side is--and it depends on the municipality. Our particular contract, we wanted to stay out of the swings in the market, so in our particular case the vendor takes all of the risk as to market upside and market downside, so we're not affected. Our price stays constant. Now, we don't get the benefit of, you know, when recycling, you know, markets go up and the contractor gets to receive some benefits there, but on the flipside of that, we don't have to deal with the downside. And so that's--you know, other municipalities get--they split the value of the recycles between the vendor and the community. The community will get a small percentage of the recyclables. But as the market goes down, that percentage goes down to near zero or less than zero. Chairwoman Stevens. We have our storied traditions and best practices in Michigan with our recycling programs and our buyback programs. I think it's evident that there are certainly opportunities and revenue opportunities, as well as sincere environmental considerations for us to meet, and yet the onus is on our consumers and it's on our taxpayers, and it's sort of reliant on the altruism of our residents to recycle and to not throw--I commend all of you who talked about the greasy pizza box in your testimony because--at least two of you did. But in terms of how we're stymied or how we can meet some of our bigger goals and some economic opportunities. You know, I commend our last two witnesses for mentioning the circular economy and what that means for us and how in sync we really are. I'm out of time, so I'm just going to conclude with one of the results that we want to take from this hearing is identifying Federal opportunity to partner with you in your respective fields and portfolios of work to lead to increased recycling, meeting environmental goals, as well as economic opportunity based on technological advancement. And, with that, I'm going to recognize my colleague, Mr. Baird, for 5 minutes. Mr. Baird. Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Boven, the Subaru plant in Lafayette, Indiana, which is in my district, has been a zero-landfill facility since 2004, and that reflects a commitment by the company to have as little environmental impact as possible. Can you elaborate for me what Dow and the plastics industry in general has been doing to work with the front-end sustainability idea and not just the back- end sustainability in producing products? Mr. Boven. Yes, sure, thank you, Congressman. So at Dow I can speak specifically. We've had a series of 10-year sustainability goals. Now, we're in our third generation of those. They go out through 2025. And the sustainability goals that we have at our company are really around defining blueprints for designing sustainability into the future. So when you talk about plastic circularity in particular, the big initiative that we're very involved with is designed for recyclability. How do we help our customers, how do we help the marketplace design products that can be recycled in the end? Today, a lot of packaging, as an example, has gone to very complex structures, which create problems for the recycling industry. And so what we're working with them on is all polyethylene-type structures, as an example. And the reason we're doing that is because polyethylene is one of the largest- collected plastics today, so if we can get more materials into common materials that can be collected, that can help with increasing plastic recovery and plastic recycling. This is one example. We have a lot of initiatives of materials science in terms of increasing resins that can incorporate recycled content, as well as end market. We're working on new market applications so we can create new large- volume applications to create these markets that people say don't exist. This is where we're spending a lot of our time. Mr. Baird. Thank you. And continuing on in that same vein, in your testimony you discussed the benefits of chemical recycling. What's needed to scale up and bring down the cost of chemical recycling and make it more viable in the United States? Anything? Mr. Boven. That's a very good question. One of the things that we're looking at aggressively is, how do we address that very topic of scale? When you look at the petrochemical industry today, it's been capitalized around very large fossil fuel deposits. When you talk about using plastic as a feedstock, plastic is everywhere. So a significant challenge that we are working through and trying to address with value chain partners is how do we aggregate plastic and bring it to a central location so we can get the appropriate amount of feedstock to build the appropriate scale we need to be meaningfully effective? At the same time, we're working on the capital intensity equation to try to bring down the capital intensity per metric ton of product produced so we can put feedstock recycling located where the feedstock is, in this case, waste plastic. Mr. Baird. Thank you. Another question--have I got time I think? Dow and the other companies are investing heavily in new sustainable material and in recycling technologies. What's the market incentive for industry to invest in research in that area? Mr. Boven. Well, quite frankly, society is demanding it. The plastic waste issue, you can't turn on the television, you can't go to the internet without seeing it. And society wants solutions to this. So we look at this as, yes, it's a big challenge, but it can be an opportunity for those who want to make those investments today and work toward addressing the problem of the future. So this is how we see it. It's going to be absolute, and it's where we're putting a lot of time and effort. Mr. Baird. Thank you. And one last question if you will. Mr. Boven. Sure. Mr. Baird. How would developing standards for plastic materials and recycling help advance the industry in the United States and maintain America's leadership in that field? Mr. Boven. Standards in what regard? Mr. Baird. I was thinking about any of the things that relate to regulation of plastics or the quality of the plastics. Mr. Boven. Thank you. So one thing that will help certainly is to create definitions around what recycling is. Today, when we look at what people want and require, it's high-end recycled material. That's not going to be possible without advanced recycling technologies. Today, there is no universal definition of recycling. And as we look to bring forward new technologies, we want to make sure that technologies like pyrolysis, gasification, solvolysis, those types of processes are included in the definition of recycling. And this would be increasingly important as people look to put policy around. We know there are States that are having these discussions, and if they start putting policy around recycling targets, definitions will follow. And we want to ensure that there's broad definitions that don't preclude technology. Mr. Baird. Thank you very much. And I yield back my time. Chairwoman Stevens. The Chair now recognizes Mr. McAdams for 5 minutes. Mr. McAdams. Thank you, Madam Chair, for convening this timely and important hearing. And thank you, Mr. Sincock, Dr. Menon, Dr. Beckham, and Mr. Boven, for your testimony here today. In my previous role, I was the Mayor of Salt Lake County, and I worked to enhance our waste management practices to achieve our environmental goals, and it often aligned with our fiscal objectives. We found that they were oftentimes the same thing. Whether collecting green waste to break down and resell or capturing methane leakage for energy generation or landfill, technologies made our waste management greener, smarter, and less costly to taxpayers. So I'm excited today to have the opportunity to discuss how we can make use of new and forthcoming technologies to make our plastics sorting, management, and recycling more effective and profitable in recycle and upcycle applications. We've also seen some of the challenges as global interests in some--in some of our recycling has waned, and so--my first question is for you, Mr. Sincock. As boots on the ground in your town, what's been the most effective tool that you've used to help residents to improve their recycling practices, the individual practices? Mr. Sincock. Education, and it's ongoing and multifaceted. So it's mailers to the home, it's stickers on the trash carts, it's social media. All of those things are a critical element to ensuring that the plastics industry has a quality product to deal with. Mr. McAdams. And what's the most common request or complaint that your community voices about your recycling program or what have you done to remedy any concerns that were raised? Mr. Sincock. The most common complaint is that we don't recycle enough---- Mr. McAdams. Yes. Mr. Sincock [continuing]. And that--you know, it becomes a challenge as to how do we have a product that somebody else is going to use. Mr. McAdams. So, Dr. Beckham, in your testimony you said that recycling alone can save 40 to 90 percent of the inherent energy in plastics relative to the production of new plastics. Does this apply to both chemical and mechanical recycling? Dr. Beckham. Most of those statistics were currently obtained in the context of standard today's mechanical recycling. Mr. McAdams. Do we have good estimates for potential energy savings using chemical recycling? Dr. Beckham. Right. I think judicious lifecycle assessments, techno-economic analysis, as well as, just generally supply chain energy analyses are forthcoming, but we have looked at PET upcycling, for example, using chemistry to produce two composite materials, and they have shown over standard composites manufacturing can save up to 60 percent of the supply chain energy and reduce greenhouse gas emissions quite considerably as well. Mr. McAdams. It's promising. Dr. Menon, what technologies could help us--could help simply--to simple--simplify decisionmaking for Americans as they sort their waste into trash or bin recycling every day? And maybe that's generally as a question, but I've also--there have been some experimental technologies that I've heard about or haven't had the opportunity to actually witness them but--about single streaming both waste and recycling, and your thoughts on that. Dr. Menon. In terms of technology, the real issue is access to technology. It's one thing for academia to have instrumentation. It's another thing entirely for recycling facilities to have instrumentation. So perhaps one of the things that we should look into particularly from the point of view of academia is to make technology affordable. Can we reinvent instrumentation that is more affordable and more accessible? Recycling companies make pennies to a pound, so every dollar, every pound of recycling material matters. So they're not able to invest necessarily into technology, so maybe a new generation of affordable technologies is what we're thinking of at this point rather than reinventing technology as well. But, as was mentioned by Dr. Beckham, of course chemical recycling is--it's virgin territory in terms of large-scale recycling, so that is something we would be considering as well. Mr. McAdams. So I guess my question to all of you, and I'm about out of time, but what infrastructure are we lacking as a country? What--and what can we do to--as a Congress to further incentivize these investments in R&D and then deployment of technology? Mr. Sincock. Well, I think the issue for us at the local municipal level is where's the end product, and is there a use, and then how do we cost-effectively collect that material? And, you know, mixing it into a single stream is interesting. Mr. McAdams. I've seen the technology. As a Mayor, it was troubling to me because I was--the technology is there. My concern was is it viable and in experimenting with that, do we lose all the ground we've gained with educating our consumers on sorting going single stream, then have it fail and we just lost. Mr. Sincock. Exactly. Mr. McAdams. Yes. Thank you. I yield back. Chairwoman Stevens. The Chair now recognizes Mr. Balderson for 5 minutes. Mr. Balderson. Thank you, Chairwoman. Thank you all for being here this afternoon. This question goes to Dr. Menon and Mr. Boven. I had a question for all of you, but the gentlemen down there took my question, so, currently, municipalities set their own recycling standards depending upon what the facility in the area is capable of processing. They can vary widely from city to city depending upon the local infrastructure. Dr. Menon, you've touched on NIST's efforts to create processing standards in this space. Recently, the university, as you stated, received a grant to work on expanding this. While I understand the draw toward this, I remain concerned that the Federal Government is not best suited to achieve this goal. Ensuring that recycling plants across the country have the same processing abilities, however, would lessen the amount of plastic that needs to be exported for processing. Could you speak about what you have found in your research on this subject? Dr. Menon. Thank you very much for the question. I do believe NIST is the right agency. In particular, we don't have a universal standard when it comes to recycling plastics. If you look at the resin identification code, the numbers 1 through 7, it tells you the polymer content in a bottle. It doesn't tell you anything about the contaminants, nor does it tell you how to recycle the product. So setting these standards is a gamechanger when it comes to recycling, and setting standards is what NIST does. Thank you. Mr. Balderson. Thank you. Mr. Boven, are the suggestions that Dr. Menon offered something that Dow could see working in the marketplace? Mr. Boven. Yes, thank you for the question. Yes, the answer is yes. In fact, there's--this is--the Sustainable Packaging Coalition where that group has already developed and working toward developing recycling standards for packagers to put on their labels, both paper and plastic, the how-to recycle label. And it gives implicit instructions to consumers on the packages they buy on how to recycle it, whether it be not recyclable or store drop-off. Those types of instructions are put on it. That's a first step, and that is working at cleaning up the recycling streams today because one of the issues is you have wish cyclers who put everything in their single-bin collection system, which actually creates a lot of problems for the MRFs and you have a lot of rejected material because of that, so it starts with cleaning up what goes into the recycling bins first. Mr. Balderson. OK. Thank you very much. I yield back my remaining time, Madam Chair. Chairwoman Stevens. Yes. The Chair would now like to recognize Mr. Foster for 5 minutes. Mr. Foster. Well, thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you to our witnesses. Let's see. Most of the talk so far has been on thermoplastics, PET and polyethylene. Are thermosets and cross- linked plastics pretty much a lost cause for recycling or are there enzymatic systems that may depolymerize them and allow them to be recycled? Dr. Beckham. So I'll take that. So thermosets today are indeed very challenging to recycle because it's hard to get them to flow in the context of the mechanical and thermal recycling paradigms we have now. Thinking forward to recyclability by design, there is an emerging field in polymer science around this concept of vitrimers where you have cross- links that are able to be chemically broken down, so you would imagine taking a thermoset, a composite material, dumping it in, for example, to acid, and breaking that down into flowable polymers again. There's an enormous opportunity here for recycling. A wind turbine blade, which is a cross-linked thermoset, which we can't do right now, we grind it up and put most of it into the landfill or burn it. But I think emerging chemistries for recyclability by design for composite materials that would go into a wind turbine or car or snowboard or whatever have enormous potential, so---- Mr. Foster. And do structural fibers that are, you know, carbon fibers or other fibers put in, do those make life really rough for recycling as well? Dr. Beckham. Certainly, traditional polyacrylonitrile carbon fiber today is very challenging from a recyclability perspective. Again mostly, it's thermal energy recovery is sort of the place that's routed to. There are emerging chemistries from the academic community and generally the U.S. research community on ways to break down polyacrylonitrile-based carbon fiber, but that's incredibly challenging. So, again, I think we need to rethink how we're putting those carbon fibers together and think about recyclability by design, as well as lifetime performance---- Mr. Foster. And so by the thermal--you mean that is pyrolysis and gasification, what you're saying---- Dr. Beckham. As well as just simply burning it for energy recovery in some cases. Mr. Foster. OK. And actually, Mr. Boven, you mentioned in addition to pyrolysis and gasification something that sounded like solvolysis or something. What was--that's not something I'm familiar with. Mr. Boven. Yes, solvolysis. So solvolysis is a solvent- based process. It's commonly used for PET and nylon. Those polymer architectures are well-suited for that where you can use a solvent to break it down into monomer and then you can build it back up. Mr. Foster. OK. All right. So it's a solvent. Got it. I understand. I think I used to do that with Styrofoam and model airplane glue as a child. Now, see, look at that, there's a lot of common experience in that, the first time you tried to do that and it didn't end well. So what fraction then of the current plastic production stream are easy targets like PET and high-density polyethylene? Is that 80 percent of the plastics production that are things we ought to be able to recycle or are there just a million small streams that will all each have to be dealt with? Mr. Boven. Well, polyolefins are--polyolefins being generically polypropylene, polyethylene, are the largest polymer family used in packaging-type applications, non-durable applications, applications that have a life that's less than, say, a year. And those are the targeted--where we should put a lot of effort in recycling and recovery, and they have large end markets as well. So if you can recover those materials, you have the opportunity to recycle those and find homes for them. Mr. Foster. But is that 50 percent of plastic production or just another 20-percent hunk? Mr. Boven. No, it--I'd have to get back with you, sir, on that exact question, but those two polymer families are the largest. It's directionally just south of 50 percent are polyethylene-type materials. Mr. Foster. OK. And, now, according to Wikipedia, if you look at polyethylene terephthalate, a majority goes into fibers. And so is it--how do recycle fibers if someone makes, you know, a Dacron shirt or something like this? Are you really going to recycle that? The number in Wikipedia was about 50 percent going into fibers, and is that a whole separate struggle to even collect it in a pure stream? Mr. Boven. The challenge there is collection of textiles, yes. You have to collect it, and then you would have to put it in some sort of chemical recycling process to effectively recycle it. Mr. Foster. Right. And these are often mixed with cotton and so on, and so it's a difficult--are there any plausible ways to make that happen, to recycle clothes that are made with multiple fibers? Mr. Boven. So chemical recycling, feedstock recycling has the opportunity, depending on the technology route that you take. Gasification, as an example, is a technology route that can take any organic material, so it can be biomass, it can be fiber, it can be plastic. You can put it in there. That will break it down to fundamental syngas, and from syngas, we can do lots of different things with it. Dr. Beckham. If I can just add one thing in terms of PET mixed with cotton, which is a lot of polyester clothing, enzymatic processes are exquisitely selective to go in and break both the Ester bonds in PET, as well as the ether bonds in cellulose or cotton to make sugars and mixtures of these building blocks of PET. So I think there's a lot of potential there as well. Mr. Foster. OK. Thank you, and I yield back. Chairwoman Stevens. The Chair now recognizes Mr. Gonzalez for 5 minutes. Mr. Gonzalez. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, witnesses, for being here today. I first want to use this time to recognize the University of Akron's College of Polymer Science and Polymer Engineering, which is recognized as being one of the world's best in the polymer sciences. The University also does great work getting young students excited about the polymer sciences through their Akron Global Polymer Academy, which provides opportunities for teachers and students of all ages to experience the world of polymers by organizing in-school visits and field trips to the university's research facilities. They're doing a fantastic job. Polymer research and development has been huge in northeast Ohio, where I'm from, for my entire life and before it, so we're proud of that. I want to take my time to really just understand this a little bit better frankly. And my first question will be to Mr. Boven. I'll probably stay with you if that's OK. I first want to understand the interplay between mechanical and chemical in the context of the circular economy. It strikes me, as I read your testimony, that chemical is probably how we get there ultimately. I'm sure there's obviously a role for mechanical, but can you just kind of walk me through that for a second? Mr. Boven. Yes, sure, thank you for the question. So when you look at the--there is a relationship between mechanical and chemical recycling in the sense that we would suggest that, if it can be mechanically recycled, it should be. It should be because there's a lower carbon footprint. It's not as energy- intensive, and it can be deployed locally, right? You can do mechanical recycling at a very local level very effectively. The challenge with mechanical recycling has always been finding end markets---- Mr. Gonzalez. Right. Mr. Boven [continuing]. Because you'll have some polymer degradation. Products that cannot be introduced into mechanical recycling system effectively are the products that should go into chemical recycling because at that route you can address the contamination issues that come. And in fact, when you talk about MRFs today, on average, about 25 to 30 percent of the material going into a MRF is actually rejected because it's too---- Mr. Gonzalez. OK. Mr. Boven [continuing]. Highly contaminated to be processed. You can feed that into a chemical recycling process to then recycle the product. Mr. Gonzalez. Thank you. And then my second question, when it comes to chemical recycling, and I'll score these 1, 5, and 10, so if 1 is sort of we understand what needs to happen but we haven't really started developing, 5 is our tech is viable but we need to find business models to get it deployed more in the market, and then 10 is we understand the tech, we understand the business model, we just need to deploy and scale, where are we on chemical manufacturing? Mr. Boven. I would put us at a 5---- Mr. Gonzalez. OK. Mr. Boven [continuing]. Quite frankly. Mr. Gonzalez. OK. Mr. Boven. When we're talking about chemical manufacturing, we're talking about mature technologies like gasification, pyrolysis. They've been around for a long time. They have not been used widely for the purpose of recycling plastic, and so we're talking about putting a value chain together and different partners together to aggregate the plastic to get it to a chemical recycling facility. From there, you turn it into an intermediate, and then you have to integrate it into the current petrochemical industry. Mr. Gonzalez. OK. Mr. Boven. So we have to work on the business model side. Mr. Gonzalez. OK. So it's a combination of business model. Once we get there, then we can scale it. My last one--and I kind of hate to go here, but these paper straws, they are my pet peeve. I took my son the other day to get a milkshake. He's 1-year-old. We do this on Saturdays, paper straw shows up, the thing disintegrates before we're a third of the way through. He's also throwing whipped cream at my face, so, you know, all kinds of things going on there. I personally despise them. On top of that, only .025 percent of plastic that's flowing into the ocean is straws, plastic straws. They also require more energy to manufacture than plastics. So I kind of want to just have you give me some hope that maybe Dow is working on either new technologies, new bioplastics that are more efficient and better for the environment or that we're making progress on the sort-ability because my understanding is the reason why it's hard to recycle plastic straws is because it's hard to sort them. So give me some hope, please. Mr. Boven. Yes, we should take hope. There is hope, and I say that because plastic pollution is now widely accepted across the world. And you see collaboration happening across the value chain that hasn't happened at least in my 22 years in the plastic industry. You see industry partners coming together making investments like the Alliance to End Plastic Waste, where over $1 billion has been committed to fund solutions to drive the ending of plastic waste. Now, is $1 billion enough? I know $1 billion is a great start, and we expect it to continue to grow. When you talk about biodegradability or bio-based plastics, those are two very different things. We think the focus needs to be on investing in infrastructure to recover the plastic and retain its value. That's where we're spending a majority of our time, and we don't want to get distracted with other things that aren't going to have a meaningful impact. Mr. Gonzalez. OK. Thank you. And I yield back. Chairwoman Stevens. It looks like we'll be calling the T&I Committee after this hearing based on those repeated claims. The Chair is now going to recognize Mr. Cohen for 5 minutes. Mr. Cohen. Thank you. Good news for your son, a gift you can get him and I would get him if--and should get him and present to you, you can buy steel straws, and he'll have his own straw to get his milkshake out of, and it'll be real cold when it comes up, which is a nice feeling. Plastic does not give you that nice feeling, but a cold steel straw is a very attractive thing. On the internet you can get them--a set of 20 for $9.99, wholesale, Amazon.com. Mr. Gonzalez. Mr. Cohen, his birthday was 2 weeks ago. Mr. Cohen. Oh, wow. Mr. Gonzalez. We accept. We accept. Mr. Cohen. Would he still accept gifts? Mr. Gonzalez. Oh, absolutely. Mr. Cohen. Good. Well, I will get him one. Mr. Gonzalez. Thank you. Mr. Cohen. A set. I've got a friend in Los Angeles who's big in the Anti-Plastics Coalition, Dianna Cohen, no relation, and she's given me steel straws. And I don't use straws that much, but when I do, I find a great sense of tactile, you know, pleasure out of using that steel straw, which I never got out of a plastic straw or certainly not a paper straw. So this is a whole new day for everybody really. Now, I would like to ask Mr.--is it Boven? Last year, I had a bill which passed the House that said we would not use plastic straws in the cafeterias, and it passed, but it passed over the objections of Dow Chemical I think. There was a Congressman from--that worked for Dow, represented Dow, et cetera, got a lot of money from Dow, and he worked against it and got--wanted to get--water it down. Why can't Dow come up with something that is good for the environment rather than things that are bad for the environment and work against us making the environment better? Mr. Boven. Congressman, thank you for your question. Mr. Cohen. I'm sure thank you is not what you really meant, but thank you for saying that. Mr. Boven. I'm not an expert in the policy side or familiar with the discussion that you're talking about, but we can have our D.C. office get back to and address that question. Mr. Cohen. Well, that'd be all right I guess, but, you know, we--I think we're changing our policies, and we ought to be--like right now, there's a whole bunch of plastic bottles with water out there. We really shouldn't be using plastic bottles with water, and I brought it in and all of a sudden I thought, what are we doing? I mean, we've got these cups here, this is great, but we ought to be carrying around our own and pouring water into them from the sink. Potomac water is fine. Mr. Sherman. I second that motion. Mr. Cohen. And--exactly. Good work, Brad. And not using plastic as much as we can. It's reduce, recycle, and reuse. Well, reduce, and that's what you--we've got to do because it is getting in the water and animals are dying. The--you know, they found whales with tons of plastic in their gut, and they think it related to their deaths. And there's all kind of sea life that is being killed because of plastic pollutions in the oceans. So we need to stop using plastic as much as we can. Dr. Menon, do you have any ideas on how we can maybe create or use paper, something else, anything other than plastic? And I know this is made of plastic, but this is reused. Dr. Menon. Mr. Cohen, thank you very much for the question. I do not often know of a material that would replace plastic so easily. It exists because of the availability, the ease, and the versatility. So it is not easily replaced. But maybe there are plant fiber solutions that we could think of that would be easier to at least degrade easily. But I would like to make a comment regarding one of the statements you made. So in the Mariana Trench, which is deeper than Everest is tall, every animal species found had plastic in their guts, so this is where we are when it comes to plastics recycling. And plastics recycling in the ocean, that's an entirely--I mean, so that's an impossible task. It shouldn't get there in the first place. Mr. Cohen. Yes, well, we need to find a way to reuse or reduce our use of plastics and then reuse whatever possible. And recycling is great and I recycle everything I can, and I hope Memphis does a good job on it, but, you know, it's just a different--today, I went--and I'm very proud of what I did today because I've been obsessing on it. These glasses, eyeglasses, I like them a lot, and I've had them for long time. And I got them to replace a pair of sunglasses I had that I really loved. They were American Optical Saratogas, which were the same glasses that John Kennedy wore, sunglasses. And so John Kennedy wore them, I wore them. You know, he was in the House, I'm in the House. That's as far as it goes. And my sunglasses--I broke them about 15 years ago I think, and then I broke these about 3 weeks or a month ago. Everybody in the world tells you, you can't repair plastic, it's impossible, it's done. Well, I'd saved those glasses from 15 years ago, and these, and I took them to a guy up here at 750 17th, and he fixed both pair of glasses. You can't see the-- that they were broken, and these were broken in two different places, $70, they're back together. Reuse your plastic frames. Don't buy new ones. Get them redone, 750 17th Avenue, right opposite the Executive Office Building, great deal. And with that, I want to say I love The Graduate, but plastics, no. Chairwoman Stevens. All right. The Chair is now going to recognize Mr. Sherman for 5 minutes. Mr. Sherman. Thank you, and thank you for holding these hearings and bringing them to my particular attention. The gentleman from Tennessee focuses us not only on reduce, reuse, and recycle, but also repair, so the fourth R, but once you get through all four R's, there's a reason why we prefer, from an environmental standpoint, paper straws to plastic straws, and that is that paper is biodegradable. How close are we to developing plastic products that have the advantages of plastic, pretty much the cost of plastic, but are in fact biodegradable? Mr. Boven? You guys anywhere close to that? Mr. Boven. Biodegradable--biodegradable plastics do exist today. PLAs (polylactic acid or polylactides) are an example. Biodegradable plastics present serious challenges to today's recycling infrastructure. They are not accepted into the infrastructure---- Mr. Sherman. But they will--you know, a paper straw can't be recycled or I guess is often not recycled, but at least it biodegrades. How biodegradable? How long do you put it in the ground before it disappears? Mr. Boven. Well, Dow isn't producing those resins, but there are biodegradable plastics available. Again, from our perspective, when you look at biodegradability, biodegradability is not going to solve the plastic pollution issue that we have. We want to focus--we don't want to distract from---- Mr. Sherman. Well, why is that? Right now, we're recycling 9 percent, so it's 91 percent irrelevant whether it's a recyclable or nonrecyclable plastic; it's not going to be recycled. What is--what tax incentives or whatever could we give for biodegradable plastics? Does anybody have any proposal? Let me move on. We've got these islands of plastic in the--floating in the ocean, mostly plastic. There--is there any commercial value to that which you've subsidized could be used to be chemically recycled? Does anybody have an answer? None of our--yes? Dr. Menon. So harvesting the plastic from the ocean would be the problem. Mr. Sherman. Right, that's what I'm---- Dr. Menon. So---- Mr. Sherman. I mean, it's floating there---- Dr. Menon. Right. So these plastics are---- Mr. Sherman. But someone picking it up wouldn't be that--if we picked it up, what would--would we do anything useful with it? Dr. Menon. Yes, I think most of them are PET in there. Dr. Beckham. Yes, I mean, certainly, if you are able--if you are able to harvest it in an economically viable manner, it would probably be like the same plastics we get at materials recovery facilities already. Mr. Sherman. OK. So these pose a major threat to the environment and the oceans, with the proper incentives, somebody would pick them up, get some subsidy, and use those chemicals for something useful? Dr. Beckham. Potentially, but I think that the engineering challenges of going and harvesting plastics from the ocean are incredible and would certainly need a lot of investment to be able to do that at a scale that would actually make a difference. Mr. Sherman. OK. We have 8.3 billion metric tons of plastics produced globally, 6.3 billion becomes plastic waste, 9 percent is being recycled. The U.S. only recycles 9 percent, China does 25, Europe does 30, so our 9 looks pretty weak. And then you realize some of our 9 is really in Chinese landfills. What can the U.S. do to promote recycling internationally? Does anybody have an answer? Do you want to comment? I'm looking at four witnesses, all of whom are extremely shy. Dr. Beckham. I mean, I would say that---- Mr. Sherman. Yes. Dr. Beckham [continuing]. Again, I think the United States has the opportunity to lead the way from a technology development perspective to create chemical recycling technologies that will incentivize the reclamation of waste plastics. If we can do that in the United States, likely those technologies would be deployable outside the United States as well if they--if the economic incentive is there. Mr. Sherman. Is there any particular technology that you think the U.S. Government should be--you know, it's just on the cusp of doing something important but needs some research dollars or incentives. Is there any one area of research any of you would recommend? Yes, Mr. Boven? Mr. Boven. Yes, so research in creating new end applications would be very valuable. One of the problems that's been articulated is that there's not enough end markets for recycling, and so accelerating end market generation would create a home for recycled plastic. Mr. Sherman. My time is expired. Thank you. Chairwoman Stevens. The Chair would like to reclaim 5 additional minutes for questions. This is what all of the Committee looks like, by the way, on the Subcommittee for Research and Technology. I wanted to kind of glom onto something, Dr. Beckham, that you had included in your written testimony where you wrote, ``Given the amount of plastics in the food chain, plastics are commonly now found in the human body with potential toxicological effects that are not yet fully understood.'' And that sentence jumped out at me in a very stark way in part because I view all of you as the solution delivery vehicles of what we want to do on plastic recycling. You're on the solution end, you're on the problem-solving end. You know, we've heard a few comments. It's been couched within your testimony about some of the illegal dumping that's going on, some of the mismanagement, the missed opportunities to reuse, reduce, and recycle. But I was just wondering if you could kind of help me understand how we could understand these toxicological effects given that you are testifying before a House panel today. Dr. Beckham. I will note that I'm not a toxicologist, but with that caveat, I think certainly there are--there is a large research community that does toxicology and thinking about-- there was--for example, there was a paper published a couple weeks ago where they measured micro and sort of nano plastics in the air and found even in pristine environments that you can breathe this stuff in. How that affects the human body, how that affects animal life in general I think is still very poorly understood. And from my perspective I think that Federal research dollars could be put into the toxicology community to understand those types of things because we don't know. We simply don't know what the effects of those will be. Chairwoman Stevens. We find ourselves with a plastic paradox. OK. I wanted to capture that for the record. And at this time I would like to excuse my distinguished colleague, Ranking Member Jim Baird, who has an appointment to make. Obviously, this has been a robust hearing, and we've heard many rounds. I'm going to yield back the remainder of my time. That concludes--oh, Mr. Sherman has another one? Do you want to go again, Brad? Mr. Sherman. I was just going to ask one. Chairwoman Stevens. You can go again. Go ahead. I'm going to cede 5 more minutes to my distinguished colleague, Mr. Brad Sherman, who I am so glad joined us today, by the way. This is the full Research and Tech Subcommittee in action. Thank you. Go ahead, Brad. Mr. Sherman. It's been over 40 years since the last Federal law to promote national research and development program for improving methods of collection and recycling of solid waste. The law was a national effort to recover valuable petroleum- based resources that were filling our landfills. It sounds like a lot of what we're facing today except that the purport volumes are exponentially larger, and the types of plastics are different. We need to find the right balance between the Federal Government having a mandate and States and localities doing it their own way. What do you gentlemen feel is the Federal role here both in research and in mandating procedures at the State and local level? I'll go straight down, Mr. Sincock. Mr. Sincock. Well, I think you bring out a very valid point. Just in looking at our own statistics for the city of Plymouth, we've seen our materials that we've landfilled from 1992 go up from 1,648 tons to--in 2018 to 2,400 tons, but our recycling has also gone up a little bit during that period of time. So I think government--if the government is going to be involved in things, there has to be a national standard of what's acceptable. And I think from that--and industry can move forward from there at least on the collection standpoint. I agree with you on your plastic bottle there that you bring with you. In our case we've got about 30 employees in our city hall. One of our employees had the suggestion that we replace the drinking fountain with one where you could fill up your bottle. In just over a year, we filled up over 6,000 bottles. Dr. Menon. Mr. Sherman, thank you very much for that question. The Earth is our home, and charity begins at home. Not every industry is profitable from the get-go. Sometimes governments have to intervene and help start industry. This in particular may be true when you're talking about ocean plastics. It may not be profitable. There's no way to foresee how technology changes and see how if things will be done differently in the future. But as of now, if we have to clean up the oceans, we have to pay the price. It is where we live. So the burden falls on us, on all of us to help industry in cleaning up the planet. Thank you. Dr. Beckham. So I will echo those sentiments very strongly. I think that one of the roles of the Federal Government is to support research that will allow for revolutionary changes and step changes in the way that we deal with today's plastics, as well as redesign for tomorrow's plastics. And that kind of fundamental research I think will be really critical for, again, enabling a new industry in the United States using chemical recycling. Mr. Boven. Yes, thank you for the question. I would answer your question echoing my comments earlier about definitions. The Federal Government can help with definitions around what recycling is. This will be important as, again, advanced recycling technology is brought to the forefront. Two, I would say recycling certification, meaning that the advanced recycling systems that we're talking about depolymerizing the product, putting it back into the front end of the polymer manufacturing process, we want to be able to certify what was recycled and then give those certifications to our customer and so they can feel confident that they're purchasing recycled material, much like, say, wind energy as an example. And last, I would say the Federal Government can help in piloting programs. There's a lot of work being done at looking at new, again, end-market applications for recycled plastic, and so the government can help with piloting these programs to bring them to scale. Dow, as an example, is doing work with using recycled materials in roads and other durable applications like that. Mr. Sherman. I yield back. Chairwoman Stevens. Before we bring this hearing to a close, we obviously want to thank our distinguished witnesses again for testifying before us on the Committee today. I think you answered the tough questions as best as you could. You gave us some things to think about. I believe that we're going to meet the charge of this time. I believe that there is a rallying call. I represent a district in Michigan surrounded by freshwater lakes. I'm in a State surrounded by freshwater lakes. And as people hear the alarming statistics around the equivalent of a trash can or--excuse me, it's a dispensary of trash being dumped into the ocean per minute, that's alarming, going into the farthest trenches of our ocean and seeing that there's plastic waste there, that's not a result that any of us necessarily want to leave. But that's why I think we call it a plastic paradox because plastic has improved our lives. It has made it so that we can have food security and food delivered throughout our country and into the mouths of people and medical advancements. But we've got to ask ourselves where and how we are going to meet this charge. Does it fully fall on the consumer? I believe there are individuals who want to step up and participate in recycling programs and find an altruistic value in doing so because they should and because they have a municipality that enables them to do that. We have industry and public-private partnerships. We've got certainly great expertise that's researching this and understanding the chemical compounds. But we know we need to do better, and so we can turn to our colleagues throughout Federal Government and all of an interagency approach to meeting the technological considerations. I think, Mr. Boven, we'd certainly like to continue to hear from you on the work that you are doing on the corporate side, but as it matches with what the National Institute of Standards and Technology is hopefully going to bring forward. And we will continue to partner with you and support you. I will say $3.2 million with Dr. Menon goes a long way. The record on this hearing will remain open for 2 weeks for additional statements from Members and for any other additional questions that the Committee may ask of our witnesses. At this time, our witnesses are excused, and the hearing is now adjourned. [Whereupon, at 3:46 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned.] Appendix I ---------- [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] [all]