[House Hearing, 113 Congress] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] FEDERAL EFFORTS TO REDUCE THE IMPACTS OF WINDSTORMS ======================================================================= JOINT HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON RESEARCH & SUBCOMMITTEE ON TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE, SPACE, AND TECHNOLOGY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED THIRTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION __________ WEDNESDAY, JUNE 5, 2013 __________ Serial No. 113-34 __________ Printed for the use of the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology Available via the World Wide Web: http://science.house.gov U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 81-723 WASHINGTON : 2013 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; DC area (202) 512-1800 Fax: (202) 512-2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402-0001 COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE, SPACE, AND TECHNOLOGY HON. LAMAR S. SMITH, Texas, Chair DANA ROHRABACHER, California EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, Texas RALPH M. HALL, Texas ZOE LOFGREN, California F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, JR., DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois Wisconsin DONNA F. EDWARDS, Maryland FRANK D. LUCAS, Oklahoma FREDERICA S. WILSON, Florida RANDY NEUGEBAUER, Texas SUZANNE BONAMICI, Oregon MICHAEL T. McCAUL, Texas ERIC SWALWELL, California PAUL C. BROUN, Georgia DAN MAFFEI, New York STEVEN M. PALAZZO, Mississippi ALAN GRAYSON, Florida MO BROOKS, Alabama JOSEPH KENNEDY III, Massachusetts RANDY HULTGREN, Illinois SCOTT PETERS, California LARRY BUCSHON, Indiana DEREK KILMER, Washington STEVE STOCKMAN, Texas AMI BERA, California BILL POSEY, Florida ELIZABETH ESTY, Connecticut CYNTHIA LUMMIS, Wyoming MARC VEASEY, Texas DAVID SCHWEIKERT, Arizona JULIA BROWNLEY, California THOMAS MASSIE, Kentucky MARK TAKANO, California KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota ROBIN KELLY, Illinois JIM BRIDENSTINE, Oklahoma RANDY WEBER, Texas CHRIS STEWART, Utah VACANCY ------ Subcommittee on Research HON. LARRY BUCSHON, Indiana, Chair STEVEN M. PALAZZO, Mississippi DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois MO BROOKS, Alabama ZOE LOFGREN, California STEVE STOCKMAN, Texas AMI BERA, California CYNTHIA LUMMIS, Wyoming ELIZABETH ESTY, Connecticut JIM BRIDENSTINE, Oklahoma EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, Texas LAMAR S. SMITH, Texas ------ Subcommittee on Technology HON. THOMAS MASSIE, Kentucky, Chair JIM BRIDENSTINE, Oklahoma FREDERICA S. WILSON, Florida RANDY HULTGREN, Illinois SCOTT PETERS, California DAVID SCHWEIKERT, Arizona DEREK KILMER, Washington EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, Texas LAMAR S. SMITH, Texas C O N T E N T S Wednesday, June 5, 2013 Page Witness List..................................................... 2 Hearing Charter.................................................. 3 Opening Statements Statement by Representative Larry Bucshon, Chairman, Subcommittee on Research, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives....................................... 6 Written Statement............................................ 6 Statement by Representative Randy Neugebauer, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives.. 7 Written Statement............................................ 8 Statement by Representative Frederica Wilson, Minority Ranking Member on Technology, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives...................... 9 Written Statement............................................ 10 Statement by Representative Eddie Bernice Johnson, Ranking Member, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives............................................. 11 Written Statement............................................ 12 Witnesses: Dr. Ernst Kiesling, Research Faculty, National Wind Institute, Texas Tech University Oral Statement............................................... 13 Written Statement............................................ 16 Ms. Debra Ballen, General Counsel and Senior Vice President, Public Policy, Insurance Institute for Business & Home Safety Oral Statement............................................... 29 Written Statement............................................ 31 Dr. David Prevatt, Assistant Professor, Department of Civil and Coastal Engineering, University of Florida Oral Statement............................................... 38 Written Statement............................................ 40 Discussion....................................................... 52 Appendix I: Answers to Post-Hearing Questions Dr. Ernst Kiesling, Research Faculty, National Wind Institute, Texas Tech University.......................................... 64 Ms. Debra Ballen, General Counsel and Senior Vice President, Public Policy, Insurance Institute for Business & Home Safety.. 70 Dr. David Prevatt, Assistant Professor, Department of Civil and Coastal Engineering, University of Florida..................... 75 Appendix II: Additional Material for the Record Submitted statement by Representative Daniel Lipinski, Ranking Minority Member, Subcommittee on Research, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives.. 82 FEDERAL EFFORTS TO REDUCE THE IMPACTS OF WINDSTORMS ---------- WEDNESDAY, JUNE 5, 2013 House of Representatives, Subcommittee on Research & Subcommittee on Technology Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, Washington, D.C. The Subcommittees met, pursuant to call, at 10:03 a.m., in Room 2318 of the Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Larry Bucshon [Chairman of the Subcommittee on Research] presiding. [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] Chairman Bucshon. Good morning, everyone. This joint hearing of the Subcommittee on Research and the Subcommittee on Technology will come to order. Good morning, and welcome to today's joint hearing entitled ``Federal Efforts to Reduce the Impacts of Windstorms.'' In front of you are packets containing the written testimony, biographies and Truth in Testimony disclosures for today's witnesses. Before we get started, since this is a joint hearing involving two Subcommittees, I want to explain how we will operate procedurally so all Members understand how the question-and-answer session period will be handled. The Chairmen and Ranking Members of the Research and Technology Subcommittees will be recognized first. Then we will recognize Members of the two Subcommittees present at the gavel in order of seniority on the full Committee, and those coming in after the gavel will be recognized in order of their arrival. I now recognize myself for five minutes for an opening statement. Today's hearing will focus on how we can reduce the impacts of debilitating storms on our communities across the country. Even with improved forecasting capabilities and awareness, these storms can be unexpected and leave a trail of destruction in their paths. In addition to literally destroying lives, these windstorms shut down entire economies of a region during the time it takes to rebuild. Structures, while more resilient that they used to be, are still often not built to sustain high winds or storm damage that may follow these storms. Building codes, practices and performance standards can help, but oftentimes retrofitting an existing building is simply too costly given the relatively small risk of a direct hit of a windstorm. Federal agencies currently conduct research and development to help inform the resilience of buildings and communities, but it is not clear how each agency is conducting unique work that is not duplicated by another agency. I believe that a coordinated mechanism would help shed light into what is going on at the Federal level, and how it can be strengthened to ensure better coordination. Every year the Federal Government funds not only disaster relief but also billions of dollars in emergency supplemental appropriations when states are hit particularly hard by unexpected disasters. I believe that we need to be more responsible about planning how to deal with natural disasters. I am curious to hear from our witnesses if they believe better research could cut down on the dollar figure. Since the time that my colleague, Representative Neugebauer, introduced his windstorm research bill in late April, several Midwestern states have endured significant damage and loss of lives from powerful tornadoes. I would now like to yield to Representative Neugebauer for him to share some background on that legislation. [The prepared statement of Mr. Bucshon follows:] Prepared Statement of Subcommittee on Research Chairman Larry Bucshon Good morning, I would like to welcome everyone to our hearing. Today's hearing will focus on how we can reduce the impacts of debilitating storms on our communities across the country. Even with improved forecasting capabilities and awareness, these storms can be unexpected and leave a trail of destruction in their paths. In addition to literally destroying lives, these windstorms shut down entire economies of a region during the time it takes to rebuild. Structures, while more resilient that they used to be, are still often not build to sustain high winds or the storm surge that may follow these storms. Building codes, practices, and performance standards can help, but oftentimes retrofitting an existing building is simply too costly given the relatively small risk of a direct hit of a windstorm. Federal agencies currently conduct research and development to help inform the resilience of buildings and communities, but it is not clear how each agency is conducting unique work that is not duplicated by another agency. I believe that a coordination mechanism would help shed light into what is going on at the federal level, and how it can be strengthened to ensure better coordination. Every year the federal government funds not only disaster relief but also emergency supplemental appropriations when states are hit particularly hard by unexpected disasters. I believe that we need to be more responsible about planning how to deal with natural disasters and minimize the need for disaster supplemental funding. I am curious to hear from our witnesses if they believe better research could cut down on that dollar figure. Since the time that my colleague Representative Neugebauer introduced his windstorm research bill in late April, several Midwestern states have endured significant damage and loss of lives from powerful tornadoes. I would not like to yield to him to share some background on that legislation. We have a panel of witnesses before us who can articulate what it will take to cut down on the economic impacts and lives lost from these storms. I would like to extend my appreciation to each of our witnesses for taking the time and effort to appear before us today. We look forward to your testimony. Mr. Neugebauer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I appreciate you holding this important hearing today, and you know, one of the things that we know about wind, particularly in West Texas, where I am from, wind can be your friend or it can be your foe, and out in West Texas right now, my congressional district, for example, probably has the largest concentration of wind production for electricity really in the world, and so that is the time when it is our friend, but where it can be our foe is obviously when we have seen these deadly tornados that have occurred in Texas and Oklahoma and other states recently. And over the history we have seen where hurricanes and windstorms and tornados have caused a tremendous amount of property damage, but more importantly, it has caused the loss of lives. I think it is estimated that every year there is about 80 deaths and 1,500 injuries. I think in 2011, there were 551 fatalities. It was not particularly a good year, and unfortunately, we are kind of off to a rough start this year. And so what makes sense is to take research and technology and figure out ways to incorporate into our construction techniques a way to protect both the people that habitate those facilities but also to protect and mitigate the damage. As the Chairman mentioned, you know, it causes billions of dollars worth of damage, and if we can mitigate that, it obviously saves that money for not only the taxpayers but for the people that own those properties. I am particularly delighted with the esteemed, great panel that we have today, and particularly my good friend for a long time, from Texas Tech, Dr. Kiesling, and for his pioneering work on, you know, the mitigation of wind. So with that, the reason that I introduced in 2004 the National Windstorm Impact Reduction Act basically to try to coordinate all of the research that is going on and make sure that--one of the things that I feel very strongly about is that it is one thing to do the research but then we have to commercialize and use that research, and I think one of the things that we have seen is a lot of the research that had been done across the country has been able to be commercialized, and I am hopeful to hear more about that today. But NWIRP basically does another thing too that I think is important, and that is to make sure that we are efficiently using the taxpayers' money and coordinating this. So many times we have seen in all agencies everybody kind of has their turf, and since the wind issue has a lot of different parts to it, it makes sense to make sure that there is coordination going on among the various participants that are involved in that. So this bill, I think, is going to help protect lives, I think it is going to reduce property losses but, more importantly, it also makes sure that there is good coordination so that when we do come up with good ideas, that we can make sure that we commercialize them and that we can utilize that information in the future. So Mr. Chairman, thank you so much for having this important hearing, and I look forward to hearing from these witnesses. [The prepared statement of Mr. Neugebauer follows:] Prepared Statement of Representative Randy Neugebauer Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this hearing today on federal efforts to reduce the impacts of windstorms. This is an extremely important topic, particularly in light of the devastating tornado that tore through Moore, Oklahoma. According to the National Weather Service, that tornado was the widest ever recorded and one of the strongest. I'm looking forward to hearing testimony from today's witnesses about federal research and development priorities in relation to tornadoes and other windstorms. In particular, I'd like to welcome Dr. Ernst Kiesling from the National Wind Institute at Texas Tech University. As a fellow Red Raider myself, I have seen firsthand the tremendous research that Dr. Kiesling and his colleagues are pursuing that will continue to help saves lives and reduce property damage from windstorms. Windstorms can be devastating: every year, there are about 80 deaths and 1,500 injuries from tornadoes. Two Thousand Eleven was an especially bad year, with 551 fatalities caused by tornadoes alone. The property destruction is also devastating. When a family loses their home in a windstorm, they don't just have to rebuild their house--they have to rebuild their lives. That's why the research like that being done at the Texas Tech National Wind Institute and elsewhere is so critical. It is helping us better understand the mechanics of windstorms, and teaching us how to build stronger, safer shelters. The National Science and Technology Council has stated that America's primary focus on disaster response is ``an impractical and inefficient strategy for dealing with these ongoing threats. Instead, communities must break the cycle of destruction and recovery by enhancing their disaster resilience.'' This bill would help ensure that the federal government is adequately addressing disaster resilience and mitigation, which is critical to reducing the costs of disasters to taxpayers. I first authored the bill that created NWIRP back in 2004. NWIRP helps to improve building codes, voluntary standards, and construction practices for buildings and homes. It also supports basic research to better understand windstorms, atmospheric science research and data collection, and the development of risk assessment tools and mitigation techniques. Since 2008 when the original authorization expired, NIST, NSF, NOAA, and FEMA have been conducting related activities, but have had no direction from Congress on the actual NWIRP program or what specific research it should be conducting. My bill, H.R. 1786, is first and foremost a bill that ensures smart and efficient use of taxpayer dollars. It reauthorizes and improves NWIRP by clarifying research priorities, enhancing coordination between these agencies, and establishing stronger reporting criteria. The bill makes NIST the lead agency. This will lead to a clearer mission for the program and ensure proper accountability to taxpayers. It will also prevent duplicative research across the agencies. It also creates a National Advisory Committee on windstorm impact reduction, made up of unpaid, non-federal employee experts to offer recommendations on the program and its priorities. This ensures that industry and scientific recommendations are taken into account when guiding the direction of NWIRP, leading to a leaner and more effective program. Lastly, it creates an Interagency Coordination Committee, chaired by the Director of NIST, to develop a strategic plan, coordinate budgets, and report on the progress of the program. This will help Congress keep better track of NWIRP and guarantee transparency and wise use of taxpayer dollars. I'm looking forward to the testimony today and hope that the Committee will take up and pass H.R. 1786 as soon as possible. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Chairman Bucshon. Thank you. We have a panel of witnesses before us who can articulate what it will take to cut down on the economic impact and lives lost from these storms. I would like to extend my appreciation to each of the witnesses for taking the time and effort to appear before us today. We look forward to your testimony. I now recognize Ms. Wilson for her opening statement. Ms. Wilson. Thank you, Chairman Bucshon and Chairman Massie, for holding today's hearing on the National Windstorm Impact Reduction Program-or NWIRP. I would also like to recognize our Ranking Member from the entire Committee, Ms. Johnson, to our Committee meeting today. NWIRP directs four Federal agencies--FEMA, NOAA, NSF and NIST--to conduct coordinated research and development on the nature of windstorms, their effects, and on ways to mitigate their impact. The program also calls on these agencies to make sure this research is translated into practice. This work has led to advances in monitoring the design and construction of buildings, and increased awareness and preparation by the public. But there is still much more to be done. Regrettably, consideration of this program is timely as our thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Moore, Oklahoma, who are putting the pieces back together after a massive tornado ripped through their community just two weeks ago. As a Floridian and a survivor of Hurricane Andrew, I know firsthand that natural hazards are a leading threat to America's economy and Americans' lives. In recent years, Americans have seen flooded subway stations in New York City, earthquake damage in the Nation's Capital, the great American city of New Orleans submerged under water, unimaginable devastation in Joplin, Missouri, and now entire neighborhoods in Oklahoma flattened to the ground. There has, in fact, been a record number of declared Federal disasters in the United States over the last two years, and 2011 was the deadliest year on record for tornadoes with over 550 fatalities. While we cannot stop a hurricane or tornado from happening, we should do all that we can to make sure our communities have the tools they need to respond and recover from such an event. We as a Nation must invest in preparedness and resilience. Studies of FEMA's pre-disaster mitigation program have shown that for every dollar we invest in mitigation activities, we save $3 to $4 in recovery costs. NWIRP has the potential to dramatically bolster the resiliency of our communities and reduce the costs associated with disaster recovery. Unfortunately, experts have expressed concern that insufficient funding has negatively impacted the implementation of the program and we are missing out on low- cost mitigation opportunities. Because of this, I do have some concerns with the legislation we are considering today. First, the bill cuts the authorization level for the program by 14 percent. Second, it locks in this lower funding level for the duration of the bill. We don't have any reason to believe the agencies need any less money to carry out the responsibilities we assigned them the last time we authorized this program. And when we consider the devastating losses that have plagued the United States recently, this course of action seems irresponsible. That is why I reintroduced the bipartisan version of the Natural Hazards Risk Reduction Act, which will provide the program with an authorization level more appropriate to the task. This legislation passed the House by an overwhelming margin in the 111th Congress, and it also reauthorizes the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program. While they are differences between hazards, there are also commonalities and occasions where we should leverage resources. This Committee has an important role to play in helping Americans prepare for and recover from all natural hazards. By reauthorizing both of these programs, we can minimize the number of Americans who are harmed or killed by natural disasters or who have to face the challenge of putting their homes, businesses and communities back together. I look forward to working with my colleagues to make our communities more disaster resilient. Thank you again, Mr. Chairman, for holding this hearing, and thank you to the witnesses for being here today. I yield back the balance of my time. [The prepared statement of Ms. Wilson follows:] Prepared Statement of Subcommittee on Technology Ranking Member Frederica Wilson Thank you, Chairman Bucshon and Chairman Massie for holding today's hearing on the National Windstorm Impact Reduction Program--or N-WIRP [N- werp]. N-WIRP directs four federal agencies--FEMA, NOAA, NSF, and NIST--to conduct coordinated research and development on the nature of windstorms, their effects, and on ways to mitigate their impact. The program also calls on these agencies to make sure this research is translated into practice. This work has led to advances in monitoring, the design and construction of buildings, and increased awareness and preparation by the public. But there is still much more to be done.Regrettably, consideration of this program is timely as our thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Moore, Oklahoma, who are putting the pieces back together after a massive tornado ripped through their community just two weeks ago. As a Floridian and a survivor of Hurricane Andrew, I know firsthand that natural hazards are a leading threat to America's economy and American lives. In recent years, Americans have seen flooded subway stations in New York City, earthquake damage in the Nation's Capital, the great American city of New Orleans submerged under water, unimaginable devastation in Joplin, Missouri, and now entire neighborhoods in Oklahoma flattened to the ground. There has, in fact, been a record number of declared federal disasters in the United States over the last two years, and 2011 was the deadliest year on record for tornadoes with over 550 fatalities. While we cannot stop a hurricane or tornado from happening, we should do all that we can to make sure our communities have the tools they need to respond and recover from such an event. We as a nation must invest in preparedness and resilience. Studies of FEMA's pre-disaster mitigation program have shown that for every dollar we invest in mitigation activities, we save $3 to $4 dollars in recovery costs. N-WIRP has the potential to dramatically bolster the resiliency of our communities and reduce the costs associated with disaster recovery.Unfortunately, experts have expressed concern that insufficient funding has negatively impacted the implementation of the program and we are missing out on low-cost mitigation opportunities. Because of this I do have some concerns with the legislation we are considering today. First, the bill cuts the authorization level for the program by 14 percent. Second, it ``locks in'' this lower funding level for the duration of the bill. We don't have any reason to believe the agencies need any less money to carry out the responsibilities we assigned them the last time we reauthorized this program. And when we consider the devastating losses that have plagued the United States recently, this course of action seems irresponsible. That is why I reintroduced the bipartisan version of the Natural Hazards Risk Reduction Act, which will provide the program with an authorization level more appropriate to the task. This legislation passed the House by an overwhelming margin in the 111th Congress and it also reauthorizes the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program. While they are differences between hazards there are also commonalities and occasions where we should leverage resources. This Committee has an important role to play in helping Americans prepare for and recover from all natural hazards. By reauthorizing both of these programs, we can minimize the number of Americans who are harmed or killed by natural disasters or who have to face the challenge of putting their homes, businesses, and communities back together. I look forward to working with my colleagues to make our communities more disaster resilient. Thank you again, Mr. Chairman, for holding this hearing. And thank you to the witnesses for being here. I yield back the balance of my time. Chairman Bucshon. Thank you, Ms. Wilson. The Chair now recognizes the Ranking Member of the Full Committee, Ms. Johnson, for an opening statement. Ms. Johnson. Thank you very much, Chairman Bucshon, for holding today's hearing to examine the National Windstorm Impact Reduction Program. The last few years have been devastating years for natural disasters in this country. We experienced the deadliest and most destructive tornado season in U.S. history in 2011. Unfortunately, the trend continues this year with massive tornadoes in Oklahoma and in my home State of Texas. We have also had earthquakes in areas that don't usually experience earthquakes, including Virginia and Oklahoma. And Hurricanes Sandy and Irene caused widespread destruction and death along the Eastern seaboard. This Committee has an important role to play in minimizing the number of Americans who are harmed or killed by natural disasters or who have to face the challenge of rebuilding their homes, businesses and communities. By reauthorizing the National Windstorm Impact Reduction Program, we can reduce the vulnerability of our communities to disasters. Therefore, I am glad my fellow Texan, Congressman Neugebauer, been a champion for NWIRP and that he introduced legislation to reauthorize this important program. However, I want to express my support for the legislation recently introduced by Congresswoman Wilson, of which I am a cosponsor. The National Hazards Risk Reduction Act of 2013 would reauthorize both the wind-related program and the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program. I believe we need to take a multi-hazards approach to disaster mitigation, and Ms. Wilson's legislation would link these two critical programs through the establishment of a single interagency coordinating committee, creating opportunities for synergy among the various research activities. I also don't believe we should prioritize one hazard program over another as they are all important to producing communities that are resilient to any and all disasters. As a result, I hope that as we move forward with legislation we consider all of the hazard programs within the Committee's jurisdiction. And finally, it is clear that NWIRP agencies have not gotten the resources they need to carry out all of the responsibilities assigned to them by Congress. Thus, I am concerned by the cuts proposed in the legislation that is the topic of today's hearing. We simply can't afford to have these agencies miss opportunities to implement low-cost mitigation measures. In the end, strong and effective hazard reduction programs will not only save lives and property, but also provide us with meaningful cost savings. Thank you, Chairman Bucshon, and I yield back the balance of my time. [The prepared statement of Ms. Johnson follows:] Prepared Statement of Committee on Science, Space and Technology Ranking Member Eddie Bernice Johnson Thank you, Chairman Buschon for holding today's hearing to examine the National Windstorm Impact Reduction Program--or NWIRP. The last few years have been devastating years for natural disasters in this country. We experienced the deadliest and most destructive tornado season in U.S. history in 2011. Unfortunately, the trend is continuing this year with massive tornadoes in Oklahoma and in my state of Texas. We've also had earthquakes in areas that don't usually experience earthquakes, including Virginia and Oklahoma. And, Hurricanes Sandy and Irene caused widespread destruction and death along the Eastern seaboard. This Committee has an important role to play in minimizing the number of Americans who are harmed or killed by natural disasters or who have to face the challenge of rebuilding their homes, businesses, and communities. By reauthorizing the National Windstorm Impact Reduction Program, we can reduce the vulnerability of our communities to disasters. Therefore, I am glad my fellow Texan, Congressman Neugebaurer, has been a champion for NWIRP and that he introduced legislation to reauthorize this important program. However, I want to express my support for the legislation recently introduced by Congresswoman Wilson, of which I am a co-sponsor. The National Hazards Risk Reduction Act of 2013 would reauthorize both the wind-related program and the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program. I believe we need to take a multi-hazards approach to disaster mitigation, and Ms. Wilson's legislation would link these two critical programs through the establishment of a single interagency coordinating committee--creating opportunities for synergy among the various research activities. I also don't believe we should prioritize one hazard program over another as they are all important to producing communities that are resilient to any and all disasters. As a result, I hope that as we move forward with legislation we consider all of the hazard programs within the Committee's jurisdiction. And finally, it is clear that the NWIRP agencies have not gotten the resources they need to carry out all of the responsibilities assigned to them by Congress. Thus, I am concerned by the cuts proposed in the legislation that is the topic of today's hearing. We simply can't afford to have these agencies miss opportunities to implement low-cost mitigation measures. In the end, strong and effective hazard reduction programs will not only save lives and property, but also provide us with meaningful cost savings. Chairman Bucshon. Thank you, Ms. Johnson. If there are Members who wish to submit additional opening statements, your statements will be added to the record at this point. Chairman Bucshon. Now I would like to introduce the witnesses. Our first witness is Dr. Ernst Kiesling, a Professor of Civil Engineering at Texas Tech University and Executive Director of the National Storm Shelter Association. He has had a long career with Texas Tech University, serving as Chairman of the Civil Engineering Department and as an Associate Dean of Engineering for Research. He leads the storm shelter research effort within the Wind, Science and Engineering Research Center at Texas Tech. Dr. Kiesling received his M.S. in mechanical engineering from Texas Technological College and an M.S. and Ph.D. in applied mathematics from Michigan State University. Welcome. Our second witness is Debra Ballen--did I pronounce that right? Ms. Ballen. Ballen. Chairman Bucshon. Ballen, the General Counsel and Senior Vice President for Public Policy for the Insurance Institute for Business and Home Safety. Ms. Ballen has also worked with the American Insurance Association and the University of Colorado's Advisory Committee for the Hazards Center. She graduated with a J.D. from Harvard Law and an A.B. degree from Princeton University. Thank you. Our final witness is Dr. David Prevatt, an Assistant Professor at the University of Florida. He has been with the University of Florida's Department of Civil and Coastal Engineering since 2007. His research focuses on the mitigation of extreme wind damage to low-rise construction. Dr. Prevatt is a member of the American Society of Civil Engineers, on the board of the American Association for Wind Engineering, and a member of the U.K. Wind Engineering Society. Dr. Prevatt received his Ph.D. from Clemson University. Welcome. As our witnesses should know, spoken testimony is limited to five minutes each after which Members of the Committee have five minutes each to ask questions. Your written testimony will be included in the record of the hearing. I now recognize our first witness, Dr. Kiesling, for five minutes. TESTIMONY OF DR. ERNST KIESLING, RESEARCH FACULTY, NATIONAL WIND INSTITUTE, TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY Dr. Kiesling. Thank you. Mr. Bucshon, Mr. Neugebauer and distinguished Committee Members, I thank you for the opportunity to be here. You have done a good job of outlining both the problem and potential solutions, and pointed to one of the major problems that we face in not only lack of funding but lack of continuity in funding to do the research we need to do. One other thing I would point out is not just the loss of lives and the human suffering, but the anxiety that comes with severe events like tornados and hurricanes. And I will speak primarily on storm shelters or safe rooms, because that is where I spent most of my career working, and secondly, I think it addresses this last problem of anxiety and human suffering effectively. I have been part of the wind engineering program at Texas Tech since 1970 when an EF-5 tornado impacted Lubbock. I was Chairman of the Civil Engineering Department at that time. You can help make my day by telling me I don't look old enough to have done that, but I don't want you to lie. With your support, we have developed a world-class program at Texas Tech, unparalleled facilities--I have included a picture of some of in the report, a unique doctoral program in wind, science and engineering, and we have turned out about 20 doctoral students or graduates there, and they are taking prominent places in the professional community. Today we have very good weather forecasting that gives information on locations and paths of tornados and hurricanes but we still have to deal with the effects of severe winds, and even the advice given the public we have found in the last two weeks in Oklahoma leaves much to be desired. In fact, it is inaccurate and dangerous, some of the advice that is being given. So not only do we need to do the good work such as forecasting has done but need to convey a consistent message to the public as to how do you react, how do you respond to disasters. A focused approach to research and development and implementation is needed to reduce impact of windstorms on urban society. Many specific areas could be mentioned--testing facilities, a repository for windstorm damage documentation, and that is in process, development of computational wind engineering tools, implementation of known research into standards and codes, and others will speak to that, development of manpower to pursue meaningful research and professional practice, and then educational programs that convey sound, consistent guidance to the people as to how they react and respond to extreme events--extreme wind events. Property damage can surely be abated by improved building codes and by their enforcement. We have a tremendous problem in the lack of enforcement because that is done largely at the local level, and there are many disconnects that occur between the agencies and the researchers that generate good research and what happens in the field, and education, I think, is the best way to address that. We have particularly in the storm shelter area available standards and guidelines. We have an industry association, the National Storm Shelter Association, and we have a program that recognizes those storm shelters that comply with the standards. We have all types of shelters available today that meet these standards and guidelines and provide near-absolute occupant protection from extreme winds, yes, even an EF-5, despite some of the information that has been given, particularly in the last couple of weeks in Oklahoma. Some of the advice given has been deadly and wrong. There are many characteristics of the Hazard Mitigation Grant program, and Ms. Johnson, you mentioned that. It is an excellent program that does a lot of good things. The downside of it is that funding that is generated is post disaster so it is sometimes four or five years. We are just now finishing some projects that were funded with the Hazard Mitigation program with funding growing out of Hurricane Ike that occurred five years ago. So it takes time, and I think it is important that we have, say, pre-disaster mitigation grants of some type and sizable ones that can do preparation for disasters, not respond to them. I don't understand why the Pre-Disaster Mitigation Grant program was discontinued, and I am not saying that we need that but we need something like that that allows us to prepare in advance. There has been a lot of talk about shelters being mandatory. I believe that the states, such as Alabama, have set a good example, and that storm shelters for schools should be made mandatory by states that have serious problems in new buildings, and much can be done to improve existing buildings in that regard. I believe that mandatory shelters should also be for multi-family residential housing units, vulnerable populations such as daycare centers, retirement villages and so forth, nursing homes, mobile home parks and apartments. I think it should not be mandatory for privately owned single-family and multi-family residences--though incentives of some type would certainly be appropriate. So my recommended action would simply be that you have identified the agencies--NIST, FEMA, NOAA, NSF. All are experienced in administering large-scale programs and they work well together, I think. We have capable professional personnel that conduct research if they have adequate funding to do so, and I think if you look particularly at the programs that have been funded, the earthquake program and the prediction program in the weather area, you will see that we have unprecedented return on investment in those programs, and I would encourage Congress to make funding available to make similar investments in the area of mitigating the wind disaster. Thank you. [The prepared statement of Dr. Kiesling follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] Chairman Bucshon. Thank you. I now recognize our second witness, Ms. Ballen, for five minutes. TESTIMONY OF MS. DEBRA BALLEN, GENERAL COUNSEL AND SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT, PUBLIC POLICY, INSURANCE INSTITUTE FOR BUSINESS & HOME SAFETY Ms. Ballen. Thank you for the opportunity to testify today. My name is Debra Ballen. I am with the Insurance Institute for Business and Home Safety, a 501(c)(3) organization wholly supported by the property insurance and reinsurance industries and dedicated to mitigation, research and communications. As a research organization focusing on mitigation, IBHS has long been supportive of the NWIRP. We provided testimony during hearings that led to its initial authorization as well as the effort to reauthorize the program in 2008, and we have worked in partnership on a number of projects with all of the NWIRP agencies. We are pleased to be here today, and we thank you for your interest in this important matter. Given the broad geographic threat of windstorms, the percentage of our population at risk, the frequency of events and the tremendous toll taken, the Federal investment in wind- related research is much less than it should be. That said, we are not negative on a multi-hazard approach. A coordinated, well-funded research program as embodied in NWIRP is needed to pull together scientific information about wind hazards, wind engineering expertise that defines the connection between storm characteristics and loads imposed on buildings, structural engineering expertise that develops efficient systems to handle these loads in new and existing buildings, and national coordinated efforts to promote mitigation. We believe that IBHS can play an important role in these initiatives. The centerpiece of our research program is our unique world-class research center. Using a 105-fan array to simulate wind as well as full-size residential and commercial test specimens and other specialized equipment, IBHS can recreate a variety of highly realistic natural disasters involving wind alone, wind plus rain, wind plus fire, and wind plus hail. I would like to take a moment to show you how research and related communications contribute to our understanding of the destructive power of wind and the benefits of mitigation. You will see the power of wind in a video from the first public demonstration that we conducted at the research center in the fall of 2010. We subjected two wood-frame houses to a highly realistic storm that has occurred in North Texas and the Midwest. Although they look the same from the outside, the home on the left was built using a code as it exists in Central Illinois while the home on the right was built to a higher IBHS standard. I should add that the winds you are going to see were not tornadic. So here is a very short video of that test. [Video shown.] You can see just how quickly and how completely the home on the left was destroyed, and as you think about the loss of life and property had this been a real event with people inside the home that was destroyed, you can also understand the importance of research as a complement to communications in order to get people to pay attention, change their attitudes, and ultimately demand safer and stronger buildings. It is much better to learn this lesson in the IBHS's test chamber than from places like Moore, Oklahoma, and Miami, Florida. Along with stronger, safer building, we believe that mitigation leads to a stronger, safer insurance system. Among the insurance-related benefits of mitigation are a reduction in the frequency and severity of weather-related claims, a downward shift in the loss exceedance curve, better management of losses in rare but severe events, more efficient capital deployment, healthier private insurance markets, and less stress on residual markets. The property insurance industry's research priorities for wind mitigation are directly in line with policyholder interests: less physical destruction, less economic loss, less societal displacement, fewer injuries and deaths. Breaking the cycle of destruction so that residential and commercial structures do not have to be put together again and again will benefit building owners, occupants, communities and also insurers. In closing, I thank you for the opportunity to offer our comments on the critical role of mitigation research and the importance of NWIRP reauthorization. We urge you to move forward on this important legislation that will help to harness advancements in windstorm science and engineering in order to improve our Nation's safety, sustainability and resilience. [The prepared statement of Ms. Ballen follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] Chairman Bucshon. Thank you very much for your testimony. I now recognize our final witness, Dr. Prevatt, for five minutes. TESTIMONY OF DR. DAVID PREVATT, ASSISTANT PROFESSOR, DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AND COASTAL ENGINEERING, UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA Dr. Prevatt. Chairman Bucshon, Chairman Massie and honorable Subcommittee Members, my name is David Prevatt. I am here to advocate on behalf of the American people for the creation of wind hazard-resilient communities within the next ten years. I believe the reason we don't have this already is that no one has been bold enough or committed enough to demand it. I wish to add the support of the American Society of Civil Engineers and the American Association for Wind Engineering and my own support for H.R. 1786. These organizations have been working for the past ten years since Congressman Randy Neugebauer of Texas first proposed this legislation. We also support the transfer of leadership to the National Institute of Standards and Technology. Since Professor Fujita first published his Fujita Scale in 1971 and his report on the Lubbock tornado, our populations in the Tornado Alley has grown 50 percent. What does that mean? We have more schools, we have more hospitals, commercial spaces and certainly a lot more houses. It is not complicated. There are today more objects in harm's way than there were before. Also, since the 1970s as well, NOAA and the National Severe Storms Laboratory has invested heavily in weather infrastructure, over $167 million over the last ten years, in better research to predict unstable weather, in providing warnings of tornados, in more equipment, forecasting products. The public is aware of this and confident in its use, and private sector has stepped up to mine it. We can get forecasting information on our smartphones. It is not complicated: longer lead times before tornado strikes reduce loss of life. In parallel, the 1970 Texas Tech University's wind engineering faculty, they initiated the first building damage studies after the Lubbock tornado, documented problems with houses, how they are made. Modern houses still have those problems. Houses have smaller nails, fewer nails than they once were in the 1940s. Connections are inadequate. They cannot resist tornado loads. Houses are insufficiently anchored to the foundations and they rock very easily. There are no vertical load paths in the houses built in Tornado Alley, and I can attest. I was there in Moore, Oklahoma, two weeks ago. It is not complicated. The result is more houses, more poorly built houses, and more property loss and disruption of our communities. Tornados now, damage has increased two and a half times since the 1970 Lubbock tornado. So my message today is not complicated. It is simply to tell our representatives that the people of the United States want to live in tornado-resilient communities. They also deserve to live there without fear. A tornado-resilient community is one where all schools have shelters or at least safer spaces that afford some protection to our children; that our hospitals and emergency buildings are all hardened against tornados, wind hazards and earthquakes; that our houses are built so that fewer will be completely destroyed, destroying the lives and some will be repairable after a tornado, civil infrastructure are designed for tornados and that the private sector has the research backing to work to economically develop affordable and weather-resilient houses. Really, it is not complicated. The wind engineering and structural engineering communities stand ready to begin this work. We have been ready for ten years. And with your support, we can begin this task to provide for our people. To get there, please support H.R. 1786, authorize its funding and sustain support for the wind engineering and structural engineering communities for our houses. Let us mobilize community leaders to upgrade their building codes and include vertical load path provisions in all buildings, in all buildings. Support our research community to work with innovative private-sector companies to design buildings and build resilient and sustainable 21st-century houses. It can be done. Advance the wind and structural engineering research program, support your faculty that would provide these solutions to these existing problems. Honorable Members, it really isn't complicated. Thank you. [The prepared statement of Dr. Prevatt follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] Chairman Bucshon. Thank you very much. I want to thank all the witnesses for your testimony. It is a fascinating subject. I want to remind the Members that the Committee rules limit questioning to five minutes. The Chair will at this point open the round of questions. I recognize myself for five minutes. Ms. Ballen and Dr. Prevatt, initially, what are the stepping stones that are preventing us from building better homes? I mean, what is the rate limiting steps? Why, even with all the information we have out there, why don't we do it? Ms. Ballen. Well, we have actually developed a strategic plan at IBHS that I think responds to your question, and that is, first we need to get people to pay attention. We have the research capabilities. These fine universities, work that groups like ours have done, provide the technical answers but we need people to understand them, and the video that you saw I think as an example of getting people to pay attention. That video has actually been on the Today show, it has been on the Weather Channel. People have seen that and begun to think about ``gee, how do I make that not happen?'' So the next step is getting them to change their minds and getting them to value that stronger roof instead of a granite countertop, and once individuals are making those choices, we as a society need to rise up and really demand, demand to be in a community with a better building code or demand, you know, that Congress, you know, enacts these types of legislation. I think a lot of people just don't--they haven't gotten that first step so they can't get to the second step and the third step, and that is at least, you know, perspective on that. Dr. Prevatt? Dr. Prevatt. What I would add to that is, we still lack the knowledge of designing buildings for tornados. There has been a dearth of research in wind engineering that supported the faculty working on wind engineering matters. We had the zenith in the 1980s and since that time there just has not been the research there. Currently, we are trying to understand how the tornado loads interact on a particular building, how the load paths have to be improved in order to do that. So part of the problem is not only do people need to be initiated to want to change, we have to provide an opportunity and knowledge of how they can change. Chairman Bucshon. Thank you. I can tell you, I was in health care before, and there is a powerful motivating factor for people and it is called denial, and it is a very difficult thing to overcome when people see what is the statistical chance of their home being hit and convincing them that they need to have that home built with higher standards. It is very, very difficult thing to overcome as well as messaging why that is the case. Dr. Kiesling, this is my own personal question. Has there been any--is there research out there on not only telling us where tornados are and where they are going but how to divert them away from urban centers? Dr. Kiesling. I think the first part of that question, the answer is yes. Certainly, the people are doing an excellent job of predicting the path and where the tornados are. I don't see any hope of diverting, though we occasionally hear from people who have proposals for that. In the first place, we don't know where they are going to occur far enough in advance, and secondly, there is a tremendous amount of energy there that has to be dealt with in trying to divert them, so I frankly, personally do not have much hope for that. Chairman Bucshon. Or dissipate them, for example, and dissipate the energy or anything like that? Dr. Kiesling. Hopefully it can work. I have to depend on, I guess, the next generation to come up with solutions there because I simply do not see how we can dissipate or divert tornados. Chairman Bucshon. Okay. Is there a--describe the difference in research between straight-line winds and tornadic winds. Is there a big difference there? Dr. Kiesling. Well, straight-line winds generally, we know what pressures they exert on buildings and they are pretty predictable, but in a tornado or hurricane, the variations are great and I think we need to know a lot more about not only the intensity but the variation and the characteristics of extreme winds so that we can better deal with them. We are making progress, but again, it is a long, slow process and requires manpower that is hard to come by. Chairman Bucshon. Do you have a comment, Doctor? Dr. Prevatt. I would add that in tornados as well, we have something that we don't understand, which is vertical suction below the vortex, and that has never been, you know, understood in terms of how it reacts or interacts with the winds that are ensuing into the tornado. Chairman Bucshon. Thank you very much. My time is about to expire so I will now recognize Ms. Wilson for her line of questioning. Ms. Wilson. Thank you. In her testimony, Ms. Ballen states that wind hazard research has been underfunded for decades. The other witnesses also express a similar sentiment in their testimonies. All of you indicate that NWIRP has never been implemented in any meaningful way because of lack of resources. What opportunities are we missing by not providing the program with, as Dr. Kiesling puts, a reliable, sustained source of funding for maturation and expansion? Dr. Prevatt. I think we just have to look at the earthquake engineering program and see what benefits we have gained from that. We are talking about something that has been funded to the level of, you know, millions of dollars per year. Literally all other wind engineering research over the last ten years at the top wind engineering schools amounts to about $1 million per year. We are talking about, and I have seen it, Joplin, Missouri, Tuscaloosa and Moore, Oklahoma. We are talking about $2 billion, $3 billion and $5 billion. Those are the numbers, and we simply are not addressing them. What has happened over the time, unfortunately, is there has been attrition of wind engineering faculty. Structural engineering faculty no longer study how to make houses stronger, you know, commercial structures and so on, and these are the areas where we have the most damage, the most dollars lost and the most lives affected. Ms. Ballen. I agree certainly with everything that Dr. Prevatt just said. I think our feeling is that if there were more money that were in this program, or money in this program, since there really hasn't been money in this program. You know, we have identified in a broad way the areas where we think we could really lead to progress, and the first is enhanced understanding of the events themselves, and different issues in terms of understanding tornados and understanding hurricanes but certainly it starts with the science and the meteorology of that. The second is understanding the connections between those events and the built environment. We are doing some of that at the IBHS research center but certainly more could be done through enhanced funding through NWIRP of universities and others. We re-create the nature and then we see how nature reacts to the built environment, homes and small businesses. The third area is identifying those mitigation measures that actually work, the tornado-proof home or even in the area of hurricanes where we know a lot more. There is still a lot more to be learned about how to make those structures better able to sustain nature. And the final thing would be making sure that the tests that our products and standards are based on really do accurately reflect the real world. What we saw in the auto safety arena was that everyone could build a car that withstood the first NHTSA tests because they knew exactly what they needed to build to, and that didn't necessarily mean it was safe in the real world. And so we need to develop testing standards that actually do reflect what we learned from the first side in terms of the real-world weather events. As far as the funding levels are concerned, as you identified in your opening statement, you know, whatever the level is, and more is obviously better from the perspective, I think, of all of the panelists that are here but you also identified that the static funding is a problem. If the idea of the program is some of these are short-, some of these are medium- and some of these are long-term events, if you fund it sort of at the same level throughout the three-year period or whatever the period is, you get everything started and then you can't identify anything new in the second and third year. So we certainly would recommend at least modest upticks as you go forward so that, you know, we can make sure that we can start what we finish but also start other things that are identified in the early years of the program. Ms. Wilson. Dr. Kiesling, do you have any response? Dr. Kiesling. Sorry. What was the question? Did you ask me if I needed to add anything? Ms. Wilson. Do you want to add anything about the lack of funding? Dr. Kiesling. I think, again, not only the level of funding but the continuity is a problem because particularly with young faculty because young faculty are under tremendous pressure to produce research to generate funding, to publish, and if they have areas where that funding is more readily available and dependable, then they are going to go to those areas. So it is very difficult for us to recruit young faculty into wind engineering, for example, because of the lack of continuity of funding. Ms. Wilson. Thank you. Chairman Bucshon. The Chair now recognizes Mr. Schweikert for his questioning. Mr. Schweikert. Mr. Chairman, I would like to yield to the sponsor of the bill, Mr. Neugebauer. Mr. Neugebauer. And I appreciate the gentleman. You know, I think one of the things that we want to happen here, and it has been alluded to by the witnesses, is getting people to build buildings that will mitigate some of the potential damage and loss of life. You know, I think one of the misnomers out there is that you have to build Fort Knox so that the cost of building that, you know, is not economic because of the probability that event happening versus the cost of doing it, and so one of the things I think I am very big on is using the carrot, you know, rather than the stick. And so I have a couple of questions. One of those, do you see within--for example, many of these losses of property were insured losses, and so obviously the insurance industry has a huge interest, you know, in this issue. Two things. Do you see them recognizing a difference in homes or buildings built to different standards so that there is incentive for homeowners or people building a building to, you know, spend the extra dollars to do that? So that would be my first question. Ms. Ballen. Let me take that one since I know a little bit about that issue. We look at property mitigation in two ways. One are building codes and one are efforts to go above building codes. Building codes, as much as we support them, are really intended for life safety as opposed to property protection, and so while obviously a code-built home is better in many ways, if the issue is property protection, I think that is not necessarily what an individual insurer is likely to consider the best possible. IBHS has developed a voluntary standard. It is called Fortified Home or Fortified for Safer Living, and does go above code. It is hazard-specific. So we try to identify the types of building construction techniques that will help for specific hazards. Again, every insurance company does make its own decisions but several states have recognized Fortified and requiring insurance companies to do that in their filings. So we do have a little bit of a track record in Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, South Carolina, and we are seeing that companies are in fact individually making decisions in terms of filing. That said, I want to emphasize that the types of things that are in Fortified are not unaffordable. They are relatively low-cost improvements that a homeowner can make. I am talking about a couple of thousand dollars generally, particularly in an area that already has a code. One of our partners in terms of Fortified for Safer Building is Habitat for Humanity. They are actually the largest builder in this country at this point in time, and we have partnered with Habitat on a number of Fortified homes in hurricane-prone areas and in other areas and so if we can get those Fortified standards into a Habitat home, you know that those are not unaffordable standards. It is a question of sort of being there at the time when decisions are being made. You know, to say to someone that has a roof on a home, this is not a good roof, you need to take off this roof and put a whole other roof on is a very expensive proposition, but if you are at the point where a homeowner is replacing a roof or needs to replace a roof because the first roof has blown off, it doesn't cost that much more to build to a Fortified standard. Mr. Neugebauer. I think one of the things that--another theme of this particular legislation but I think a theme that we hear a number of the people up here talk about is, you know, dissemination of that information and coordination of that information, and so, for example, this research, for example, do you sit down with, say, industry participants, say, the national home builders, for example, and share, you know, this information and introduce a dialog with them to make sure that they are being made aware of this? Ms. Ballen. We certainly have started that. They started out rather negative and skeptical of IBHS and our capabilities and our mitigation messages but we have invited them all to our research center. They see that $40 million facility, they see that fan capability and they realize that we are very serious about doing the research and doing the communications and that has led to a much more constructive dialog. There are a number of organizations that we have had longstanding, very positive relationships with, and I should mention the ASCE is probably one of our strongest partners here in Washington and at the state level and certainly at the technical level as well. They have visited our research center. The architects are another group that we are trying to encourage young architects in architectural schools to incorporate stronger building into their curricula. So we are reaching out to a number of organizations. Our companies reach out to their policyholders. We try to leverage those relationships to try to get the word out into social media, which of course is huge in all areas and is huge after disasters. We are trying to make that part of the mitigation movement as well. Mr. Neugebauer. Okay. I thank the gentleman for yielding. Chairman Bucshon. I now recognize Ms. Johnson for her line of questioning, five minutes. Ms. Johnson. Thank you very much. Just as a follow-up to the course of questioning, I can't forget the image of seeing the one lone house that remained standing during Hurricane Ike in Galveston, only to think how did it survive out there alone, to find later that the entire neighborhood was devastated and that house survived, and it was because they had used the type of materials that would resist many winds. How do we--I just heard your comments from the standpoint of encouraging architects but it seems to me that local ordinances when permission is gotten for building has to be involved. How do we do that without making it seem that this is big government trying to boss everybody? But I should think that insurance companies should be very interested in having resilience in the building as well as governments. You know, with the ability of our satellite system to predict, we have gone a long way in saving lives but we haven't done nearly as well in saving property, and that is a major concern in an economy like today. How do you see that responsibility fitting where and what can we do? Dr. Kiesling. Representative Johnson, one thing I would tell you about that is one building that you saw in Ike, I saw one building or one neighborhood in Moore, Oklahoma, that had hurricane ties, something that actually would hold the roof down to the wall, just one out of thousands and thousands that we looked at. Essentially, we have to do a better argument to convince individuals, as Ms. Ballen said, that this is something that they ought to think about instead of that granite countertop. Let us look back at ourselves 100 years ago, our large cities--Chicago, New York, San Francisco--we all faced fire considerations. Blocks and blocks were burning down. It was at that time that those city leaders, legislators, politicians and the public got together and said enough is enough; if Chicago is going to survive, we are going to have to, you know, all pull in one direction, and that is what we did. And we can do it again. We have the ability to do it again. I think right now the public is generally fearful of tornados, fearful of the wind hazard, and they believe we don't have the talent to do it. I think if we have put a man on the moon, we could pretty much keep a roof on a house. Ms. Ballen. I certainly agree with that statement. We are very strong supporters of building codes, and about a year ago, we did a little study. We called it ``Rating the States,'' and we looked at the building-code regimes from Texas to Maine in the coastal states on a one to one--a zero to 100 scale. The scores ranged from four to 95. So there was quite a range. And I will tell you that as a public communications vehicle, a lot of people may not know what a building code is but they know that is good to have a high score and it is bad to have a low score, and that really has started a dialog, and the most positive responses that we have gotten from the media certainly have been in those states with the low scores about how they can do better. One state that was not at the bottom, was in the middle but actually passed a bill this year--Maryland, that specifically addressed an issue that we had identified in those states. So it is a way of making building codes understandable to people so again they begin to demand that they want to be-- we would say ideally in a state, we support statewide mandatory building codes. It is much easier for enforcement. It is much more consistent. But there are some states where that hasn't happened, and Texas certainly is one of them. At a minimum at the local level there ought to be strong ordinances in effect. Ms. Johnson. Any other witness comments? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back. Chairman Bucshon. Thank you. I now recognize Mr. Lipinski for five minutes. Mr. Lipinski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In his testimony, Dr. Kiesling calls for economic, social and behavioral studies to understand implementation of research results like stronger building codes. I think this is something very important that we have to use the lessons from social science to ensure that the other lessons that we are learning from research get implemented. Can Dr. Kiesling and other witnesses expand upon that and where exactly they see the importance? Dr. Kiesling. I think implementation is a serious problem in many areas. I would back up a little bit and say that in terms of improved building codes, we can do a lot of good by simply meeting existing building codes that are not, say, effectively enforced or inspected, but if we increased the design wind load only a small amount, we would save a lot of property because even in a tornado, most of the damage is done at wind speeds, say, in the 100- to 125-mile-per-hour wind, and if we design for a little bit more than we do, 90- or 100-per- hour winds, that would save a lot of the structures that are currently being destroyed. I don't know what the answers are to implementation but I see it as a serious, serious problem, not only in enforcing building codes but it haunts me that I hear reports of traffic deaths in our city, and in many instances people were killed in rollover accidents without wearing their seat belts so they are sitting on property they already own that can be very effective in saving lives, and so it should not surprise us, I think, that we have problems in enforcing building codes and motivating people to do a better job of construction. I don't know the answers but I think we need to involve maybe social sciences and disciplines that we have not effectively engaged before to see how do we implement what we already know, but there is much more to be learned. I don't say we have all the answers. We need to learn much more but we also need to do a better job of using what we already have. Ms. Ballen. We are hoping actually to gather social scientists at our research center this December so that we can really begin to explore that in more detail. To the extent we have sort of sketched out the way we think about this issue, we think it is first a question of getting the hearts and minds of people, getting them to really sort of want this, and we talked about that a little bit before in terms of one of the answers to the previous questions. The second is providing the adequate incentives. That is for both individuals and for states. An example of how that might work at the state level is the Safe Building Code Incentive Act that also has been introduced in this Congress. It provides additional funding for States that do the right thing in terms of enacting strong building codes. That is a financial incentive. There could be other incentives for individuals. And finally, understanding the politics of this. We talked about the builders. You know, we have to make this a win-win proposition and make the market really want this to happen for us to sort of address those social-science issues. Dr. Prevatt. I might add that NOAA and the NSF, National Science Foundation, last year, they operated, or they organized a pretty comprehensive workshop called Weather Ready Nation in which they brought together the physical scientists and engineers with the social scientists to actually discuss the issues of weather, you know, acknowledging that yes, forecasting has got us so far, and yes, we are better at it but the property damage. So the move has been started. There is a report which if you would like I can provide that link to you in which we are now working with social scientists. I was on a rapid NSF project in Moore, Oklahoma, and we did involve Mississippi State social scientists and social scientists from the University of Alabama as well as ourselves, engineers in other universities. Mr. Lipinski. Thank you. I would like to take a look at that. I think it is something that we oftentimes overlook I think in legislation here. We should make sure that in NWIRP we include social sciences because you can do all the research that you want to know how to mitigate damage to property, threats to human life if no one is implementing those and we don't know, as Ms. Ballen said, we are not sure about the incentives of how to get people to actually take that into account. Then we just have research sitting on a shelf that is not doing anyone any good, so I think that is something important that we have to make sure that we are considering here in providing at the Federal level. I yield back. Thank you. Chairman Bucshon. Thank you. I now recognize Ms. Esty for five minutes. Ms. Esty. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As a quick follow-up to Mr. Lipinski's discussion for Ms. Ballen, in looking at incentives, is the insurance industry offering lower premiums to those who have retrofitted or, say, hurricane ties and what sort of incentives is the marketplace providing? Because we know, for example, the tax credits do not seem to be terribly effective right now, so I am wondering what is being done on the private side. Ms. Ballen. I always do stress that individual companies make their own decisions, but that said, IBHS developed a code plus standard called Fortified. We know that those technical standards work and the program includes an inspection and designation process so that we know that the homes that were built to those standards, supposedly built to those standards, really are built to those standards. Many individual companies are providing discounts for Fortified homes, and that has also been required in rate filings in some states, but it is not enough to say ``oh, if a homeowner says or a builder says that they have built to that standard, it is.''It has got to be inspected, it has got to be verified. Ms. Esty. Thank you, and a further follow-up. Living in Connecticut where we experienced a number of storms over the last few years, we have great concern about resilience about the life lines, utilities, infrastructure. So if any of the three of you can talk a little bit about what is being done on the research side, on these critical issues where you can't have rebuilding, you can't have--you can't even get access to people. You can't get them back on line, and what we ought to be looking at in that department. Dr. Prevatt. I think that is the entire direction of the Engineering School of Sustainable Infrastructure and Environment at the University of Florida. That is our entire mission. It is in several universities, resilience and sustainability, the hallmarks of what we are doing in civil engineering. Before we get to a sustainable society, we first of all have to get a resilient one, one that is more robust, and the research sometimes is fundamental to this. We do need to better understand the loads. We do need to better understand the structural properties of the buildings, the infrastructure, the utilities, what have you, but, you know, I think we really just need to decide, we really do need just to decide that we want to live in a sustainable society, and we can do it. Yes, it will cost some money, it will cost some time, but I guarantee if you put engineers and scientists, social scientists as well, on this case, we can do this in ten years. It takes, you know, just that bold vision to go after it. Ms. Esty. Well, I know some of the work, say, that Frances Cairncross has done looking at multiple ways to address climate-change issues and particularly with our populations being increasingly concentrated on the coasts. We are seeing-- whatever it is attributable to, we are certainly seeing an increase in more severe weather. So I think it is going to be extremely important that we take this resilience line of research quite seriously and address it as an extremely high priority as we are extremely energy-dependent for everything that we do. If we do not harden our systems, we have been looking at cybersecurity but we also just need to look at natural weather ability to bring down whole cities, and I am quite concern that we not forget how critical that is. Just look what happened in Staten Island, look what happened in New York, and we do need to be emphasizing retrofitting, not just new standards, but what are we going to do with major cities that need to be retrofitted for the utilities. Thanks very much. I yield back the balance of my time. Chairman Bucshon. Thank you. I now ask unanimous consent to recognize a member of the full Committee for questioning. If there is no objection then, the Chair now recognizes Mr. Neugebauer for five minutes. Mr. Neugebauer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I would also like to return the favor and yield a little of my time to Mr. Schweikert from Arizona. Mr. Schweikert. Thank you. I didn't know if I should object there and then I could yield. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is Ms. Ballen? Ms. Ballen. Ballen. Mr. Schweikert. Ballen. Actually, Elizabeth was hitting a point that I wanted to go to. We all live in a world where how many of us right now will go out and buy a Volvo over a, is it a Corvair? Any of us that are old enough to remember a Corvair, you know, unsafe at any speed. But the fact of the matter is, when you are buying a car today, aren't we also looking at the Consumer Reports and saying hey, this is safe, my insurance is cheaper. There is a price differential there driven by the insurance industry that actually changes our purchasing behavior. Why isn't that also the decision for those who are purchasing residential real estate is our price differential and our cost of insurance? Ms. Ballen. That is an excellent question and one we ask ourselves every single day. Our peer organization is the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, and they showed the way, how research and communications lead to safer cars and people wanting them, and then you have enough people with these cars that you really begin to see the difference in the losses, and insurance companies respond to that. Mr. Schweikert. But, you know, I understand for public buildings and schools and those things, particularly those with some Federal resources in them, we have a voice there. But if I am out buying a residential property or getting ready to refit or remodel and I--how many of us have bought a house and we will fixate on small margins on the interest rate between one lender and another? But if there is actual price differentials understood in the market between I did these types of tie-downs on my roof and this house doesn't have these sorts of tie-downs so I am going to pay this sort of premium, isn't that the ultimate solution here? Ms. Ballen. That is the ultimate solution. The market is the ultimate solution. It would be benefited by the kind of research that we are talking about but ultimately people need to want that. Now, I think the impediments are---- Mr. Schweikert. Well, the work is on incentives and disincentives, so they want it; they just need to understand there is a price difference. Ms. Ballen. They need to understand that, yes, and the building industry is much more complicated than the automobile industry. There are thousands of builders out there versus, you know, five or six or seven car companies. The guys that do it are every roofer, you know---- Mr. Schweikert. Well, and only because my undergrad is in real estate and my master's focus was in financing, the real estate world is the life I grew up in. It is not the builders, it is the consumer. And if you told me--if I came to you right now and said hey, you buy this house because of the attributes, you pay this interest rate, but if I bought this one I would pay this interest rate, we all scream and go running to this one. Why is it not the same in insurance? And Mr. Chairman, I would like to yield to Mr. Neugebauer because I know he had a little bit more on this. Ms. Ballen. Okay. Mr. Neugebauer. I thank the gentleman. Dr. Kiesling, you know, one of the things that you mentioned a while ago is that the winds of a tornado are much different than a gust, vertical wind. So there are different categories of events, all the way from, I guess, an F-0 to F-5 so there is probably--at this particular point in time the F-5 is just, we don't have the technology, you know, on an economic basis to protect a home from an F-5 storm probably. So then if we go just to the mitigation of life over property saying the house doesn't make it, but there are things that you have done, worked on of various degrees that are fairly affordable inside that home of fortification. Could you just kind of cover a little bit of what are some practical things that could be done in the homes both retrofit and new construction? Dr. Kiesling. Well, thank you for asking. I think from early on we more or less adopted the approach that it is very expensive to take a home of the type that we build today and design it to resist the worst-case tornado. You can certainly improve the performance and protect against severe damage from the vast majority of even tornados because, as I said before, the damage is caused by marginal wind speeds, but we adopted the idea or the philosophy of providing occupant protection in a small room, now called a safe room, because it is very affordable to harden and stiffen a small room of a house to provide near-absolute occupant protection. That might be a closet, a pantry, a bathroom, and that is practical for new construction, but the vast majority of safe rooms being installed today are manufactured. They are steel boxes, concrete boxes, timber boxes installed in a garage, on the slab of a garage, and they are very affordable. There even those shelters that are mounted under the slab. You can go in the garage, cut out a section of a piece of the garage floor, excavate, put a shelter under there and put a sliding door on it so you provide protection without even losing a parking space. There are many, many options available today, and I would say for almost every situation or circumstances, it is possible to design occupant protection from the worst-case tornado, and we have a real problem with that right now with public perception because there was so much bad publicity, misinformation in Oklahoma about having to be underground to survive an EF-5. That is simply a falsehood that should be squelched. But in answer to your question, I think there is a way to protect life in a safe room very inexpensively, and I think we must do the best we can in reducing the damage by improving the buildings through building-code enforcement. One other point that I would make that is different in the automobile industry and in the home-building industry, both are sensitive to initial cost but most of the houses are built speculative today, and as you well know, the marketability of housing is very, very sensitive to the initial cost, and not only builders but I think homeowners too look at that initial cost and resist any improvement that costs very much initially. Chairman Bucshon. Thank you very much. At this point, I would like to thank the witnesses for their testimony and the Members for their questions. The Members of the Committee may have additional questions for you, and we will ask that you respond to those in writing. The record will remain open for two weeks for additional comments and written questions from the Members. At this point the witnesses are excused. The hearing is adjourned. [Whereupon, at 11:17 a.m., the Subcommittees were adjourned.] Appendix I ---------- Answers to Post-Hearing Questions Answers to Post-Hearing Questions Responses by Dr. Ernst Kiesling [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] Responses by Ms. Debra Ballen [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] Responses by Dr. David Prevatt [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] Appendix II ---------- Additional Material for the Record Submitted statement by Representative Daniel Lipinski, Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Research, Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, U.S. House of Representatives Thank you, Chairman Bucshon and Chairman Massie for holding today's hearing to examine federal efforts to reduce the impacts of windstorms. This is an incredibly important topic. Every year, severe winds from hurricanes, tornadoes, and thunderstorms damage or destroy thousands of homes and businesses, harm vital infrastructure, and, most importantly, threaten human life. An average of 74 Americans have died in tornadoes each year since 1983. My prayers go out to those in Moore, Oklahoma as well as those outside of Oklahoma City, who are currently dealing with this loss. We also cannot forget the more than 1,000 people who lost their lives in Hurricane Katrina. The extent of property damage and economic losses from windstorms vary widely, but since 2010, economic costs are well over a $100 billion dollars.The National Windstorm Impact Reduction Program or N- WIRP has the potential to lessen the loss of life and economic damage by translating research and development on the understanding of windstorms and their impacts into improved building codes and emergency planning. In order for these efforts to be effective they cannot leave out the most critical component--people. Understanding how people--such as state and local officials, business owners, and individuals--make decisions and respond to storm warnings is essential to designing effective strategies to prepare for, respond to, and recover from a disaster. A recent survey by the National Center for Disaster Preparedness accurately highlights this need. The survey found that most Americans are unprepared for a major disaster and that they have a false sense of security about what will happen if a major disaster occurs. Specifically, more than half of the families surveyed had no emergency plan in place for a hurricane or earthquake, and those who had a plan lacked essential items to implement their plan like flashlights and extra batteries. Even more unsettling is that one third of the individuals surveyed believed that calling 911 after a major disaster would bring them help within an hour. This is in stark contrast to reality which shows that emergency responders are overwhelmed after major disasters and communities often have to take care of themselves for several days before help is able to arrive. I mention this because I think it is important to remember that we can perform all the engineering and natural science research we like, but in the grand scheme of things if we don't have a clear understanding of the human element in disaster mitigation, preparedness, and response then those efforts may be for not. We only have to look to Moore, Oklahoma for an example. Moore had been hit by an EF5 tornado--the most powerful category--before, back in May 1999. One of the myths about tornadoes is that they will not hit the same city more than once. So when individuals are debating spending the $2,500 to $5,000 on a shelter or the $4,000 to $12,000 on a safe room, they are doing so thinking that another tornado will not hit and therefore, the extra expense is probably unnecessary. In fact, of the 40 new homes constructed since that May 1999 storm, only six of them contained a safe room. Building disaster resilient communities will take an interdisciplinary approach and that approach must include social science research.